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Offline GRL1849  
#1 Posted : 05 January 2026 00:20:53(UTC)
GRL1849

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I have tried to get the CS3 web server to work on my PC – wirelessly.

But I don't know what I'm doing wrong. It worked 14 days ago – now it has suddenly stopped working.

This is the equipment I need to have working together:

The router in the house.
PC (with wireless internet connection via the router in the house)
Märklin CS3
A TP-Link nano router, which is physically connected to the CS3 (network cable + power)

I have previously – with enormous difficulty (took me two days) – set up the nano router to "talk" to the house router, so that the CS3 works (or should work) as a device with its own wifi (as I understand it). After that, I should "just" be able to enter the CS3's IP address (192.168.0.131) into the browser, after which the CS3 screen should appear in the browser. The problem is that it doesn't…

I don't know if I should start from scratch setting up the TP-Link nano for the house router, or if I can troubleshoot the existing one.

I have absolutely no idea what IP, DNS, DHCP, TTL, HOST, PROXY etc. are, how they work together, or why. I just need to know exactly WHAT to do, know exactly WHICH numbers (IP addresses) I need to use, and exactly WHERE to write them.

In another forum I specifically asked for these things to be explained – instead I got 3 writers' 2-page descriptions of how computers, IP addresses, wifi, routers etc. work – but I wasn't any closer to solving the problem. It was like asking what 2 + 2 is – and instead of getting the short answer (= 4), I got an explanation about the origin of the number system in India in the 6th century. Educational, maybe. Helpful, not at all...
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Offline rhfil  
#2 Posted : 05 January 2026 00:41:16(UTC)
rhfil

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First of all you need to ensure that the TP-Link router is properly installed. The ethernet cable from the CS3 needs to not go into the yellow socket but one of the black ones. The house router needs to be completely out of the picture. Your TP-Link is acting will act as a wireliess link to the house router if your ethernet cable from the CS3 is connected to the yellow socket. If you finally manage to get the TP-Link as a wifi broadcaster its address should show up in the list of available wifi connections on your pc. You need to select it. Then you need to enter the ip address of the CS3 into the browser of your pc. You can find the ip address in the systems tab of your CS3. It should be something like 192.168.X.Y where X and Y are something like 1 & 3.
TP-Link has a web site where you can configure it.
Unfortunately the answer is not as simple as 4. You need to read manuals and understand the terms such as ip address. It is like many years ago trying to tune up a car and not knowing what a gap was. Or a carburetor. Having someone show you worked then but how to do that through a chat room?
I just looked at my TP-Link and the female sockets to use it as a wifi broadcaster are orange and there are four of them. The socket to use it to connect to the internet is dark blue. I happen to have a hard wire to my house router which I would plug into the ehternet socket on my CS3 when there was an update available and for some now unknown reason I plugged it into the dark blue socket so now I no longer have to change the plug when there is an update. But I don't know why it works.
Offline kiwiAlan  
#3 Posted : 05 January 2026 01:21:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rhfil Go to Quoted Post
Your TP-Link is acting will act as a wireliess link to the house router if your ethernet cable from the CS3 is connected to the yellow socket.


That is exactly what he wants, the cs3 to talk wirelessly to the house router.

I am not familiar with the TP-Link nano, but I have a similar style of link for my PVR, so that I can connect it to the house router to do internet connections without having to run a long cable up the stairs where it would get in everyones way.

I use one of these to provide the wireless link to the house router. To set it up I first looked at the wifi settings of my laptop, and noted down the values of the four fields given above. Then I turned off the wifi on the laptop, and used an ethernet cable to connect to the Vonets device. I can't remember the exact sequence (the instructions for the device will tell you) but I opened a web page on the device and entered the appropriate values in the four fields, and saved them - except I used a different address to the laptop by altering the last digit set of the IP address, so where the laptop had 192.168.0.30, I set the Vonets up to 192.168.0.100 so it was well out of the range of the DHCP addresses. Once that was stored I then moved the Vonets to to the PVR, connected to the ethernet port, and allowed the PVR to access the wifi, and to get an address using DHCP.

Now, you haven't mentioned what model of TP-Link nano you have, so I cannot check if it is designed to work in the manner you want, so maybe you could tell us that bit of info first. When I go looking there are a whole heap of different models for different purposes listed under TP-Link nano.

Offline rhfil  
#4 Posted : 05 January 2026 01:42:29(UTC)
rhfil

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It depends on what he means by "web server". If he wants to control his layout and trains with a pc like we can do with a smart phone or pad then he needs to follow my instructions. So he needs to explain what exactly he is trying to achieve.
Offline kiwiAlan  
#5 Posted : 05 January 2026 02:17:12(UTC)
kiwiAlan

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Originally Posted by: rhfil Go to Quoted Post
It depends on what he means by "web server". If he wants to control his layout and trains with a pc like we can do with a smart phone or pad then he needs to follow my instructions. So he needs to explain what exactly he is trying to achieve.


He is attempting to access the web page on the cs3 from his PC. That is a perfectly legitimate way to have a PC talk to a cs2 or cs3. The web page then shows what is on the cs screen.

Online bph  
#6 Posted : 05 January 2026 10:55:33(UTC)
bph

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Originally Posted by: GRL1849 Go to Quoted Post
I have tried to get the CS3 web server to work on my PC – wirelessly.

But I don't know what I'm doing wrong. It worked 14 days ago – now it has suddenly stopped working.

This is the equipment I need to have working together:

The router in the house.
PC (with wireless internet connection via the router in the house)
Märklin CS3
A TP-Link nano router, which is physically connected to the CS3 (network cable + power)

I have previously – with enormous difficulty (took me two days) – set up the nano router to "talk" to the house router, so that the CS3 works (or should work) as a device with its own wifi (as I understand it). After that, I should "just" be able to enter the CS3's IP address (192.168.0.131) into the browser, after which the CS3 screen should appear in the browser. The problem is that it doesn't…

I don't know if I should start from scratch setting up the TP-Link nano for the house router, or if I can troubleshoot the existing one.

I have absolutely no idea what IP, DNS, DHCP, TTL, HOST, PROXY etc. are, how they work together, or why. I just need to know exactly WHAT to do, know exactly WHICH numbers (IP addresses) I need to use, and exactly WHERE to write them.

In another forum I specifically asked for these things to be explained – instead I got 3 writers' 2-page descriptions of how computers, IP addresses, wifi, routers etc. work – but I wasn't any closer to solving the problem. It was like asking what 2 + 2 is – and instead of getting the short answer (= 4), I got an explanation about the origin of the number system in India in the 6th century. Educational, maybe. Helpful, not at all...


Hi

Have you put your TP-Link nano router into client mode ? (and your cs3 needs to be powered on after the nano router has made a connection to your main router.)
And then your PC and cs3 must be on the same router.

An alternative to a wifi link, is a pure power line adapter. eg: https://www.tp-link.com/en/home-networking/powerline/tl-pa8010p-kit/ (that what I use for my CS3)

(This is primarly network issue, and getting a basic understanding of how a home network works is highly recommended)

Offline rhfil  
#7 Posted : 05 January 2026 15:00:26(UTC)
rhfil

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If you are trying to use the pc as a mirror of the CS3 with all of its features and you did that successfully fourteen days ago then you should be able to do it again unless you changed something like the connections. As stated above the TP-Link needs to be turned on and working before the CS3 The sequence might be important and I am not certain of the sequence for the pc. But definitely the TP before the CS3. And then launch RealVNC on the PC. Hopefully you have the free version of that through Marklin otherwise it is possible your free 30 day offer expired. Then you would need to delete it from your pc.
Offline GRL1849  
#8 Posted : 05 January 2026 21:29:21(UTC)
GRL1849

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Location: Hovedstaden, Copenhagen
TP-link is properly installed. Took me two days to make the pesky thing to work. It was put in client mode. And it did work with CS3 on the PC screen and everything – 2 weeks ago. Now nothings works. The TP-Link is a TP-WR802N Nano Router. To my knowledge it works on numerous other computers here in Denmark.

The IP address in the CS3 is 192.168.0.131.
The IP address in the PC’s network is 192.168.0.120.

With the TP-link mounted in the CS3, with net cable and power supply, light in the TP-link, I enter 192.168.0.131 in the PC’s browser. I get the following error:

“Cannot connect to this website
192.168.0.131 took too long to respond.”
(directly translated from Danish)

I have then tried to connect the net cable between the CS3 and the PC (i.e. going from wireless to wired), and enter the ip address – same result…

I have also tried with my cell phone to can the QR code on the CS3 – get the error that the page can’t be reached.

I am on the brink on concluding that the settings and hardware are as they should be, but it simply doesn’t work in my case.
Offline rhfil  
#9 Posted : 05 January 2026 22:44:09(UTC)
rhfil

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I am not sure but it is possible that your device is only a repeater/extender. It picks up a signal from the house router and re-transmits/boosts it. You might want to check with TP-Link customer service to see if that is the case. My TP-Link router has antennas and lots more sockets. And it works. I just checked out the manual and it is might be possible to set up the router the way you want but you probably have to reset it to factory setting and then follow the instructions for resetting it. But I don't know which instructions you need to follow.
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Offline GRL1849  
#10 Posted : 05 January 2026 22:56:02(UTC)
GRL1849

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I have now reset and reinstalled the TP-Link some +10 times. The CS3 screen can't be shown on the PC, as the PC can't "find" the TP-link. Tried with a cable between CS3 and the network router. Works fine on the PC - but train layout and network router are 50 feet apart - I don't want to pull a long power wire fron the CS3 to the rails!

Conclusion: The TP-Link is a piece of sh*t, and it will be discarded - as far as I can throw it.
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#11 Posted : 05 January 2026 23:03:23(UTC)
kiwiAlan

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Originally Posted by: rhfil Go to Quoted Post
I am not sure but it is possible that your device is only a repeater/extender. It picks up a signal from the house router and re-transmits/boosts it. You might want to check with TP-Link customer service to see if that is the case. ...


It does list "Client Mode" under the specifications here. On that basis I would have thought it would do bridging to the router.


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Offline GRL1849  
#12 Posted : 05 January 2026 23:14:05(UTC)
GRL1849

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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: rhfil Go to Quoted Post
I am not sure but it is possible that your device is only a repeater/extender. It picks up a signal from the house router and re-transmits/boosts it. You might want to check with TP-Link customer service to see if that is the case. ...


It does list "Client Mode" under the specifications here. On that basis I would have thought it would do bridging to the router.




Well, it doesn't. It is just a small box with a green light - no other function....Angry
Offline rhfil  
#13 Posted : 05 January 2026 23:15:45(UTC)
rhfil

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"It does list "Client Mode" under the specifications here. On that basis I would have thought it would do bridging to the router." Yes, I saw that but is it assuming the house router has wifi input? I am sure mine has. It was provided by Xfinity and I am fairly sure it is hardwired to the internet while transmitting and receiving wifi signals.
Typical that he does not answer any of our questions. Is the RealVNC app on his pc? What is he trying to use the pc for? If the TP-Link is connected and acting properly he should be able to connect via smart phone but that also requires a smart human.
Offline GRL1849  
#14 Posted : 05 January 2026 23:16:25(UTC)
GRL1849

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So... does anyone know how I connect the PC and the CS3 with an ethernet cable? Apparently I need to set up some IP-addresses, subnet, Router and DNS in the CS3. What to do?
Offline RudiC  
#15 Posted : 05 January 2026 23:54:32(UTC)
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We need some more information to help. How about a little sketch of your setup? From what I understand, it looks like


PC
|
| wireless
|
router
|
| wireless
|
TP-link
|
| wired
|
CS3


Depending of your subnet mask, 192.168.0.131 and 192.168.0.120 may not be in the same subnet and thus unreachable.

Does your PC (e.g. "ping" ing or in your browser) "see" the router? The TP-Link?
What's the router's IP? The TP-link's IP?
If admininstering the router, you might see the entire network setup. Do TP-link and CS3 show up?
Regards,
Rüdiger (Rudi)
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#16 Posted : 05 January 2026 23:56:16(UTC)
kiwiAlan

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Originally Posted by: GRL1849 Go to Quoted Post
So... does anyone know how I connect the PC and the CS3 with an ethernet cable? Apparently I need to set up some IP-addresses, subnet, Router and DNS in the CS3. What to do?


To do that you should be able to set the PC up as a router, and if you set the cs3 up in DHCP mode the PC should supply all the relevant information when the cs3 logs in.

I've never tried doing this with a PC, so you may need to resort to one of the AI minions to guide you through the process.
Offline rhfil  
#17 Posted : 06 January 2026 01:34:41(UTC)
rhfil

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You can obviously connect a CS3 to a pc with an ethernet cable but I think they can not communicate together. Otherwise there would be simple instructions on how to do it. I think the first thing he should do is figure out how to set up his TP-Link as a router and connect to it with a smart phone or pad. Once he does that and has learned about passwords and ips he can then try to do the same with RealVNC. The wiring is simple - ethernet socket to ethernet socket. Turn on the router before the CS3. Find the network with a smart phone and enter the password. Then find the QR code on the CS3 and "photograph" it with your phone. Or enter it into your browser. Once he has successfully done that he might be ready for the more complicated setup but the smart phone needs to be operated by a smart human.
Offline Goofy  
#18 Posted : 06 January 2026 10:42:11(UTC)
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Did you checked after PC computer stand in DHCP?
I use cable network and my router are not wireless.
If you buy a new router by use power connect and cable network you have more safety internet connection.
Also always have firewalls in the router too.
H0
DCC = Digital Command Control
Offline GRL1849  
#19 Posted : 06 January 2026 11:13:42(UTC)
GRL1849

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Location: Hovedstaden, Copenhagen
Originally Posted by: RudiC Go to Quoted Post
We need some more information to help. How about a little sketch of your setup? From what I understand, it looks like


PC
|
| wireless
|
router
|
| wireless
|
TP-link
|
| wired
|
CS3


Depending of your subnet mask, 192.168.0.131 and 192.168.0.120 may not be in the same subnet and thus unreachable.

Does your PC (e.g. "ping" ing or in your browser) "see" the router? The TP-Link?
What's the router's IP? The TP-link's IP?
If admininstering the router, you might see the entire network setup. Do TP-link and CS3 show up?


Yes, the sketch is correct. What is subnet mask?? Reading the instructions about how to get the CS3 wireless through the TP-Link doesn't mention "subnet mask". Needless to say, I am not into computer language, so assume that I need everything and every move described carefully!

Router's IP is 192.168.0.120
TP-Link's was 192.168.0.1
CS3 is 192.168.0.131

The TP-Link never showed up anywhere - it had light, it was setup in client mode (around 15 times), it seemed ok. But was unaccessible. Couldn't be accessed via the QR code in the CS3 or via browser on PC.
Offline GRL1849  
#20 Posted : 06 January 2026 11:25:29(UTC)
GRL1849

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So, I have now learned that the TP-Link TL-W802N didn't work. I have ordered another, and will give it a last shot.

I have also learned, that it is not possible to "just" connect the PC and CS3 with an ethernet cable (or any other cable); instead the CS3 has to be wired to the router. But the router and the model layout are situated in each end of the house. Placing the CS3 with the router will require a 50 feet power cable to the tracks - or the CS3 needs a 50 feet ethernet cable through the house to reach the router. Kinda goes against the "wireless" idea...

I know dozens who have made the setup with the TP-Link and made it work in less than 15 minutes. But in my case, it just won't work...

I admit that I am not an internet/tech guy, who understands all the technical terms, but I can follow a well written instruction meticulously. When it still doesn't work, well, what to do then... I am not able to troubleshoot in a field that I am not used to operate in Confused
Online jonas_sthlm  
#21 Posted : 06 January 2026 12:16:38(UTC)
jonas_sthlm

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I’m not sure if this will help you.


PC (IP from DHCP) with TC
|
| wired or wireless
|
Wi-Fi router RT-AX58U (IP 192.168.50.1)
|
| wireless
|
TP-link TL-MR3020 as Client Mode (Gets a static IP 192.168.50.2 number by MAC address from the Wi-Fi router)
|
| wired
|
CS3+ (Assign a static IP of 192.168.50.170 based on the MAC address, but since the TP-Link bridges to the Wi-Fi router, the MAC address differs 9E:53:22:XX:XX:XX from the one in the CS3 Ethernet settings)

My MSW and Piko measuring wagon connect directly over Wifi Router and also get static IP by MAC address from DHCP.
Collecting Swedish items since the 80s / CS3+ / MSW / 60175 Booster / 60881 S88 AC / TC10 Gold / K, C-Tracks / Favorites Class Ra / modelltag.se - Forum modelltag.se - Facebook modelltag.se - YouTube
Offline Goofy  
#22 Posted : 06 January 2026 13:45:36(UTC)
Goofy


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Posts: 9,372
When I use CS3 this is how I connect up:

Router...Imac
Router...CS3
Both Imac and CS3 does have network cables connect.
When I turn power on the CS3 the communication starts between router and CS3.
H0
DCC = Digital Command Control
Offline kiwiAlan  
#23 Posted : 07 January 2026 01:07:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GRL1849 Go to Quoted Post
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Yes, the sketch is correct. What is subnet mask??


The subnet mask defines what in networking palance is termed a village.

When using 192.168.0.xxx addresses the subnet mask should be 192.168.0.255.
This allows your device to communicate directly to any other device in the 192.168.0.xxx village. If it wants to talk to a device outside that village then it has to use the device with the address in the "Default Route" field to redirect the message to the appropriate device.
Offline rhfil  
#24 Posted : 07 January 2026 01:38:39(UTC)
rhfil

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Amazing. I have a TP-Link model Archer C54 AC1200 dual band Wi-Fi router - $29.00 at Walmart. I had trouble setting it up but used their web site to figure it out. I have used it to access my CS3 via web browsing and twice with a pc to mirror the CS3. Our club for some unknown reason buried in its past always connected a router to our CS3 even though no one currently seemed to know why or how to access it. So I brought an iPad to one show, connected to the router and would use it to operate whistles, bells and horns on the locomotives that had them functioning when near visitors. I had a ball. I also helped other club members connect their smart phones to the club CS3. It is not complicated. But you need to go through the learning process at each stage. For example there were a number of times when I could not connect but learned that plugging the ethernet cable into the wrong plug on the router would prevent a connection as would turning on the router after the CS3. I also learned that mirroring the CS3 on a pc was possible but required going through a very specific set of steps. My house router is on a different floor from the CS3 though directly below it. I was able to connect my CS3 to it via a long ethernet cable because there was already a tv cable between the two but I only use it for CS3 updates. The web browser and pc mirror were both via wifi. I did not care for the RealVNC mirror as I primarily just experiment with evens and feedback mechanisms and my pc screens are not much larger than my CS3 screen. And I prefer having the additional controls provided by a web browser.
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