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Online EB421  
#51 Posted : 08 December 2025 15:02:29(UTC)
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CLACKS550 R2 fork

Here's an example showing a CLACK550 module with a fork, with the new 15mm margin. Technically the straight is out of spec as it's 0.1mm short of flush. I'm optimistic it will work in practice as even the CLACK300 module has a longer overhang.
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#52 Posted : 09 December 2025 12:34:36(UTC)
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My 24236+24064 have arrived for the first modules. No one has demurred so the ayes have it. Road cross-section is now 60*10, edge margin for both C-Track and road is now 15mm.
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#53 Posted : 09 December 2025 14:12:16(UTC)
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Side by side of the original concept CLACK300 and the final design.

And there - here's a side-by-side of the OG CLACK300 design and the final version. As I said, I'll be putting glue down now I have the "dual-mode" track here - so this will become the official standard for interconnects! :)
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#54 Posted : 16 December 2025 12:22:25(UTC)
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I put glue down! And my genius modular system... doesn't work.

The track connectors don't have enough flex in them to decouple without forcing the track off the boards - and I'm left very confused. I've been assuming this would work based on the existence of the C-TRAK standard which must be able to decouple in order to have existed for - but based on this, I have no idea how it could. What do the MSCD in the Netherlands know, which I don't?

Right now I'm somewhat frustrated, and I'm re-evaluating Unitrack for this; which is 2-rail only and has another annoying compromise on LACK boards (10mm -> 15mm -> 40mm) - but is designed from the start to be modular, and also meets the "readily available worldwide" clause. Mainly - it disconnects the same way it connects, so there's no issue with it pulling the track off the board.

Edit: The obvious question is. "Is anybody else seriously invested in this"?

If not, then just scrapping CLACK in favour of a 2-rail-only Unitrack based design (LUCK) would be the simplest option, and I can re-use all my 3-rail C-Track for playing with Tri-ang stock that doesn't work on TRIX/KATO Code 83.
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#55 Posted : 16 December 2025 19:37:07(UTC)
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Call me old-fashioned, but I would heed this 1956 advice regarding track connection.
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Source: "101 Track Plans for Model Railroaders" by Linn H. Westcott
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#56 Posted : 16 December 2025 20:52:57(UTC)
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Call me old-fashioned, but I would heed this 1956 advice regarding track connection.

Source: "101 Track Plans for Model Railroaders" by Linn H. Westcott


Sadly doesn't solve the problem, as now disconnecting the short-piece pulls the track up; instead of disconnecting the next board.
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#57 Posted : 16 December 2025 21:06:11(UTC)
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I am no expert on model railway modules, but it looks to me that the two rail guys cut their track where it crosses the edge of a module and electrically connect the tracks by connecting wires under the module. A Dremel would make short work of C-track - I used this approach on Nevw's layout for him many years ago.
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#58 Posted : 16 December 2025 21:47:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: xxup Go to Quoted Post
I am no expert on model railway modules, but it looks to me that the two rail guys cut their track where it crosses the edge of a module and electrically connect the tracks by connecting wires under the module. A Dremel would make short work of C-track - I used this approach on Nevw's layout for him many years ago.


Again, that works - but if you're cutting the track and using traditional module joints - there's no value in C-Track. Just use Peco Code 83 and it'll be cheaper and prettier. Or; K-Track. Prettier; I don't know what K-Track pricing looks like. It also makes using IKEA shelves pointless - if you have to drill into the shelves and add alignment dowels and locking clamps - suddenly this is worse than just building a custom baseboard from laser cut parts!

The point of the idea was that it took no skill or effort, and no complexity to use. You just put it on a table, smoosh it together, and put trains on it.

I am really confused by the C-TRAK system being able to pull this off! Laugh I've emailed them to find out their secrets.

So far, no-one's claimed to be invested... can I take this as "EB421 is the only person who went out and bought shelves"? ;)
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#59 Posted : 16 December 2025 22:41:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: EB421 Go to Quoted Post

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It also makes using IKEA shelves pointless - if you have to drill into the shelves and add alignment dowels and locking clamps - suddenly this is worse than just building a custom baseboard from laser cut parts!


Believe me, if you are fixing the track down you will need to dowel between modules. The MRR club I go to uses ones like these between modules to ensure minimal misalignment.

The only way to not use dowels is to not fix the track down, but relay it each time you put the modules up.

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#60 Posted : 16 December 2025 23:28:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post

Believe me, if you are fixing the track down you will need to dowel between modules.

The only way to not use dowels is to not fix the track down, but relay it each time you put the modules up.



T-TRAK Module

So T-TRAK doesn't do this. It uses the Kato bedding-track to hold everything in position, and relies on a solid table to make sure individual modules don't experience unnecessary tension.

CLACK came about because I tried to do Hex-TRAK in H0, decided it was too much work machining modules that large; and then looked at T-TRAK and tried to find an equivalent solution that I could reuse the Marklin track pieces I'd bought to test the H0x-TRAK concept; while not needing to build baseboards from scratch or spend $60 a pop on kits for them; which is what they cost in the UK.

I liked the idea of being mixed 2/3 rail, but I work solely in 2-rail so if the system doesn't work with Marklin track - so be it!
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