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Offline Soest  
#1 Posted : 08 March 2022 19:00:54(UTC)
Soest


Joined: 05/09/2009(UTC)
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Location: Ottawa, Ontario
342J international dining car

Marklin catalogues identify this wagon as blue. However the one that I have is green, from my colour perception, with a greyish green roof. The post war versions are blue, generally with cast bogies that fall apart. Mine has pressed steel bogies and bugle couplers, although there is some sign that it might have had claw couplers at one time. Any ideas?

Mike
Why do grown men play with trains?
Their wives insist they are insane
But their dreams they won't let down the drain
'Cause there ain't no thing so hard to lose as those disappearing railway blues.
Offline cookee_nz  
#2 Posted : 08 March 2022 23:50:12(UTC)
cookee_nz

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Location: Paremata, Wellington
Hi Mike,

Your image is not displaying, perhaps check the link or upload again.

To your actual question, there has been discussion elsewhere that might explain this. Some of those coaches were coated with a clear lacquer after painting and over time this becomes discoloured, giving results much as you describe.

It appears to more influenced by exposure to UV light. As I understand it, only areas that are exposed change colour. Have you removed the roof and checked the paint in areas that would normally be covered?

Also folded over tabs, insides of the end-vestibules etc?

Some images of those areas would be helpful

Cheers

Cookee
Cookee
Wellington
NZ image
Offline Soest  
#3 Posted : 09 March 2022 05:14:24(UTC)
Soest


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Thanks for your reply, Cookee. I have tried twice to upload the image without success. I checked under the roof and the colour is the same. So the mystery continues.

Mike
Why do grown men play with trains?
Their wives insist they are insane
But their dreams they won't let down the drain
'Cause there ain't no thing so hard to lose as those disappearing railway blues.
Offline Soest  
#4 Posted : 09 March 2022 05:19:08(UTC)
Soest


Joined: 05/09/2009(UTC)
Posts: 201
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
20220307_165916.jpgMaybe this time.
Why do grown men play with trains?
Their wives insist they are insane
But their dreams they won't let down the drain
'Cause there ain't no thing so hard to lose as those disappearing railway blues.
Offline cookee_nz  
#5 Posted : 09 March 2022 05:36:49(UTC)
cookee_nz

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Location: Paremata, Wellington
That image came through ok.

Check this thread..... - https://www.altemodellba...in-J-Identifikation.html (you will need to be a member to read that thread - some are members only)

It discusses exactly the model and problem you describe
Cookee
Wellington
NZ image
Offline Soest  
#6 Posted : 10 March 2022 18:44:28(UTC)
Soest


Joined: 05/09/2009(UTC)
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Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Thanks, Cookee.

Mike
Why do grown men play with trains?
Their wives insist they are insane
But their dreams they won't let down the drain
'Cause there ain't no thing so hard to lose as those disappearing railway blues.
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