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Offline geir  
#1 Posted : 29 November 2022 22:39:55(UTC)
geir

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Hi
I have a Marklin Ae 8/14 SBB 11801.I'm tying to find out which catalog nr the loco have.
I found a number under the train :M 7194194.Cant find anything on internet-The train is running but no lights,Maybe a delta decoder?When reading the decoder,it fails on my cs3.

Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 29 November 2022 22:45:57(UTC)
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Hi!
Looks like you found the serial number. Initial letter M indicates Delta decoder.
Intensity of lights varies with the speed. Run full speed for bright lights.

33591 has three pantographs, 33593 has two pantographs.

Edit: Swapped two digits in the ref. numbers.

Edited by user 30 November 2022 17:29:38(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Tom
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Offline geir  
#3 Posted : 30 November 2022 17:23:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Hi!
Looks like you found the serial number. Initial letter M indicates Delta decoder.
Intensity of lights varies with the speed. Run full speed for bright lights.

33951 has three pantographs, 33953 has two pantographs.


https://www.lokmuseum.co...%20Ae%208/14%20der%20SBB year 1997 nr 37591.ty.


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Offline nmbssncb  
#4 Posted : 31 December 2022 18:08:24(UTC)
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An M in front of the number means it a locomotive with a Delta decoder (as opposed to H with a 6090 or more recent decoder).

The CS3 will not "read" or register a Delta decoder (or any decoder with dip switches to set the locomotive address). You will have to search for the number 33751 in the list on your CS3. Please refer to the manual.

Furthermore, the lights of locomotives with a Delta decoder will only light up when the locomotive starts running, as far as I know.


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Offline kiwiAlan  
#5 Posted : 31 December 2022 19:58:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nmbssncb Go to Quoted Post

Furthermore, the lights of locomotives with a Delta decoder will only light up when the locomotive starts running, as far as I know.


That varies with the decoder. Some the brightness varies with speed on digital, others are constant brightness on digital.

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Offline mike c  
#6 Posted : 31 December 2022 22:05:37(UTC)
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http://www.hfkern.de/Maerklin/CH_ae814.html

Ae8/14
Art.Nr. ZeitraumUmschalterMotorEpocheBetr.NrBetreiberFarbe, Sonstiges
33591 1997 Delta DCM 11801 SBB grün, 3 STA
33592 1997 Delta DCM 11801 SBB silber, 3 STA
33593 1999-2001 Delta DCM III 11801 SBB grün, 2 STA
37591 1997 Dig.6090 DCM 11801 SBB grün, 3 STA
37593 1999-2001 Dig.6090 DCM III 11801 SBB grün, 2 STA
26539 2002 Dig.6090x DCM III 11801 SBB grün, 2 STA, Zugset

There were only three Ae 8/14 built, 11801 and 11851/11852. The model made by Maerklin corresponds only to 11801.
Roco has made models of 11852 (Landilok) and the updated 11851 with the Ae 6/6 cabs.

The first three models listed on HFKern are Delta. We can eliminate 33592 because it was painted silver. You will be able to determine which model your's is by how many pantographs it is equipped with
At first when you said that no lights come on, I was trying to figure out if any of the models had the 6080 decoder, because that decoder often had lights that only worked in digital operation. The Delta and 6090 and 6090X decoder models should have lights in analog operation which depend on the speed selected.

Regards

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