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Offline rabtab  
#1 Posted : 22 January 2026 20:35:30(UTC)
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Hi, I bought a small older Marklin engine, CM800/89005 at a train show. I was told it would not run, but I replaced the pickup shoe and broke free the stuck gears, oiled it up and it runs well now. One of the light bulbs in the front is blown out. This model has the two lights in front. Where can I find a parts list for this engine, or...what voltage is the light bulbs. I removed one and I cannot see any markings on it. Thanks!
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Online rhfil  
#2 Posted : 22 January 2026 21:26:31(UTC)
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You can determine the voltage with a multimeter. Just set it on a powered track and probe the socket. The ground might be the side of the socket and the power would be at the bottom. Bulbs are pretty standard and will work with any voltage but the correct one will provide the designed lighting level and fit the existing socket. Too much voltage and the bulb will still light up and very bright but then burn out. You might even have success taking a picture of it and posting it online.
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#3 Posted : 22 January 2026 22:51:50(UTC)
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Offline ccranium  
#4 Posted : 22 January 2026 23:21:43(UTC)
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In the 1971 catalog, the original Marklin part number for the bulb is "60010" but it can be found as "60 010" and "E60010" as well. There are a few listed on eBay in the US. They have a threaded base. By 1971 they'd added a 3rd headlight at the top, so hopefully your older version has threaded bases which can use this bulb.
I hope this helps.
Brian
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#5 Posted : 23 January 2026 00:21:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ccranium Go to Quoted Post
In the 1971 catalog, the original Marklin part number for the bulb is "60010" but it can be found as "60 010" and "E60010" as well. There are a few listed on eBay in the US. They have a threaded base. By 1971 they'd added a 3rd headlight at the top, so hopefully your older version has threaded bases which can use this bulb.
I hope this helps.
Brian


The cm800 has two bulbs that are not threaded. The later 3000 went to three lights with one threaded bulb illuminating them. In this case we are talking about the older cm800 with two bulbs.
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#6 Posted : 23 January 2026 01:11:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mvd71 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: ccranium Go to Quoted Post
In the 1971 catalog, the original Marklin part number for the bulb is "60010" but it can be found as "60 010" and "E60010" as well. There are a few listed on eBay in the US. They have a threaded base. By 1971 they'd added a 3rd headlight at the top, so hopefully your older version has threaded bases which can use this bulb.
I hope this helps.
Brian


The cm800 has two bulbs that are not threaded. The later 3000 went to three lights with one threaded bulb illuminating them. In this case we are talking about the older cm800 with two bulbs.


In which case the bulb part number to search for is E600000.
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Offline ccranium  
#7 Posted : 23 January 2026 01:46:34(UTC)
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The cm800 has two bulbs that are not threaded. The later 3000 went to three lights with one threaded bulb illuminating them. In this case we are talking about the older cm800 with two bulbs.


Thank you, Alan; the earlier catalogs don't list bulb part numbers for each lok. When the CM800 appears in the 1953 catalog, 3 lamps are listed for all products but without their usages like loks or turnouts: the "485" with bayonet fitting, and the 495 and 499 with threads.

MVD71, I don't own a CM800. How is the bulb retained in the lok? Even though they describe them as a bayonet mount, they look like they are the midget flanged base like the 60000 used in the turnouts.

Brian
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Offline cookee_nz  
#8 Posted : 23 January 2026 08:51:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mvd71 Go to Quoted Post
The cm800 has two bulbs that are not threaded. The later 3000 went to three lights with one threaded bulb illuminating them. In this case we are talking about the older cm800 with two bulbs.


Thank you, Alan; the earlier catalogs don't list bulb part numbers for each lok. When the CM800 appears in the 1953 catalog, 3 lamps are listed for all products but without their usages like loks or turnouts: the "485" with bayonet fitting, and the 495 and 499 with threads.

MVD71, I don't own a CM800. How is the bulb retained in the lok? Even though they describe them as a bayonet mount, they look like they are the midget flanged base like the 60000 used in the turnouts.

Brian


In the CM800, the flange type bulbs are held by a curved molding each side on the chassis, and prevented from moving out or upward by the plastic body once it's installed.

https://www.marklin-user...mc/partsinfo/CM800-1.jpg

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Offline cookee_nz  
#9 Posted : 23 January 2026 08:53:41(UTC)
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From experience, I'd suggest replacing both lamps at the same time, otherwise you run a risk of them being slightly different brightness from each other, enough that the eye can pick up and once you see it, well OCD types will go nuts. Also, you can get them as LED's, which some like for their longer life and lower consumption.
How the LED's would tolerate a particularly strong reversing pulse I cannot say, most of my CM800 / 3000's only run in one direction. Smile

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