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kimballthurlow		#1 Posted : 29 December 2021 01:51:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,668 Location: Brisbane, Australia		Since 2019 Märklin have released 5 locomotive models representing some residing in museums across Europe. The latest is the BR17 37197. I know of one other museum representative locomotive, an E91 #33291 produced in 1997. Does any one know if there were a series of, or other museum models? Many thanks in advance. Kimball
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kiwiAlan		#2 Posted : 29 December 2021 12:34:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,103 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Since 2019 Märklin have released 5 locomotive models representing some residing in museums across Europe. The latest is the BR17 37197. I know of one other museum representative locomotive, an E91 #33291 produced in 1997. Does any one know if there were a series of, or other museum models? Many thanks in advance. Kimball You should be able to pick up the others by going through the New Items brochures. I think the 1997 one was the first. Also don't confuse them with the Carl Bellingrodt series that have the same display cabinet, or the 150 years marklin that had five locos in one year, all from different countries, also in the same display cabinet.

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rhfil		#3 Posted : 29 December 2021 14:33:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/09/2014(UTC) Posts: 426 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE, Somersworth		I have always wondered why Marklin adds a second epoch to the Museum locos. As an example the 37197 is described as II and VI. The II is obviously the era it was first put in use, described as 1932, but what is the VI? Is it the era of restoration? Why even include it?

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torhb		#4 Posted : 29 December 2021 18:09:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2001(UTC) Posts: 41 Location: Oppegård,		Originally Posted by: rhfil I have always wondered why Marklin adds a second epoch to the Museum locos. As an example the 37197 is described as II and VI. The II is obviously the era it was first put in use, described as 1932, but what is the VI? Is it the era of restoration? Why even include it? Hi. I would say that era VI is obvious. The Märklin museum loks usually are models of the locomotives as they are at the museums just now (era VI). This may or may not be the same as the loks were when they first were put in service (era II). Thus, the era II designation may be more questionable in my opinion. Regards Tor.
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torhb		#5 Posted : 29 December 2021 18:30:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2001(UTC) Posts: 41 Location: Oppegård,		Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Since 2019 Märklin have released 5 locomotive models representing some residing in museums across Europe. The latest is the BR17 37197. I know of one other museum representative locomotive, an E91 #33291 produced in 1997. Does any one know if there were a series of, or other museum models? Many thanks in advance. Kimball Hi Kimball. The BR 01 150 is not part of a series of museum locomotives but has been issued two times. In 2008 it was released as an Insider model representing how it was before the museum fire in Nürnberg in October 2005 (model no 39013 era V). In 2011 it was released again, but now as it looked after the restauration (model no 39017 era VI). Regards Tor.
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rhfil		#6 Posted : 29 December 2021 21:25:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/09/2014(UTC) Posts: 426 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE, Somersworth		The literature with the 37917 reportedly states that the locomotive looks as it did in 1932. So why not call it an era II? Plus if it is a "restoration" should not that require adherence to the original physical condition? Did locomotives not receive modifications during their service? Is Marklin really sure that any locomotive model it produces does not have a modification which appeared in a later era?

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kimballthurlow		#7 Posted : 29 December 2021 22:40:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,668 Location: Brisbane, Australia		Thanks all for the replies. That is helpful. Regarding the era designation promoted by Märklin I believe it is up to the discrimination of each modeller (collector) as to how he/she reads and understands it. Take the E19 39193. As explained by other contributions to this forum, some of the paint detail on the museum loco was actually used on a different series of 1930s E19. And the model replicates the current museum detail. Compare with the 39192 which is possibly correct for era II. Maybe the 37197 does look as it did in 1932. Märklin can only follow what is in existence - it is what it is. For that reason Märklin can and probably do take advice from their own documentation department and the museum "experts". Kimball
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kimballthurlow		#8 Posted : 29 December 2021 22:45:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,668 Location: Brisbane, Australia		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan ... You should be able to pick up the others by going through the New Items brochures. I think the 1997 one was the first. Also don't confuse them with the Carl Bellingrodt series that have the same display cabinet, or the 150 years marklin that had five locos in one year, all from different countries, also in the same display cabinet. Hello Alan, Of the current museum Loks series, I have only the 39193 and it certainly does not come with a display cabinet. Which is a shame. A case would have been nice. I do have only the 37054 Bellingrodt series with a cabinet, and I like that. I am surprised that Hornby don't do something similar for a British photographer, but may be difficult to pick from such a huge number. Kimball
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