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Offline river6109  
#1 Posted : 21 September 2021 09:52:13(UTC)
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I like to thank Peter Clapcott for providing a website link (Proops Brothers Ltd. UK) regarding micro drills, the drill set has arrived today with 19 micro drills at a total cost of £ 6.50, (order date 9th Sept.2021) free delivery to Australia, its cheaper than buying it from J-car.

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Offline Ranjit  
#2 Posted : 21 September 2021 11:43:11(UTC)
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Hey John... What sizes of micro drill bits did you get, and what is the make and model number ?

Cheers,
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Offline river6109  
#3 Posted : 21 September 2021 12:01:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ranjit Go to Quoted Post
Hey John... What sizes of micro drill bits did you get, and what is the make and model number ?

Cheers,
Ranjit


Ranjit, thanks for your inquiry ut I don't know what brand they are, have a look at the website and go for micro drills, let me know how uyou get on

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Offline Drongo  
#4 Posted : 21 September 2021 12:24:15(UTC)
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Hi John, from my experience with these drill bits, I would have ordered at least 2 sets - they break so easily.

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Offline river6109  
#5 Posted : 21 September 2021 12:30:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Drongo Go to Quoted Post
Hi John, from my experience with these drill bits, I would have ordered at least 2 sets - they break so easily.

Regards
Greg


Greg, seeing it is free postage I always can do this when they start breaking, they are very tiny and I assume some of them are not bigger than 0.5mm but I wouldn't use them with a drill but rather drill them by hand., I had some from China a while ago and they did break easly, the ones from J-car were of a better quality and what I've seen the ones from the UK they look ok.

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Offline xxup  
#6 Posted : 21 September 2021 12:44:21(UTC)
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Yep. They are only meant for hand-drilling softer materials. Nothing harder than Aluminium in my opinion. They are more suited to plastic materials.
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Offline Ranjit  
#7 Posted : 21 September 2021 13:01:30(UTC)
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Do you use a pin vise or a mini hand drill to use these micro drill bits ?

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Offline Toosmall  
#8 Posted : 21 September 2021 15:19:27(UTC)
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In Australia, Sutton Tools, from a proper hardware/engineering supplier (Not the big blue store).

Page 17 smalls drills down to 0.34mm in packs of 10.

https://suttontools.s3-a...9_IPDCatalogueDrills.pdf



Use a pin vice and cutting fluid.
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Offline Ranjit  
#9 Posted : 21 September 2021 17:17:44(UTC)
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Hi John...

Is it the "20 Piece Micro Metric HSS Twist Drills & 4 Way Pin Vice (M0278)" that you purchased from Proops Bros. for £ 6.50 ?

Cheers,
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Offline river6109  
#10 Posted : 21 September 2021 17:30:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ranjit Go to Quoted Post
Hi John...

Is it the "20 Piece Micro Metric HSS Twist Drills & 4 Way Pin Vice (M0278)" that you purchased from Proops Bros. for £ 6.50 ?

Cheers,
Ranjit


exactly

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Offline Ranjit  
#11 Posted : 21 September 2021 17:38:34(UTC)
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Thank you, John ! Good night !

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Offline Toosmall  
#12 Posted : 22 September 2021 01:56:04(UTC)
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The 1/8" shaft drill bits for a Dremel etc are really good for extra precision. Don't buy the Chinese rubbish.


If tapping very small threads, start with a taper tap, even if it's only through a sheet, use the correct cutting fluid for the metal, I can't stress enough that enough.

Very small threads are an absolute pain in the neck, you need to take it very slowly and unwind tap every eighth of a turn, even a sixteenth, and best to unwind and clear the hole completely and reapply cutting fluid..

If you are not in the mood for the task, leave it for another day as you will break the tap in the hole and then your problems start!

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#13 Posted : 15 November 2021 18:56:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ranjit Go to Quoted Post
Hi John...

Is it the "20 Piece Micro Metric HSS Twist Drills & 4 Way Pin Vice (M0278)" that you purchased from Proops Bros. for £ 6.50 ?

Cheers,
Ranjit


I have just been searching through their website and it looks like they don't have any micro drills any more ... Crying Crying Crying

Offline Bigdaddynz  
#14 Posted : 15 November 2021 21:33:09(UTC)
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That's cos Ranjit and River have bought them all!

Must be something to do with the letter 'R'.....
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Offline Tom Jessop  
#15 Posted : 15 November 2021 21:53:03(UTC)
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Looks like i will have to hide my stash of Proops drills from other southern hemisphere inhabitants .
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Offline PJMärklin  
#16 Posted : 15 November 2021 22:07:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
That's cos Ranjit and River have bought them all!

Must be something to do with the letter 'R'.....

I also happily helped deplete stock BigGrin

After seeing John’s post #1 I bought two (different) sets from the brothers Proop for a good price. Postage at the grand cost of two dollars and arrived quite timely. I am very pleased with them.
Thanks again to John (and Peter)ThumpUp

PJ
Offline DTaylor91  
#17 Posted : 16 November 2021 01:24:47(UTC)
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For those looking for durable micro-drill bits: I suggest searching for the type that are designed for drilling circuit boards. Use in a small drill press at LOW RPMs

Offline river6109  
#18 Posted : 16 November 2021 04:15:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: xxup Go to Quoted Post
Yep. They are only meant for hand-drilling softer materials. Nothing harder than Aluminium in my opinion. They are more suited to plastic materials.


these drills are ok with white metal and of course a handdrill which came with the order

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