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Marklineisenbahn		#1 Posted : 11 July 2022 16:58:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 311 Location: New York City		Hallo Dreileiters, I have a question if any of you have more information about this Bavarian layout ? I'm especially interested in track plan / hidden stagging yard underneath! It’s very tempting indeed and having plans available will save me a lot of drafting & erasing. [ I do not use computer generated programs- I am old school pencil & paper] so can anyone help ??? Regards, Märklineisenbahn

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Jimmy Thompson		#2 Posted : 11 July 2022 18:26:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/03/2019(UTC) Posts: 898 Location: Florida Classic but Successful Swampland City		Well, I think that it is a simple folded dog bone (?) design with no hidden staging underneath unless you send a hidden spur off under the castle on the lower loop. However, I am as always open to correction.
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Jimmy Thompson		#3 Posted : 11 July 2022 20:59:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/03/2019(UTC) Posts: 898 Location: Florida Classic but Successful Swampland City		Also, if we are talking HO, this is still fairly large layout, although it seems compressed.
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kiwiAlan		#4 Posted : 11 July 2022 23:35:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,700 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: Jimmy Thompson Also, if we are talking HO, this is still fairly large layout, although it seems compressed. Would be a good way to use all those 24130 curves from start sets though ... Alsterstreek is well versed in doing this ...

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Alsterstreek		#5 Posted : 12 July 2022 10:18:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 6,070 Location: Hybrid Home		Originally Posted by: Marklineisenbahn I have a question if any of you have more information about this Bavarian layout ? Could you indicate where you found this image? That would ease the search. As you mention "Bavarian", it seems as if you have some more information, since such a scenery could be anywhere in the "southern hemisphere" of Germany. The drawing looks like a work by one of the "classic" German MRR magazine illustrators. Unfortunately, I cannot decipher the initials on the right side of the drawing. Originally Posted by: Marklineisenbahn I'm especially interested in track plan / hidden stagging yard underneath! These "classic" illustrations tend to be overoptimistic, so I would not expect too much regarding hidden staging. Maybe this Stummiforum track plan thread on the compact multi-level KAKTUS (= "Klein-Anlagen-Konzept-Testbetrieb-Und-Spielgeeignet" = small-layout-concept-test-operation-and-play-suitable) concept might be of interest in this context - please scroll down for finding all illustrations: https://www.stummiforum....ge-quot-KAKTUS-quot.html
		Greetz - Ak My current "layout": https://www.marklin-user...aigne-Project#post592818

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kiwiAlan		#6 Posted : 12 July 2022 18:49:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,700 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Originally Posted by: Marklineisenbahn I have a question if any of you have more information about this Bavarian layout ? ... The drawing looks like a work by one of the "classic" German MRR magazine illustrators. Unfortunately, I cannot decipher the initials on the right side of the drawing. When I first saw it i thought it was done by one of the 'classic' English magazine illustrators. There is one very prolific guy who has many books and magazine plans with similar style of drawing that I initially assumed had drawn it. I would also be interested to find out where the illustration came from.

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Jimmy Thompson		#7 Posted : 12 July 2022 19:21:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/03/2019(UTC) Posts: 898 Location: Florida Classic but Successful Swampland City		Here it is: http://www.guidetozscale.com/html/the_dream.html Near the bottom of the page "In 2004, Trix would revisit the track plan book with a new edition, their No. 69012. In so many ways, it shows the progress of 25 years. Here, a round layout, measuring 110 cm (44”) in diameter" Mini-Trix N-scale...
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Jimmy Thompson		#8 Posted : 12 July 2022 19:55:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/03/2019(UTC) Posts: 898 Location: Florida Classic but Successful Swampland City		And low and behold Pages 48-49 (56-57 on this pdf) https://streaming.maerkl...12_Minitrix_Ratgeber.pdf And we find that "Perspektivische Zeichnungen: Reinhold Barkhoff"
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Marklineisenbahn		#9 Posted : 12 July 2022 23:40:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 311 Location: New York City		Originally Posted by: Jimmy Thompson And low and behold Pages 48-49 (56-57 on this pdf) https://streaming.maerkl...12_Minitrix_Ratgeber.pdf And we find that "Perspektivische Zeichnungen: Reinhold Barkhoff" Hallo Dreileiters, Good Day Jimmy T, Actually you made my day Sir! I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for all your help - for taking time to reply and provide pdf plan- what a good deed.Truly appreciated on this end. 😊 I knew I can count on members help on this forum! My Bests, Respectfully… Märklineisenbahn

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Alsterstreek		#10 Posted : 13 July 2022 10:14:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 6,070 Location: Hybrid Home		Nice Barkhoff study, which in the end it turns out to be a twisted oval without hidden staging. P.S,: Bavaria finds no mention. P.P.S.: Moreover, the publication is a good source of inspiration.
		Greetz - Ak My current "layout": https://www.marklin-user...aigne-Project#post592818

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Jimmy Thompson		#11 Posted : 13 July 2022 11:37:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/03/2019(UTC) Posts: 898 Location: Florida Classic but Successful Swampland City		Märklineisenbahn, You are most welcome! Always glad to help where I can! We are definitely "Kindred Spirits" Alsterstreek, It certainly is a tribute to Barkhoff's talent! P. S. I was thinking...one could possibly put a point in at "A" in that wee tunnel on the track plan and run it down to a hidden holding yard following the same rise angle as the outside track of the oval (somewhat "helix-like"), but then you are tied to mostly curved lines for holding trains, although that is a minor hindrance. Edited by user 13 July 2022 15:01:36(UTC) \| Reason: Add P. S.
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