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Offline Goofy  
#151 Posted : 09 March 2025 10:50:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Manual available online in PDF >38700 Shay<


Madness! Blink
No possible to change out motor by self.
Lubricate all wheels and axles!
Be sure that no oil leaks out too much!
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Offline Normmeister  
#152 Posted : 10 March 2025 11:20:07(UTC)
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Marklin have already produced a Maus loco a while back to go with the Maus coaches, it was the 37012. Very similar to the newly announced 37111, also a BR110, graphics slightly different plus now has pantographs that can be remotely actuated.

Not very common, there is one 37012 currently on German Ebay, a ridiculous asking price of 810 Euros !

Crying

Fortunately I already have one. The Marklin coach set was 43969, I also got the Trix one, 23486, so I have a six coach Maus train.

Norm in Oz.
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#153 Posted : 10 March 2025 11:54:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Madness! Blink
No possible to change out motor by self.
Lubricate all wheels and axles!
Be sure that no oil leaks out too much!


Hopefully, that is only an error, and it will be available as a spare part, on the web page.

I'm interested in the locomotive, but since it is in cooperation with BLI I will hold back a bit and wait for some reviews/feedback before i make the final desition.
And if the motor is not available as a spare part, then I will have to think a bit harder....

Another interesting thing is that it seems to have only one axle with traction tires, but then all axles are powered by the cardan shaft, so it will be interesting to see how much it can actually pull.

The 360mm "restriction" notice in the manual is also disappointing, especially since they only write "Minimum radius for operation 360 mm" on the product page.
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#154 Posted : 10 March 2025 13:47:34(UTC)
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The 360mm "restriction" notice in the manual is also disappointing, especially since they only write "Minimum radius for operation 360 mm" on the product page.


Yes, I was envisioning running it on a set of M-Track industrial curves (5120?) as a separate line on a layout. I guess there are limitations in how rugged they can make the drive mechanism and still have sliding joints as the bogies turn.

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Offline mbarreto  
#155 Posted : 10 March 2025 15:37:06(UTC)
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Just speculating, but it maybe a more delicate locomotive than usual.
I will watch videos about it when they are in Youtube and after I will decide. I like the colors and shape of boiler more than I expected and looking at the cylinders side it is an interesting locomotive.
The use of the narrow Seuthe smoke generator is a minus for me.

Edited by user 10 March 2025 23:01:19(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Best regards,
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Offline H0  
#156 Posted : 10 March 2025 16:20:53(UTC)
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Just speculating, but it maybe a more delicate locomotive than usual.
It's not the first BLI model in a Märklin box, but we can assume it is more delicate than our trusted Märklin constructions.

Regards
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Offline marklinist5999  
#157 Posted : 10 March 2025 16:38:29(UTC)
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It's a unique model. For the price it should have included a smoke unit.
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#158 Posted : 10 March 2025 16:48:41(UTC)
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It's a unique model. For the price it should have included a smoke unit.
It comes with a pre-installed smoke unit.

Regards
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#159 Posted : 19 March 2025 17:43:42(UTC)
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Marklin has released a new teaser picture of the upcoming AC/DC locomotive
The design is finalised and the release date is set to April 10 2025 at 3 pm.
https://streaming.maerklin.de/inxmail/Newsletter/2025/acdc/mrzdortmund/maerklin-acdc-mrz25-dortmund-header.jpg

In this picture, it seems like they might have modified a flying Scotsman? or?
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#160 Posted : 20 March 2025 18:47:54(UTC)
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Marklin has released a new teaser picture of the upcoming AC/DC locomotive
The design is finalised and the release date is set to April 10 2025 at 3 pm.



Yeah, just in time for the Dortmund show.

The loco looks more like an American one to me, with that single headlight and cowcatcher.

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#161 Posted : 20 March 2025 21:12:24(UTC)
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...The loco looks more like an American one to me, with that single headlight and cowcatcher...


They do know that AC/DC is an Australian band. Do they? Crying

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#162 Posted : 20 March 2025 22:28:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
...The loco looks more like an American one to me, with that single headlight and cowcatcher...


They do know that AC/DC is an Australian band. Do they? Crying



had a second look at the picture and it looks like they have modified the Flying Scotsman. It also kind of makes some sense, since the Flying Scotsman has been to Australia.....

Imagine the 39968 with a cowcatcher, a new boiler end cap with light, a single chimney and a modified walkway etc to make it more similar to the AC/DC stage prop Rock 'N Roll Train.
Similarities: cylinders, forward-facing steam "blast pipes" below the cylinder, boiler handrails, part of the front frame, running gears etc
The_Flying_Rock_N_Roll_Train
https://static.maerklin.de/damcontent/a1/9c/a19c42ecd3e94783fbd3bbf27508bf781676530820.jpg
but I could also be wrong.....

perhaps it will be launched with some freight cars loaded with a hell bell and band equipment?
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Offline Sankch  
#163 Posted : 20 March 2025 23:11:01(UTC)
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I m thé only one to see à canadian pacific class?
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#164 Posted : 20 March 2025 23:30:29(UTC)
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had a second look at the picture and it looks like they have modified the Flying Scotsman. It also kind of makes some sense, since the Flying Scotsman has been to Australia.....

Imagine the 39968 with a cowcatcher, a new boiler end cap with light, a single chimney and a modified walkway etc to make it more similar to the AC/DC stage prop Rock 'N Roll Train.
Similarities: cylinders, forward-facing steam "blast pipes" below the cylinder, boiler handrails, part of the front frame, running gears etc
...
but I could also be wrong.....

perhaps it will be launched with some freight cars loaded with a hell bell and band equipment?


.. and the the USA.
I don't think FS ventured to Canada, not enough paying patrons perhaps.

modifying FS??
What a sacrilige that would be.
However it is only a model, so who cares?

Kimball


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Offline kiwiAlan  
#165 Posted : 21 March 2025 13:21:44(UTC)
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perhaps it will be launched with some freight cars loaded with a hell bell and band equipment?


Well, the letter that came out mentioned a bunch of the most popular things people liked about the band, and it seems there will be some accompanying wagons with suitable symbology. Only a couple of weeks to find out what the story is.

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#166 Posted : 07 April 2025 14:36:55(UTC)
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A Ce 6/8 Porsche 911 edition, might be coming in a special Porsche trainset, as product number 26911.
The locomotive will likely have 14911 as the running number.

It is also labelled HPP so it might be something special for the Hans-Peter Porsche Traumwerk and the 10-year anniversary?

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#167 Posted : 07 April 2025 19:59:46(UTC)
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A Ce 6/8 Porsche 911 edition, might be coming in a special Porsche trainset, as product number 26911.
The locomotive will likely have 14911 as the running number.

It is also labelled HPP so it might be something special for the Hans-Peter Porsche Traumwerk and the 10-year anniversary?



Oooh don't tempt me ...

Offline mike c  
#168 Posted : 07 April 2025 20:18:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post


had a second look at the picture and it looks like they have modified the Flying Scotsman. It also kind of makes some sense, since the Flying Scotsman has been to Australia.....

Imagine the 39968 with a cowcatcher, a new boiler end cap with light, a single chimney and a modified walkway etc to make it more similar to the AC/DC stage prop Rock 'N Roll Train.
Similarities: cylinders, forward-facing steam "blast pipes" below the cylinder, boiler handrails, part of the front frame, running gears etc
...
but I could also be wrong.....

perhaps it will be launched with some freight cars loaded with a hell bell and band equipment?


.. and the the USA.
I don't think FS ventured to Canada, not enough paying patrons perhaps.

modifying FS??
What a sacrilige that would be.
However it is only a model, so who cares?

Kimball


AFAIR the Flying Scotsman (LNER 4472) visited Montreal, Kingston and Toronto in or around 1970.

Regards

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Offline Sankch  
#169 Posted : 09 April 2025 12:44:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
A Ce 6/8 Porsche 911 edition, might be coming in a special Porsche trainset, as product number 26911.
The locomotive will likely have 14911 as the running number.

It is also labelled HPP so it might be something special for the Hans-Peter Porsche Traumwerk and the 10-year anniversary?



thank you, the set is in the new märklin magazin.

Enjoy your day

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#170 Posted : 09 April 2025 15:36:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
A Ce 6/8 Porsche 911 edition, might be coming in a special Porsche trainset, as product number 26911.
The locomotive will likely have 14911 as the running number.] It is also labelled HPP so it might be something special for the Hans-Peter Porsche Traumwerk and the 10-year anniversary?



Oooh don't tempt me ...



Already ordered mine.
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#171 Posted : 09 April 2025 18:38:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Sankch Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
A Ce 6/8 Porsche 911 edition, might be coming in a special Porsche trainset, as product number 26911.
The locomotive will likely have 14911 as the running number.

It is also labelled HPP so it might be something special for the Hans-Peter Porsche Traumwerk and the 10-year anniversary?



thank you, the set is in the new märklin magazin.

Enjoy your day

Sankch


Oh dear, does anyone have images or details? I am normally not one for non-prototypical items, but this has my heart and attention :)

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#172 Posted : 09 April 2025 21:59:11(UTC)
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Oh dear, does anyone have images or details? I am normally not one for non-prototypical items, but this has my heart and attention :)

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#173 Posted : 09 April 2025 22:08:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Sankch Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
A Ce 6/8 Porsche 911 edition, might be coming in a special Porsche trainset, as product number 26911.
The locomotive will likely have 14911 as the running number.

It is also labelled HPP so it might be something special for the Hans-Peter Porsche Traumwerk and the 10-year anniversary?



thank you, the set is in the new märklin magazin.

Enjoy your day

Sankch


Oh dear, does anyone have images or details? I am normally not one for non-prototypical items, but this has my heart and attention :)



Well, there are two double donnerbuchsen sets in the MM, but no details about a crocodile. One set is ruby red, and the other set is red/cream.

Offline kiwiAlan  
#174 Posted : 09 April 2025 22:09:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
A Ce 6/8 Porsche 911 edition, might be coming in a special Porsche trainset, as product number 26911.
The locomotive will likely have 14911 as the running number.] It is also labelled HPP so it might be something special for the Hans-Peter Porsche Traumwerk and the 10-year anniversary?



Oooh don't tempt me ...



Already ordered mine.


Where did you order from Dave?

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#175 Posted : 09 April 2025 22:16:18(UTC)
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I called my dealer today and asked if i can get one set of thecporsche crocodile he said, yes of course.
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#176 Posted : 09 April 2025 22:27:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post

Oh dear, does anyone have images or details? I am normally not one for non-prototypical items, but this has my heart and attention :)



Where are you finding the information about this set? There is no info I can find on the HPP web site about either this set, or the two coach sets shown in the Marklin Magazine issue 02/2025.

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#177 Posted : 10 April 2025 21:52:02(UTC)
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Well, I am most disappointed there has been no Summer New Items brochure.

Traditionally this brochure has been released at the Dortmund Messe, but Marklin appear to have limited themselves to the AC/DC items and the G1 Eidelweiss set - for which one will need to have really deep pockets, at well into 4k euro for the loco, nearly 12k euro for the 6 coach set, and nearly 3k euro for an additional coach - and that is if you order before July 1st, after that they all go up a significant percentage in cost.
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Offline mbarreto  
#178 Posted : 11 April 2025 14:33:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Well, I am most disappointed there has been no Summer New Items brochure.

Traditionally this brochure has been released at the Dortmund Messe, but Marklin appear to have limited themselves to the AC/DC items and the G1 Eidelweiss set - for which one will need to have really deep pockets, at well into 4k euro for the loco, nearly 12k euro for the 6 coach set, and nearly 3k euro for an additional coach - and that is if you order before July 1st, after that they all go up a significant percentage in cost.


With the prices of the new items, I really don't care about new items, and so a new items brochure.
This feeling has been growing in me for the last 2 or 3 years and I am less interested.
Best regards,
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#179 Posted : 14 April 2025 14:34:51(UTC)
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Well, there are two double donnerbuchsen sets in the MM, but no details about a crocodile. One set is ruby red, and the other set is red/cream.



the sets are now listed on the HPP shop page. They are available from tomorrow (15th), but you will need Porsche Deep Pockets to afford them.

Personenwagen-Set 1 and Personenwagen-Set 2 are 98 Euro each, and the Zugpackung „Jubiläumsedition "Zug-Set Porsche 911 mit Krokodil“ is 718 Euro.

Each item is limited to 911 examples.

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#180 Posted : 14 April 2025 16:35:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Well, I am most disappointed there has been no Summer New Items brochure.

Traditionally this brochure has been released at the Dortmund Messe, but Marklin appear to have limited themselves to the AC/DC items and the G1 Eidelweiss set - for which one will need to have really deep pockets, at well into 4k euro for the loco, nearly 12k euro for the 6 coach set, and nearly 3k euro for an additional coach - and that is if you order before July 1st, after that they all go up a significant percentage in cost.


Hopefully, the Summer New Items brochure is just delayed.
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#181 Posted : 14 April 2025 17:44:31(UTC)
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Something I'm mildly grumpy about is - 46719, "Digital Crane". And mostly I'm grumpy because it's a 3-rail only model.

I think its' probably a result of the complexity of making a DCC control system for something like this rather than an own-brand one where they can control the interface as well as the decoder. But still; it means the difference between the cheapest marklin digitally-controlled crane and the cheapest Trix one is 650eur.
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#182 Posted : 14 April 2025 18:22:25(UTC)
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Something I'm mildly grumpy about is - 46719, "Digital Crane". And mostly I'm grumpy because it's a 3-rail only model.

I think its' probably a result of the complexity of making a DCC control system for something like this rather than an own-brand one where they can control the interface as well as the decoder. But still; it means the difference between the cheapest marklin digitally-controlled crane and the cheapest Trix one is 650eur.


The tooling on this dates from the 1960s, so I doubt Marklin wants to spend the resources to do much beyond what they have already done. A similar model was released over ten years ago, 46715.
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#183 Posted : 14 April 2025 21:43:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: EB421 Go to Quoted Post
Something I'm mildly grumpy about is - 46719, "Digital Crane". And mostly I'm grumpy because it's a 3-rail only model.

I think its' probably a result of the complexity of making a DCC control system for something like this rather than an own-brand one where they can control the interface as well as the decoder. But still; it means the difference between the cheapest marklin digitally-controlled crane and the cheapest Trix one is 650eur.


The tooling on this dates from the 1960s, so I doubt Marklin wants to spend the resources to do much beyond what they have already done. A similar model was released over ten years ago, 46715.


There was also the 46716 done in the Fire Train red to go with the Fire Train starter set.

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#184 Posted : 14 April 2025 23:17:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: mrmarklin Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: EB421 Go to Quoted Post
Something I'm mildly grumpy about is - 46719, "Digital Crane". And mostly I'm grumpy because it's a 3-rail only model.

I think its' probably a result of the complexity of making a DCC control system for something like this rather than an own-brand one where they can control the interface as well as the decoder. But still; it means the difference between the cheapest marklin digitally-controlled crane and the cheapest Trix one is 650eur.


The tooling on this dates from the 1960s, so I doubt Marklin wants to spend the resources to do much beyond what they have already done. A similar model was released over ten years ago, 46715.


There was also the 46716 done in the Fire Train red to go with the Fire Train starter set.



you also have the 46717 and 46718. I believe they all have the same construction and a decoder that only supports MM. The flat car is permanently connected and has the pickup shoe.

The main change with the new one is that the pickup shoe is now located under the crane, and the decoder supports DCC, mfx and MM. so the connection to the flat car is not permanent any longer.

Hopefully, the reliability of the piezo drives/motors will also be improved in the new 46719

in the 46719 manual Märklin lists DC wheels as spare parts, so perhaps a Trix version will come? (E700530 for the crane)

Edited by user 15 April 2025 10:27:28(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#185 Posted : 15 April 2025 09:57:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: EB421 Go to Quoted Post
Something I'm mildly grumpy about is - 46719, "Digital Crane". And mostly I'm grumpy because it's a 3-rail only model.

I think its' probably a result of the complexity of making a DCC control system for something like this rather than an own-brand one where they can control the interface as well as the decoder. But still; it means the difference between the cheapest marklin digitally-controlled crane and the cheapest Trix one is 650eur.


Why be grumpy about this?
- the model is MM2, DCC, MFX capable
- indeed its wheels are conducting BUT is it so hard to replace them with non conducting wheels?
- the slider being now under the crane makes it even easier to do the conversion.

Here is the 46715 motorized crane, at the time using piezo motors and only MM2-capable
Sans titre.png
A funny little crane that is just great
Here is a video of my 46715 is operation (4:05 into the video)

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#186 Posted : 15 April 2025 14:27:23(UTC)
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Hi
Why be grumpy about this?


Simple - I want to play too! Flapper

Quote:

- the model is MM2, DCC, MFX capable


I admit to being a little sus about the DCC claim - none of the previous versions supported DCC, and though the manual also gives the DCC address of 03; there's no documentation of what functions control it in DCC mode. Given that it's not out yet, it could as easily be a "forgot to remove that on the template". No-one is infallible, even though we're talking about Marklin rather than Hornby. On the other hand, I guess this gives me the easy out of returning it if I buy one and it doesn't support DCC.

Quote:

- indeed its wheels are conducting BUT is it so hard to replace them with non conducting wheels?
- the slider being now under the crane makes it even easier to do the conversion.


Honest answer - I don't know, I haven't tried it yet! But if it would be a trivial fix, why wouldn't they also release it as a TRIX model out of the gate? They don't normally seem to wait (looking at Scotsman, Black Ice as examples). A DCC controlled crane for 1/5 the price of the nearest competitor from Roco*, able to be used on any normal track from any brand - surely that would be a big seller?

Quote:

Here is the 46715 motorized crane, at the time using piezo motors and only MM2-capable
A funny little crane that is just great
Here is a video of my 46715 is operation (4:05 into the video)

Cheers
Jean


Stop tempting me to buy an expensive model and mod it! Drool

Best,
Gray.

* Feel I should note - I understand this is a much, much more basic model than the 700eur Roco or the 1000eur TRIX - but my point is it's a much more approachable entry point to being able to do cool stuff like you show in your video. At under 200eur; one could get a pair of them and still have 340eur "change" to buy a loco to pull them with.
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#187 Posted : 15 April 2025 18:45:56(UTC)
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Hi
Originally Posted by: EB421 Go to Quoted Post
I admit to being a little sus about the DCC claim - none of the previous versions supported DCC, and though the manual also gives the DCC address of 03; there's no documentation of what functions control it in DCC mode. Given that it's not out yet, it could as easily be a "forgot to remove that on the template". No-one is infallible, even though we're talking about Marklin rather than Hornby. On the other hand, I guess this gives me the easy out of returning it if I buy one and it doesn't support DCC.

What a strange statement! The model WILL BE CAPABLE of MM2, DCC and MFX. Märklin has been doing this for YEARS

The user's manual is here
https://static.maerklin....3cb36654631741585203.pdf
On page 23 it clearlky states that you can control the speed and direction of ANY of the THREE motors (rotation, angle of the boam, hook up & down.
Your risk is NOT not to have it work but rather to take too much time before deciding

Why not released in 2 rails by Trix? Not sure BUT Märklin still sells the DC wheelsets for the crane and I am almost sure there is a slider-replacement to puck on isolated wheels

I use Märklin since 1961 and it almost NEVER FAILED ME over 100 locos, digital cranes, etc

Cheers
Jean


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Offline EB421  
#188 Posted : 15 April 2025 20:42:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Go to Quoted Post
Hi
What a strange statement! The model WILL BE CAPABLE of MM2, DCC and MFX. Märklin has been doing this for YEARS

The user's manual is here
On page 23 it clearlky states that you can control the speed and direction of ANY of the THREE motors (rotation, angle of the boam, hook up & down.


Yes. And unless I'm missing something that you are seeing, it shows you how to do this only with Marklin MFX controllers, it does not provide DCC function lists anywhere. If you compare with say ... the Flying Scotsman manual - pages 19 and 20?

But I'm glad to hear your vote of confidence in Marklin's infallibility. That's encouraging! I'll definitely keep my eye out when they hit retail.

Quote:

Your risk is NOT not to have it work but rather to take too much time before deciding


Eh. There's multiple examples of the previous versions on eBay right now. Everything comes round again; and missing this would not be the end of my world, as much as I'd love one. But we shall be optimistic!
Offline kiwiAlan  
#189 Posted : 15 April 2025 23:58:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: EB421 Go to Quoted Post
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Yes. And unless I'm missing something that you are seeing, it shows you how to do this only with Marklin MFX controllers, it does not provide DCC function lists anywhere.


Why do you expect the function numbers to change between the two protocols? F7 in one protocol doesn't suddenly become F2 in the other, that becomes absurd.
Offline EB421  
#190 Posted : 16 April 2025 01:39:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post

Why do you expect the function numbers to change between the two protocols? F7 in one protocol doesn't suddenly become F2 in the other, that becomes absurd.


I've sent an email to Marklin to get confirmation about how the DCC controls work. Because F1 on one Marklin controller is F5 on another, according to the manual.

Hopefully they can settle this for me conclusively. :)
Offline Vinedusk  
#191 Posted : 16 April 2025 05:32:13(UTC)
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The sound and smell of popcorn cooking is always a more pleasant experience that actually eating it.
But now looks like a good time to get some.Drool

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#192 Posted : 16 April 2025 12:44:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: EB421 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post

Why do you expect the function numbers to change between the two protocols? F7 in one protocol doesn't suddenly become F2 in the other, that becomes absurd.


I've sent an email to Marklin to get confirmation about how the DCC controls work. Because F1 on one Marklin controller is F5 on another, according to the manual.

Hopefully they can settle this for me conclusively. :)


if you are looking at the column for an ms1 (60651/2) then forget it - that controller is limited in how it can display the icons, so controls get rearranged willy-nilly because of this. Also that controller cannot do DCC, so it is not in your orbit anyway.

The picture that Johnjean refers to gives you all the information you need to operate the crane. All the controllers apart from the ms1 use the same function numbers for the same operation. There is no swapping of functions between function numbers.



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#193 Posted : 26 April 2025 21:10:41(UTC)
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The Marklin Store loco and wagon have been announced.
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