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Offline franciscohg  
#51 Posted : 21 October 2022 16:01:14(UTC)
franciscohg

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Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: franciscohg Go to Quoted Post
Hello
I received mine a week ago. I felt it not that heavy IMHO, removed the ashtrays and i must say that i am very happy with it, running flawlessly with 5 wagons and R1 and R2 Mtrack with 5% grades. Indeed she does not like curved turnouts very much, but that is almost a standard with newer and other brands locomotives, so one pair is already gone and the other will be out at the same moment that i receive a couple of 5200 ones.
Overall very, very happy with the loco and its performance.
Regards


Hi. good yours is working fine, have you noticed if your front wheels lift up on the inside?[/quote

Hi, a little bit on R1, but does not affect thé running at alk.

UserPostedImage German trains era I-II and selected III, era depends on the mood, mostly Maerklin but i can be heretic if needed XD, heresy is no longer an issue.. LOL
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Offline JohnjeanB  
#52 Posted : 22 October 2022 00:41:13(UTC)
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Hi BHP
Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
Thanks, Jean, I had forgotten about the ashtray. and Märklin did not include the notice with my locomotive.

Please don't take offense with my question: have you checked the document drawer at the back of the carton? The documentation is hidden there (or on the internet of course)

Kind regards
Jean

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Offline dickinsonj  
#53 Posted : 22 October 2022 01:15:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post

On the 39662 gearboxes I pushed the grease down and it was only "blocked" at the top, it was not overfilled.

I should have thought of that. Most of my locos come that way actually, with fairly small amount stuck at the top, which needs to be pushed down onto the gear.

Whether needed or not, I tend to be extra careful with lube levels on the gearboxes of steamers.

The BR 06 looks beautiful btw - I am eager to get mine.

Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline H0  
#54 Posted : 22 October 2022 10:30:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Go to Quoted Post
Please don't take offense with my question: have you checked the document drawer at the back of the carton?
The PDF manual was created on August 30. Locos were already shipped before that date, but I don't know what's different between the printed version and the online version.

Regards
Tom
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Offline bph  
#55 Posted : 22 October 2022 10:33:12(UTC)
bph

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Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Go to Quoted Post
Hi BHP
Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
Thanks, Jean, I had forgotten about the ashtray. and Märklin did not include the notice with my locomotive.

Please don't take offense with my question: have you checked the document drawer at the back of the carton? The documentation is hidden there (or on the internet of course)

Kind regards
Jean



none taken :), it's a valid question. but there is absolutely no documentation in the box that describe the ashtrays.
I have an Excel document with a list of locomotives and wagons etc. The list includes a quick link to manuals and parts lists, stored on my computer. And the manual I downloaded first also lacked that information and is identical to the printed manual in the box.

But it seems that the locomotive was never intended to be officially capable of R1. An employee at Göppingen told me that a senior manager made a typo and wrote R1 in sted of R2, and the wrong information went out to other departments and marketing etc. if this information is accurate, then it's an expensive typo....

Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
The PDF manual was created on August 30. Locos were already shipped before that date, but I don't know what's different between the printed version and the online version.

The first online manual, just for reference: 39662 old manual

Märklin has also (so far?) released at least 3 different decoder projects for this locomotive, the 3rd and final? is the one installed in the locomotive.
(last time I checked the last version was only available on the web pages, through the mDecoderTool I got an older project.)
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Offline mbarreto  
#56 Posted : 25 October 2022 18:38:09(UTC)
mbarreto

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Mine doesn't run backwards on R2 (no need for turnouts to have the problem).
The problem seems to be the distance between tender and locomotive. When set in the large distance between tender
and locomotive, this distance doesn't keep constant. When runing forward this distance is big (as it should be) and the locomotive
goes well on R2, including 24611/2 turnouts. When running backwards the locomotive shrinks that distance and derails easily without a single success pass on R2.
It will go tomorrow to the dealer.
I didn't open the tender but I think it is a part that is not in place or is broken inside the tender.
I will keep you updated when I have it back running well.
Despite this problem that I am sure will be solved with relative ease, I like a lot the locomotive and I prefer it over the Brawa in red that I also have. But I think is
just the tonality of the Brawa red and the dynamic smoke of the Brawa. Both are excellent in look.

Regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline bph  
#57 Posted : 26 October 2022 15:29:37(UTC)
bph

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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post

Mine doesn't run backwards on R2 (no need for turnouts to have the problem).
The problem seems to be the distance between tender and locomotive. When set in the large distance between tender
and locomotive, this distance doesn't keep constant. When runing forward this distance is big (as it should be) and the locomotive
goes well on R2, including 24611/2 turnouts. When running backwards the locomotive shrinks that distance and derails easily without a single success pass on R2.
It will go tomorrow to the dealer.
I didn't open the tender but I think it is a part that is not in place or is broken inside the tender.
I will keep you updated when I have it back running well.
Despite this problem that I am sure will be solved with relative ease, I like a lot the locomotive and I prefer it over the Brawa in red that I also have. But I think is
just the tonality of the Brawa red and the dynamic smoke of the Brawa. Both are excellent in look.

Regards,
Miguel


Sorry to hear about your problems, but as you suspect something is probably wrong/broken. I had no problems with the tender, running backwards, and the distance was constant, (with long distance)
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Offline JohnjeanB  
#58 Posted : 26 October 2022 15:43:55(UTC)
JohnjeanB

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Location: Paris, France
Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post

The problem seems to be the distance between tender and locomotive. When set in the large distance between tender
and locomotive, this distance doesn't keep constant. When runing forward this distance is big (as it should be) and the locomotive
goes well on R2, including 24611/2 turnouts. When running backwards the locomotive shrinks that distance and derails easily without a single success pass on R2.
It will go tomorrow to the dealer.

Hi Miguel
What you describe is either the short coupling between the loco and tender not being locked into the wide position
or the same coupling is brocken (latching knob brocken)
Which is which? I don't know.
Cheers
Jean

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Offline ocram63_uk  
#59 Posted : 26 October 2022 18:25:08(UTC)
ocram63_uk

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Location: England, Suffolk
out of curiosity is the chassis of this loco all in one piece. 3047 had it in two pieces and ran flawlessly.
If it is in one piece I wonder why they didn't do it like the 3047? Just a question
Offline mbarreto  
#60 Posted : 26 October 2022 19:29:25(UTC)
mbarreto

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Hello,

Jean and Bph, thanks for your replies. Problem solved in the dealer.
Basically, the tender distance was not locked in the wider spacing. It was not locked in the narrow spacing either, but from what I
understood there is no locking in the short distance.
This is why when the locomotive was running in forward there was no problem as the spacing was wide, but when the locomotive was
running backwards the spacing changed to narrow.

I must say that the locking was not so easy to achieve, and it was needed to remove the slider and the part just above the slider
as it is not easily seen with all parts assembled.

I am happy now that the issue is solved :-)

Regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline JohnjeanB  
#61 Posted : 26 October 2022 19:37:35(UTC)
JohnjeanB

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Hi Marco
Originally Posted by: ocram63_uk Go to Quoted Post
out of curiosity is the chassis of this loco all in one piece. 3047 had it in two pieces and ran flawlessly.
If it is in one piece I wonder why they didn't do it like the 3047? Just a question

Yes Märklin stopped using articulated chassis around 1980.
At the time ALL locos were capable of riding on 5120 industrial track with a 286mm radius (much smaller radius than today's R1). I checked this personnally.

Also in 2017, Märklin released a 241 model the 39241 (242 A 65 SNCF) which runs flawlesly on all C Track radii. I have also the 39243 (241 EST) and they run MUCH BETTER than the BR 45. So, Märklin controls the technique of driving axles lateral play.

Re. the 39662, the issue seems to be located with the front bogie and its tendency on R1 to have its wheels rubbing the chassis.
I am confident that Märklin's corrections are good. Simply, when purchasing a 39662, one must pay attention to the manufacturing date (Sept. Octb. and NOT end July.).

Cheers
Jean
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Offline JohnjeanB  
#62 Posted : 26 October 2022 20:15:58(UTC)
JohnjeanB

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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
Basically, the tender distance was not locked in the wider spacing. It was not locked in the narrow spacing either, but from what I
understood there is no locking in the short distance.

I am pretty sure there is.
Jean

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Offline dickinsonj  
#63 Posted : 27 October 2022 01:54:31(UTC)
dickinsonj

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Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Go to Quoted Post

Also in 2017, Märklin released a 241 model the 39241 (242 A 65 SNCF) which runs flawlesly on all C Track radii.


Good observation Jean.

My 241 moves through tight spaces more easily than many smaller locos.

Obviously that is a well engineered model and it miraculously handles the tight cures with ease, showing that a long wheelbase is not an excuse for poor running.
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
Offline hxmiesa  
#64 Posted : 27 October 2022 10:55:24(UTC)
hxmiesa

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Delete. I commented on an error in a 1 year old post, that was already corrected.
Best regards
Henrik Hoexbroe ("The Dane In Spain")
http://hoexbroe.tripod.com
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Offline mrunix  
#65 Posted : 19 November 2022 21:10:46(UTC)
mrunix

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Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Go to Quoted Post
Hi Marco
Originally Posted by: ocram63_uk Go to Quoted Post
out of curiosity is the chassis of this loco all in one piece. 3047 had it in two pieces and ran flawlessly.
If it is in one piece I wonder why they didn't do it like the 3047? Just a question

Yes Märklin stopped using articulated chassis around 1980.
At the time ALL locos were capable of riding on 5120 industrial track with a 286mm radius (much smaller radius than today's R1). I checked this personnally.

Also in 2017, Märklin released a 241 model the 39241 (242 A 65 SNCF) which runs flawlesly on all C Track radii. I have also the 39243 (241 EST) and they run MUCH BETTER than the BR 45. So, Märklin controls the technique of driving axles lateral play.

Re. the 39662, the issue seems to be located with the front bogie and its tendency on R1 to have its wheels rubbing the chassis.
I am confident that Märklin's corrections are good. Simply, when purchasing a 39662, one must pay attention to the manufacturing date (Sept. Octb. and NOT end July.).

Cheers
Jean


Hi, just picked up my 39662, how to find the manufacturing date?
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