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Offline Francois29  
#1 Posted : 15 November 2022 15:12:29(UTC)
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Hello

Any update on Insider Clubmodel 1/2023 ?
Last year it was around Novembre 17th.
Till now I haven’t seen anything 😧
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Offline vilithejou  
#2 Posted : 16 November 2022 22:29:06(UTC)
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From stummi forum

The date is 2 december
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#3 Posted : 17 November 2022 15:25:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Go to Quoted Post
From stummi forum

The date is 2 december


They are getting later and later ... a bit like the delivery of this years 2nd Insider model ... Blink

Offline H0  
#4 Posted : 17 November 2022 18:01:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Go to Quoted Post
The date is 2 december
Ah, the International Day of Model Railroads.

Regards
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Offline Goofy  
#5 Posted : 27 November 2022 08:15:14(UTC)
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I think it will be a new V65 with complete new work tool.
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Offline Goofy  
#6 Posted : 27 November 2022 08:17:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: vilithejou Go to Quoted Post
From stummi forum

The date is 2 december


They are getting later and later ... a bit like the delivery of this years 2nd Insider model ... Blink



Roco, ESU, Brawa etc...are late too with theirs models.
Energy crises and conflicts in the world reduce industry production.
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Offline river6109  
#7 Posted : 27 November 2022 12:21:10(UTC)
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Offline vilithejou  
#8 Posted : 27 November 2022 12:41:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Insider information: ÖBB Rh 1189



Two years ago OBB kroko? Confused Confused
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Offline Goofy  
#9 Posted : 27 November 2022 17:42:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Insider information: ÖBB Rh 1189


How did you get the info?

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#10 Posted : 27 November 2022 18:45:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Insider information: ÖBB Rh 1189


How did you get the info?



he's forgetting that we are talking about the 2023 model we are anticipating, and instead referencing the earlier model, and forgetting that we have an electric loco for the second 2022 model, so we know it won't be an electric loco.
Offline ROBMODEL  
#11 Posted : 28 November 2022 13:28:58(UTC)
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Insider model 1-2023 will be Br01.10 see Marklin Tv Extra Folge 43


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Offline kiwiAlan  
#12 Posted : 28 November 2022 13:47:31(UTC)
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Now we just need the 2023 Museum Wagons ...
Offline H0  
#13 Posted : 28 November 2022 13:57:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ROBMODEL Go to Quoted Post
Insider model 1-2023 will be Br01.10
I already have the BR 01.10 Outsider model from Roco and don't need more of that class.

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Offline mbarreto  
#14 Posted : 28 November 2022 18:16:32(UTC)
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Hello,

I like it, although I would prefer the BR 01.10 to have silver stripes in the boiler.
The traction wheels look big and that's something I like in steamers.
The restaurant coach looks very good in the video (that at this moment seems to be no longer online).
Synchronized smoke in a BR 01.10 is a good idea!
If I will go to it or not, I will decide later. What I already decided is to be an Insider again after 2 years as outsider.

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Offline bph  
#15 Posted : 28 November 2022 18:29:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ROBMODEL Go to Quoted Post
Insider model 1-2023 will be Br01.10 see Marklin Tv Extra Folge 43

Regards Rob


Thanks,
but it seems like Märklin made a mistake and published it too early, and they have now removed the video
(i managed t save a copy, before they removed it)

As for the model, it's a nice model but I don't know yet if I will order it. The coaches are supposed to be a completely new development, if that's true I might order those.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#16 Posted : 29 November 2022 00:26:03(UTC)
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The new Clubmodel for 2023 will be locomotive 01 1088 with narrow smoke deflectors and induction detector, item #39760.
It also features a bulbous feed-water heater at front of the smokebox like some US engines.
It appears to be modelled as running in the early 1950s.

Bezeichnung: Dampflokomotive Baureihe 01.10 Altbau
Description: Class 01.10 Older Design Steam Locomotive


The adjunct passenger car set is item #42529.

Bezeichnung: Schnellzugwagen-Set der Einheitsbauart 1928 bis 1930
Description: Standard Design 1928 to 1930 Express Train Passenger Car Set

I do not own a BR01 steam locomotive.
Maybe it is time to get one.

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Offline H0  
#17 Posted : 29 November 2022 00:35:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
I do not own a BR01 steam locomotive.
The new Insider model is not a BR 01, it is a BR 01.10. For former has two cylinders and was never streamlined, the latter has three cylinders and was streamlined in era II. Two completely different loco classes.
So there are good reasons to get both a BR 01 and a BR 01.10.

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Offline applor  
#18 Posted : 29 November 2022 01:35:08(UTC)
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Exciting news for us modelling era3a if this is true!

The standard design 30 and 36 wagons have long been missing in 50's livery for such a common wagon type after the war.
Hopefully Marklin have done the standard design type 30 wagons true to form! Previously only Roco have released the type 36 for era3a, though with incorrect windows from the type 30 mould.

Marklin had already released a 01.10 for era3a but it had the old noisey DCM motor (37104 Bellingrodt edition) so would have preferred a BR01 with Witte deflectors for era3a since they are non-existent until Brawa release theirs in a few months. Still happy for a new 01.10 with quiet motor though!
modelling 1954 Germany (era IIIa)
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Offline Bryan  
#19 Posted : 29 November 2022 06:18:40(UTC)
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The BR01.10 was last issued as 39104. This had a G1 soft-sine motor. It has the silver boiler bands on it as well. The new one will have more detail, however this older version is very nice. The 39104 was replaced by the BR01 39010 from memory.

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Offline Goofy  
#20 Posted : 29 November 2022 09:42:55(UTC)
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Brawa have steam locomotives too BR 01.
They are all great models with great sounds effect and AUX functions.
I wonder if Märklin this time too present similar same functions?
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Offline vilithejou  
#21 Posted : 29 November 2022 09:51:21(UTC)
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Offline Goofy  
#22 Posted : 29 November 2022 10:36:30(UTC)
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Nice!
But wagon set at €579,00...!?
And there is no decoder to switch lighting off/on and red tail lights either too as digital function.
No info about the new wagon light with the capacitor.

Confused
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Offline mbarreto  
#23 Posted : 29 November 2022 12:35:50(UTC)
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There is also the BR03.10 (37915 Insider 2010) that I think is more similar to the BR01.10 than the BR01 itself.
I have the 39103 (Oil fired BR01.10) and the 37915. The new BR01.10 looks better than any of the others, but is also a bit redundant
in my collection. Will see what I will do.

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#24 Posted : 29 November 2022 15:18:31(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post

There is also the BR03.10 (37915 Insider 2010) that I think is more similar to the BR01.10 than the BR01 itself.
I have the 39103 (Oil fired BR01.10) and the 37915. The new BR01.10 looks better than any of the others, but is also a bit redundant
in my collection. Will see what I will do.

Regards,
Miguel


Ah, you will just HAVE to get it with its synchronised smoke ... Drool Drool

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Offline Eurobahnfan  
#25 Posted : 29 November 2022 15:24:42(UTC)
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Very nice… but oh — that price!
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#26 Posted : 29 November 2022 16:15:47(UTC)
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Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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Offline bph  
#27 Posted : 29 November 2022 16:29:08(UTC)
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Very nice… but oh — that price!


yes indeed, but still 80€ cheaper than the Albatros, and it can run on a 360mm radius. But then "everything" is getting more expensive these days, except container shipping rates....

if there is one thing I miss with this model, it is that it lacks the option to control the wagon lights from the locomotive. eg like in the br 78.10 39781, but its a minor thing and not decisive.

in total it's a nice and tempting model. Wonder if my wife will miss that nice ring she never uses.......
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Offline Goofy  
#28 Posted : 29 November 2022 17:06:28(UTC)
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It is possible to install a function decoder to control the lightings effect in the wagon set.
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#29 Posted : 29 November 2022 17:20:36(UTC)
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It is possible to install a function decoder to control the lightings effect in the wagon set.


Yeah, but with the wagon set almost as much as the loco why didn't they include a decoder in there?

Personally I'm not a fan of controlling the coach lights from the loco.
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Offline bph  
#30 Posted : 29 November 2022 18:38:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
It is possible to install a function decoder to control the lightings effect in the wagon set.


Yeah, but with the wagon set almost as much as the loco why didn't they include a decoder in there?

Personally I'm not a fan of controlling the coach lights from the loco.


an option I would like to see, is that wagon sets are prepared for a decoder and to receive power from a locomotive, then the customer can decide if they want to plug in a decoder, control it from a locomotive, or just use it as delivered without any control.

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#31 Posted : 29 November 2022 19:54:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
It is possible to install a function decoder to control the lightings effect in the wagon set.


Yeah, but with the wagon set almost as much as the loco why didn't they include a decoder in there?

Personally I'm not a fan of controlling the coach lights from the loco.


an option I would like to see, is that wagon sets are prepared for a decoder and to receive power from a locomotive, then the customer can decide if they want to plug in a decoder, control it from a locomotive, or just use it as delivered without any control.



I suspect the problem with that is that the wagon with the pickup shoe, which is the one to which you would fit a decoder, is at the far end of the train to the loco, because it is also the wagon with the tail lights.

At least if it was done the way the King William set was done, it would be possible to individually control each coach, but with mfx decoders it is not possible to have multiple decoders on the same address, but it could be done with FX decoders.

Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#32 Posted : 29 November 2022 21:16:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: applor Go to Quoted Post
Exciting news for us modelling era3a if this is true!

The standard design 30 and 36 wagons have long been missing in 50's livery for such a common wagon type after the war.
Hopefully Marklin have done the standard design type 30 wagons true to form! Previously only Roco have released the type 36 for era3a, though with incorrect windows from the type 30 mould.

Marklin had already released a 01.10 for era3a but it had the old noisey DCM motor (37104 Bellingrodt edition) so would have preferred a BR01 with Witte deflectors for era3a since they are non-existent until Brawa release theirs in a few months. Still happy for a new 01.10 with quiet motor though!


This caught my eye- what is era IIIa? Of course I can guess early era III, but I'm curious what defines it?

FS + SBB Era 2-5 and Vintage Marklin
Offline kiwiAlan  
#33 Posted : 29 November 2022 21:46:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: applor Go to Quoted Post
Exciting news for us modelling era3a if this is true!

The standard design 30 and 36 wagons have long been missing in 50's livery for such a common wagon type after the war.
Hopefully Marklin have done the standard design type 30 wagons true to form! Previously only Roco have released the type 36 for era3a, though with incorrect windows from the type 30 mould.

Marklin had already released a 01.10 for era3a but it had the old noisey DCM motor (37104 Bellingrodt edition) so would have preferred a BR01 with Witte deflectors for era3a since they are non-existent until Brawa release theirs in a few months. Still happy for a new 01.10 with quiet motor though!


This caught my eye- what is era IIIa? Of course I can guess early era III, but I'm curious what defines it?



If you read the description on the loco product page it gives a pretty good idea of the distinction.
Offline kiwiAlan  
#34 Posted : 29 November 2022 21:52:32(UTC)
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I have to wonder how prices are going. The Z Gauge and MiniTrix Insider and Proficlub models are almost as expensive as the marklin/Trix H0 models.

Offline H0  
#35 Posted : 29 November 2022 22:24:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
This caught my eye- what is era IIIa? Of course I can guess early era III, but I'm curious what defines it?
Eras are defined by NEM.
Era IIIa is about 1945 to 1955 - the time before the DB cookie, the time with double headlights, the time with three classes in coaches.

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Offline applor  
#36 Posted : 29 November 2022 23:07:21(UTC)
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Now that the website has been updated I can see the details of what is on offer. Love the BR01.10 especially since they chose the version without front apron.
I do like the transverse surface preheater on the smoke box which is also on my Roco 03.10 (69281)

I mis-read Johns original post about the wagons and thought they would be group 30 eilzug wagons but are in fact group 29 express wagons.
I am still happy with the wagons since the group 29 wagons have typically only been offered in steel blue 2nd class as F-train wagons (ie AB4üe-28/52) and not in the standard bottle green with 1st/2nd/3rd class.

Also, looks like total length is 178.7cm (151 + 27.7)

Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
This caught my eye- what is era IIIa? Of course I can guess early era III, but I'm curious what defines it?
Eras are defined by NEM.
Era IIIa is about 1945 to 1955 - the time before the DB cookie, the time with double headlights, the time with three classes in coaches.




1949 founding of the Deutsche Bundesbahn to June 1956 when 2nd/3rd class were changed to 1st/2nd. An explanation for those interested regarding the wagons classes in this set:

During this time period domestic trains were 2nd or 3rd class only. 1st class was offered for international trains only, however the same wagons were used they just changed the class.
Therefore you will only see 2nd class for the steel blue premium F-trains since they only ran domestic while you will find 1st class in standard express (d-zug) trains since they ran across borders - such as this set.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#37 Posted : 29 November 2022 23:24:34(UTC)
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Nice!
But wagon set at €579,00...!?
And there is no decoder to switch lighting off/on and red tail lights either too as digital function.
No info about the new wagon light with the capacitor.

Confused


I understand many modellers will think Märklin have somehow downgraded this Insider model offering.

Please think of it this way.
You will be able to use the coach set with any locomotive, not just the BR01.10.
For some modellers the availability of this coach set in new tooling for era IIIa is welcome.
And you do not need to spend double the money to get the locomotive as well.

As others mention, installation of a decoder in the coach set can be done by a dealer or the modeller.
I would like to buy this coach set in 1930s livery.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#38 Posted : 30 November 2022 08:29:36(UTC)
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Hello,
Did I hear correctly in the video that Märklin have reduced the depth of the flanges for this locomotive #39760?

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Offline mbarreto  
#39 Posted : 30 November 2022 09:07:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Hello,
Did I hear correctly in the video that Märklin have reduced the depth of the flanges for this locomotive #39760?

Kimball


They say the wheel flange in the 39760 is 1.1mm.
Usually, Märklin flanges are and were bigger, but I think the 2022 Insider BR06 wheel flanges are already smaller than usual like the ones they are announcing for the BR01.10.

NEM 310 and 311 for 16.5 mm gauge allow a flange height from 0.6 mm to 1.2 mm
(source: http://www.modelbanetekn...k/model/stnd/afsp-e.htm)

Regards,
Miguel





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Offline bph  
#40 Posted : 30 November 2022 18:11:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
It is possible to install a function decoder to control the lightings effect in the wagon set.


Yeah, but with the wagon set almost as much as the loco why didn't they include a decoder in there?

Personally I'm not a fan of controlling the coach lights from the loco.


an option I would like to see, is that wagon sets are prepared for a decoder and to receive power from a locomotive, then the customer can decide if they want to plug in a decoder, control it from a locomotive, or just use it as delivered without any control.



I suspect the problem with that is that the wagon with the pickup shoe, which is the one to which you would fit a decoder, is at the far end of the train to the loco, because it is also the wagon with the tail lights.

At least if it was done the way the King William set was done, it would be possible to individually control each coach, but with mfx decoders it is not possible to have multiple decoders on the same address, but it could be done with FX decoders.



E.g the Rheingold set 41929 is ready for a 21pin decoder. (ref the manual).

But with standard couplings, the options are a bit limited. So personally, I'm happy to turn on everting from the locomotive. (yes I know there are other good options out there). Sometimes I just leave the pickup on and just use a set without the wagon with a pickup shoe, when I use it together with a locomotive that has a current conducting coupler.

Could there be suitable space for a decoder and possibly a speaker in the new 42529 ?.judging from the pictures, if it is it's probably going to be tight if Marklin has not made a dedicated space.
one thing I do notice is that it seems to have the same end light lanterns as 42265, and the 42265 was delivered without visible lantern wires, despite that the product pages show quite visible vires.
the 42529 prototype sows also have visible wires, but they are not visible in the product drawing "photos". the lanterns in the product drawing "photos" are missing the red/white markings on the side.


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Offline H0  
#41 Posted : 01 December 2022 09:41:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
NEM 310 and 311 for 16.5 mm gauge allow a flange height from 0.6 mm to 1.2 mm
NEM 340 "allows" 1.35 mm.
The small flanges sometimes lead to locos that drop into the frogs of turnouts. This has been criticized for the BR 06 and the Albatros already.

Regards
Tom
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Offline mbarreto  
#42 Posted : 01 December 2022 11:56:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post

NEM 340 "allows" 1.35 mm.
The small flanges sometimes lead to locos that drop into the frogs of turnouts. This has been criticized for the BR 06 and the Albatros already.



Hello,
I understand the criticism and, although that flange size looks good, it is indeed in the limits of what is acceptable for a confortable locmotive ride.
At eye inspection (I have no measures) it seems that the Albatros flanges are slightly higher and still look very good to the eye.
My experience is the Albatros is not so sensible (I have both), although the BR06 also runs ok in C track. Just a bit more sensible, for example to put it on the track.
Although I have not tested it, probably M track is not a good idea to run these locomotives.

Regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline franciscohg  
#43 Posted : 01 December 2022 17:13:22(UTC)
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Well, i must say that my Albatross and my BR06 runs pretty well on my M track layout.
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Offline bph  
#44 Posted : 01 December 2022 22:22:31(UTC)
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In the latest Insider magazine (6.22) there is more information about the locomotive. (available online)
the flange height of 1,1mm is also mentioned there.
personally, I would have preferred that they had not reduced the flange height, since I'm running on K and M track.....
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#45 Posted : 02 December 2022 01:08:39(UTC)
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re: neu-maerklin-42529-schnellzugwagen-set-einheitsbauart-1928-1930-insider-modell-2023

Originally Posted by: applor Go to Quoted Post

... eilzug wagons but are in fact group 29 express wagons.
I am happy with the wagons since the group 29 wagons have typically only been offered in steel blue 2nd class as F-train wagons (ie AB4üe-28/52) and not in the standard bottle green with 1st/2nd/3rd class.

Also, looks like total length is 178.7cm (151 + 27.7)
......


Yes I think this is a nice new tooled offering from Märklin.
I will also wait for some of these coaches to be offered in an era II livery.

Lima have done some I believe, although with a goose-necked (Pennsy style) bogie.
They were done for era II and probably for the DB era with kecks (biscuit) logo on the side.

I have an era II Lima set of 1926 builds (Set 149762) and the baggage is Pw4ü-29 as in the 42529 set but with the different bogies.
Kimball

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Offline kimballthurlow  
#46 Posted : 02 December 2022 05:12:01(UTC)
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This is one of the best prepared photographs done by Märklin recently (IMHO).
The background is very realistic and you can almost feel the power and speed of the train as it passes.

42529 with 39760
The in-focus depth of field is well done for the whole train.
I like to achnowledge these gems from Märklin because the team deserves praise from time to time.
The overall capability and commitment of that company is as good as any.

A couple of Preiser trackside photographers may have enhanced it (for a time when that was not really a big safety issue).

Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline PJMärklin  
#47 Posted : 02 December 2022 12:02:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
. … The background is very realistic …


Hello Kimball,

Then how come my smoke units do not produce smoke like that ? OhMyGod

and I have some great “smokers “ amongst them! Wink

Agree a nice image though.


Regards and best wishes for Christmas,

Philip. BigGrin

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#48 Posted : 02 December 2022 12:53:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PJMärklin Go to Quoted Post

Then how come my smoke units do not produce smoke like that ? OhMyGod


That is because you are using the wrong colour smoke in your airbrush ... BigGrin Blushing

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Offline kimballthurlow  
#49 Posted : 02 December 2022 22:50:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PJMärklin Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
. … The background is very realistic …


Hello Kimball,

Then how come my smoke units do not produce smoke like that ? OhMyGod

and I have some great “smokers “ amongst them! Wink

Agree a nice image though.


Regards and best wishes for Christmas,

Philip. BigGrin



Hello Philip,
A happy Christmas to you and family.

I just love these model-maker images, they certainly incentivise the buying experience.
I am still just a kid when it comes to model trains.

regards
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline applor  
#50 Posted : 03 December 2022 01:31:37(UTC)
applor

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Hi all,

So do we have any insider members here who definitely will not be purchasing the locomotive and wagons and would be most kind as to be willing to share their insider for me to purchase?

If you'd be willing to help me out please send me a PM with your insider number and the order code with the three digits.

Thanks so much!
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