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Offline xpsensation  
#1 Posted : 05 February 2021 00:16:27(UTC)
xpsensation

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Hi folks , I have the following BR182 out of the ACTROS starter set i got back in 2006ish. Anyone know what decoder this is.

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I would like to update the decoder and add sound (I am generally OK with the motor performance) . If I went with an ESU LokSound 5, does anyone know if I would go with a

LokSound 5 DCC Direct

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or

with one of the variants (ESU 58410 HO) of the LokSound 5

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In either case I assume i would de-solder the wires from the existing decoder and onto the new one.

Thanks
Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 05 February 2021 09:16:16(UTC)
H0


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Hi!
That's a Märklin 6090x decoder on a special for for the BR 182. Most likely the resistors for the LED lights are also on the decoder board.
Most people make a small PCB that connects the new decoder with the loco. Don't forget the resistors.
Regards
Tom
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Offline xpsensation  
#3 Posted : 05 February 2021 22:04:47(UTC)
xpsensation

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Thanks so much Tom.
Offline Dave Banks  
#4 Posted : 05 February 2021 23:09:38(UTC)
Dave Banks

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Hello Phil, many moons ago when all we had was ESU Loksound V3.5 decoders I did the following to BR152 "Fulda Taurus"

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Offline xpsensation  
#5 Posted : 06 February 2021 15:00:19(UTC)
xpsensation

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Location: Nova Scotia, Middle Sackville
hi Dave, so did you wire everything up into an 8pin and then buy an 8 pin decoder? Very clean looking work.

Thanks
Offline Dave Banks  
#6 Posted : 06 February 2021 22:41:36(UTC)
Dave Banks

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Yes that was about the sum total of it. Like I said that was the decoders of choice at that time. Now you get 21 pin decoders from the likes of this company that make life so much easier: http://luessi.ch/eshop/oc/index.php

I believe this might be the answer for you. You get to choose which 21 pin sound decoder you like BigGrin
http://luessi.ch/eshop/oc/decoder-pcbs?product_id=2449
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Offline dickinsonj  
#7 Posted : 07 February 2021 02:27:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dave Banks Go to Quoted Post

I believe this might be the answer for you.


That is a really good choice. I think that Luessi is an under appreciated and very special resource for digital railroaders.

Their boards have saved me more than once with their OEM and clever retrofit solutions. BigGrin

Install that and you can do whatever you want as far as a decoder, and change it as many times as you want with no rewiring.

Using that would make the upgrade easier and more functional. A definite win win. ThumpUp ThumpUp
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline river6109  
#8 Posted : 07 February 2021 06:12:31(UTC)
river6109

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Definitely a good choice but when you look at the price, this wouldn't be a choice for me, doing a circuit board yourself isn't that hard to do and with an 8 pin connector being installed into the new circuit board isn't that hard either, but you need some skills to do it., using smd leds its only naturally, you use smd resistors as well which reduces the size considerable.
When you add up all the cost involved you sometimes can buy a new loco for this price (SF 59.50). this type of conversion wouldn't cost me more than 5.00 Swiss Franks and with these savings I've already saved half the price of a sound decoder

John
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