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 Joined: 27/12/2022(UTC) Posts: 10 Location: Lisbon
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Dear menbers:
I'm a beginer in the world of the marklin digital. I started with 12 years and now i have 74!
I stoped in the Delta. I have MS 1 and 2, a CS 1 and a CS 2. With the MS i can acess to 32 functions and with cs1or CS 2 only 16. I've bought the new robel "vehicule" and 2 ESU locos.
I can more functions with the MS than with CS 1 or 2.
Is this normal?
Sorry for my english. I wish to salute all the menbers.
Best Regards
António 21
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 Joined: 10/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,024 Location: Den Helder, Noord-Holland
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Hi Antonio,
Your CS2 should be able to access all 32 functions (that became available in a 2017 update), so it may be necessary to update your CS2. Apparently, the CS1 cannot anymore be used together with the CS2 when the CS2 has been updated, but I don't know if that has changed in the meantime.
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Originally Posted by: Antonio21  Dear menbers:
I'm a beginer in the world of the marklin digital. I started with 12 years and now i have 74!
I stoped in the Delta. I have MS 1 and 2, a CS 1 and a CS 2. With the MS i can acess to 32 functions and with cs1or CS 2 only 16. I've bought the new robel "vehicule" and 2 ESU locos.
I can more functions with the MS than with CS 1 or 2.
Is this normal?
Sorry for my english. I wish to salute all the menbers.
Best Regards
António 21
I guess that you did bought MS2 with already upgraded latest version? Märklins old CS1 are out of the business and there is no upgrade for this old system. Same about for the MS1. CS2 and CS3/CS3+ can use 32 functions and the CS2 must be upgrade latest version if you want control 32 function. Do you have DCC protocol in the CS2 too? |
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Originally Posted by: jerdenberg Apparently, the CS1 cannot anymore be used together with the CS2 when the CS2 has been updated, but I don't know if that has changed in the meantime. There was a specific update version where the CS2 no longer had support for the CS1 as a remote controller - version 4.2.13 is the version that ceases CS1 support. Originally Posted by: Goofy Märklins old CS1 are out of the business and there is no upgrade for this old system. Not 100% correct. If you purchased the ESU CS1Reloaded update then you have all updates available including current versions. If you didn't purchase the CS1Reloaded update then you're stuck with v2.0.4 being the latest you can have.
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Joined: 27/12/2022(UTC) Posts: 10 Location: Lisbon
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Thank you for yours answers. I'm really grateful.
I'm going to try make the update in first place.
I'll inform all the helpers. Many many Thanks.
António 21
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: Goofy Märklins old CS1 are out of the business and there is no upgrade for this old system. Not 100% correct. If you purchased the ESU CS1Reloaded update then you have all updates available including current versions. If you didn't purchase the CS1Reloaded update then you're stuck with v2.0.4 being the latest you can have. ESU CS1Reloaded are out of the business. ESU does not upgrade this system anymore time. V2.0.4 are the latest version? I cannot find latest upgrade for this system in the ESU homepage. What i can see are just Ecos shows up. |
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 Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse
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 Originally Posted by: Goofy ESU CS1Reloaded are out of the business.
ESU does not upgrade this system anymore time. Not correct, read Bigdaddynz's post again. Per. |
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CS1Reloaded are not in sale by ESU anymore time. The last upgrade was years ago. |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy CS1Reloaded are not in sale by ESU anymore time. The last upgrade was years ago. The last update was January 2022 for CS1 reloaded, for ECoS Monochrome, and for ECoS Colour screen - all at the same time. It's a mature system that seldom needs bug fixes. |
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 Joined: 11/11/2012(UTC) Posts: 107 Location: Maroubra
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Hello,
I have been pondering this issue of 32 functions on the CS2. I have the latest upgrade and am running a ESU locomotive with 32 functions but I can't work out how to access the other 16 functions, that is, I have 8 controlled by the physical buttons, and another 8 controlled by the touch screen. How do you access the other 16? Please excuse my ignorance.
regards
Paul
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Joined: 10/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,024 Location: Den Helder, Noord-Holland
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Hi Paul,
There should be a small button in the outer lower corner of the speed dial, saying F 0 15. That should change to the higher numbers when activated.
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Originally Posted by: Cyborg How do you access the other 16? Initially mfx was limited to 16 functions. So with older decoders, mfx may still be limited to 16 functions (decoder limitation), even though the UI now supports 32 functions and the loco has more than 16 functions when using DCC. I don't understand why mfx initially started with a limit of 16 functions, but this legacy still imposes some limitations. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy ESU CS1Reloaded are out of the business.
ESU does not upgrade this system anymore time. Originally Posted by: Goofy CS1Reloaded are not in sale by ESU anymore time. The last upgrade was years ago. Goofy, I don't know why you persist with your Bird Brain reasoning. Yes, the CS1 Reloaded kits are not available now. But updates continue to be issued, as Tom points out the last was v4.2.10 in January 2022 which is the same version that was available for newer Ecos versions. Maybe a picture will help.....   Moral of the story - Listen to the folks who know what they're talking about and stop arguing.
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Jerdenberg had the answer. Here is a youtube video to confirm:
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Originally Posted by: rhfil Jerdenberg had the answer. Hear, hear. ESU V4 decoders are limited to 16 functions in mfx mode, but have more functions in DCC mode. The video confirms what it confirms. Note: To get more than 16 functions after upgrading the CS2, the decoder must be deleted from the CS2 loco list. It may have more functions after the re-registration. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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Joined: 27/12/2022(UTC) Posts: 10 Location: Lisbon
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Good morning everybody :
Thank you all for your suport.
António 21
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: Goofy ESU CS1Reloaded are out of the business.
ESU does not upgrade this system anymore time. Originally Posted by: Goofy CS1Reloaded are not in sale by ESU anymore time. The last upgrade was years ago. Goofy, I don't know why you persist with your Bird Brain reasoning. Yes, the CS1 Reloaded kits are not available now. But updates continue to be issued, as Tom points out the last was v4.2.10 in January 2022 which is the same version that was available for newer Ecos versions. Maybe a picture will help..... Moral of the story - Listen to the folks who know what they're talking about and stop arguing. At ESU homepage in the "aktuell" there is no information about CS1 reloaded upgrade. By the way...ESU has stop marketing CS1 Reloaded. It´s a old system. There is limited function in that system. Not worth to get this system at second market, so it´s better to buy new digital system with better soft program. |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy At ESU homepage in the "aktuell" there is no information about CS1 reloaded upgrade.
By the way...ESU has stop marketing CS1 Reloaded.
It´s a old system.
There is limited function in that system. CS1 Reloaded (discontinued) and ESU ECoS 50200 (not discontinued) share the same code base and have the same features. It is an old, mature, and complete system. The functions are not so limited. But this thread is about CS2. By the way...Märklin has stopped marketing CS2. It´s an old system. There is limited function in that system. But CS2 is the topic in this thread. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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 Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,452 Location: Scotland
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Not sure what the Cs1does now but the one I had was terrible compared with the Cs2. My now CS3 is better than the Cs2 as new items give further improvements. However as the thread is about the CS2 it should give all the functions for locos. I see Antonio talks about ESU locos but I don’t have any but would have thought they would operate fully with a CS2. I would sell the CS1 and CS2 and buy the CS3. |
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Joined: 27/12/2022(UTC) Posts: 10 Location: Lisbon
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Thanks for your opinions and help.
I restart my activity, wich was in the Delta system, with pre owned MSs and CS1 and CS2 i learned a Lot with your help and trying.
My intention is as your advice :buy a new CS3/+.
But first i want to be more familiar with Marklin systems.
Step by step!
Again thanks to you all.
António 21
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Joined: 27/12/2022(UTC) Posts: 10 Location: Lisbon
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Good afternoon to all.
I don't know if i have DCC in my CS2. How can see if i have? Or turn it off or on. Don't laugh but as i said before i started with digital only now. I interrupt my activity with Delta.
Best Regards
António 21
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Originally Posted by: Antonio21 I don't know if i have DCC in my CS2. How can see if i have? With the latest update, the CS2 will have DCC. Just check the "track" settings. You have DCC if the value is "auto" or a value that includes "DCC". DCC should be on by default. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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There m.are a number of CS2 videos on Youtube. You should watch them.
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Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,452 Location: Scotland
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Marklin have a book on running with their systems which is worth buying. |
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer. |
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Joined: 27/12/2022(UTC) Posts: 10 Location: Lisbon
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Marklin have a book on running with their systems which is worth buying. Thank you. I'll try buy il. Best Regards António 21
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