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Offline Goofy  
#1 Posted : 19 January 2020 07:40:05(UTC)
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It seems CS3 will not upgrade for a while so long as the new digital book are not arrived out yet?
I suppose we owner to the CS3 will have to wait at least 6-7 months to another next upgrade?
Offline siroljuk  
#2 Posted : 19 January 2020 07:52:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
It seems CS3 will not upgrade for a while so long as the new digital book are not arrived out yet?
I suppose we owner to the CS3 will have to wait at least 6-7 months to another next upgrade?


Hi Goofy, is there anything special you will wait for? Or something still not working? My CS3Plus is working fine and I think it is already quite ready.RollEyes RollEyes

Regards

Jukka
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Offline Goofy  
#3 Posted : 19 January 2020 08:43:38(UTC)
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What do you mean?
Märklin will always upgrade system when there is something to download.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#4 Posted : 19 January 2020 09:02:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
What do you mean?
Märklin will always upgrade system when there is something to download.


What do you mean?

You have just contradicted yourself, on the one hand you say Marklin will always upgrade the system when there is something to download (upgrade??) then you said it would be 6 to 7 months before the next upgrade.

Which is it??

To my way of thinking this topic is a non event and pointless nonsense - Marklin will upgrade the CS3 when they see a need to, not on Goofy's timetable.
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Offline David Dewar  
#5 Posted : 19 January 2020 14:59:59(UTC)
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Had CS3 PLus for more than a year and not upgraded. No need at present as it does what I want. What is the rush to change what you already have.
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Offline Goofy  
#6 Posted : 19 January 2020 17:28:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
What do you mean?
Märklin will always upgrade system when there is something to download.


What do you mean?

You have just contradicted yourself, on the one hand you say Marklin will always upgrade the system when there is something to download (upgrade??) then you said it would be 6 to 7 months before the next upgrade.

Which is it??

To my way of thinking this topic is a non event and pointless nonsense - Marklin will upgrade the CS3 when they see a need to, not on Goofy's timetable.


The problem are the new digital book which present version 2.0.
Under that time before Märklin arrive out the book, there is no upgrade for the system which Märklin will not waste of time by produce the new digital book.
It´s just like same about somebody who did present new CD-rom with the version 1.3.3!
This CD-rom are waste to buy it.
Next time Märklin upgrade to higher version, do you buy another new digital book present for the new upgraded version?? Confused

Offline kgsjoqvist  
#7 Posted : 19 January 2020 21:32:56(UTC)
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The software upgrade is already available. You don`t need the book for upgrading...
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Offline Purellum  
#8 Posted : 20 January 2020 00:04:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
both CS2 and the Ecos is not complete system,since they still can upgrades which also means they are not ready complete system to use.


Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
If you really want system works everything,then there is no reason to upgrades all the times.
And yes you have sometimes bugs too and have to wait until responsible do fix it.
That´s way i mean not complete system.


Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Hopefully this time complete system without to have upgrade program.


This is some of the things you wrote when you didn't have a CS3................. LOL

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#9 Posted : 20 January 2020 06:46:16(UTC)
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Methinks Per has a list of Goofy quotes for quick reference.....Wink

This whole upgrade issue is no different to the issue Microsoft has with Windows. Their software upgrades have always been ahead of the printed documentation, although Microsoft do keep their online documentation up to date fairly well. Maybe that's where Marklin should be looking to house Central Station and other documentation.

I haven't seen the new CS3 book, but I wonder if it is just a collation of articles that have already appeared in the Marklin Magazine.
Offline Goofy  
#10 Posted : 20 January 2020 09:56:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kgsjoqvist Go to Quoted Post
The software upgrade is already available. You don`t need the book for upgrading...


The new digital book are reference to version 2.0 for use of CS3.

Offline Goofy  
#11 Posted : 20 January 2020 09:58:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Purellum Go to Quoted Post


Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
both CS2 and the Ecos is not complete system,since they still can upgrades which also means they are not ready complete system to use.


Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
If you really want system works everything,then there is no reason to upgrades all the times.
And yes you have sometimes bugs too and have to wait until responsible do fix it.
That´s way i mean not complete system.


Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Hopefully this time complete system without to have upgrade program.


This is some of the things you wrote when you didn't have a CS3.................

Per.



Yes?
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Offline Goofy  
#12 Posted : 20 January 2020 10:04:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Methinks Per has a list of Goofy quotes for quick reference.....Wink

This whole upgrade issue is no different to the issue Microsoft has with Windows. Their software upgrades have always been ahead of the printed documentation, although Microsoft do keep their online documentation up to date fairly well. Maybe that's where Marklin should be looking to house Central Station and other documentation.

I haven't seen the new CS3 book, but I wonder if it is just a collation of articles that have already appeared in the Marklin Magazine.


The problem with the CS3 takes longer time to wait for upgrades.
You cannot get new upgrades so long as the new digital book has not been arrived out to the market.
I wonder too if this is normal for customer by wait so long time to upgrade the system?
What exactly are Märklin doing?
The new digital book is only reference to version 2.0.


Offline David Dewar  
#13 Posted : 20 January 2020 11:59:28(UTC)
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Anybody know what these upgrades are and why must I have them. What should come first .. a book or an upgrade. The book I have covers my current CS3 Plus so that will do me for the foreseeable future.
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Offline Goofy  
#14 Posted : 20 January 2020 14:06:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
Anybody know what these upgrades are and why must I have them. What should come first .. a book or an upgrade. The book I have covers my current CS3 Plus so that will do me for the foreseeable future.


The manual of the CS3 are still same and Märklin has not even upgraded manual.
I watch sometimes CS3 in the Youtube present by Märklin to check after tip.
But theirs video is not so much good information that cover all questions about CS3.
Hopefully the new digital book will cover all questions with the answers about new version 2.0.

Offline eduard71  
#15 Posted : 20 January 2020 17:17:38(UTC)
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I wonder when will be a digital book trasnlated to English. Confused
Offline Copenhagen  
#16 Posted : 20 January 2020 17:57:16(UTC)
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There is information about the changes in version 2.0 on this page:
https://www.maerklin.de/...e/downloads/cs3-updates/

And then there is this thread:
https://www.marklin-user...--to-v2-0-0-1--13Dec2019
Offline kiwiAlan  
#17 Posted : 20 January 2020 18:51:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: eduard71 Go to Quoted Post
I wonder when will be a digital book trasnlated to English. Confused


Which book specifically?

Marklin have several books on digital that have been translated into English. The most recent is the one on the cs3 (unfortunately they don't seem to like the English version any more) that deals with software revisions before version 2, which the new book just announced in the new items brochure handles. A new version of the book is being produced as the version 2 software has introduced some significant changes.
Offline eduard71  
#18 Posted : 22 January 2020 14:55:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: eduard71 Go to Quoted Post
I wonder when will be a digital book trasnlated to English. Confused


Which book specifically?

Marklin have several books on digital that have been translated into English. The most recent is the one on the cs3 (unfortunately they don't seem to like the English version any more) that deals with software revisions before version 2, which the new book just announced in the new items brochure handles. A new version of the book is being produced as the version 2 software has introduced some significant changes.



Hi,

Book "Entry into Märklin Digital"Item No. 03081

Digital driving with CS3 (Software 1.x) Item No. 03082

Digital control with CS3 software 2.0 and higher Art.No. 03083

All of them are available only in german, or have they been trasnlated to English? in that case where can I found them?

Regards

Offline kiwiAlan  
#19 Posted : 22 January 2020 18:22:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: eduard71 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: eduard71 Go to Quoted Post
I wonder when will be a digital book trasnlated to English. Confused


Which book specifically?

Marklin have several books on digital that have been translated into English. The most recent is the one on the cs3 (unfortunately they don't seem to like the English version any more) that deals with software revisions before version 2, which the new book just announced in the new items brochure handles. A new version of the book is being produced as the version 2 software has introduced some significant changes.



Hi,

Book "Entry into Märklin Digital"Item No. 03081

Digital driving with CS3 (Software 1.x) Item No. 03082

Digital control with CS3 software 2.0 and higher Art.No. 03083

All of them are available only in german, or have they been trasnlated to English? in that case where can I found them?

Regards



Sorry, I linked to the wrong book. Check out this one for the CS3 v1.xx software.
Offline Minok  
#20 Posted : 22 January 2020 20:40:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: eduard71 Go to Quoted Post
I wonder when will be a digital book trasnlated to English. Confused


I wonder if Goofy's posts will ever get translated to actual English.
I've read this whole thread and I still don't understand what the actual point/question/issue is.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#21 Posted : 22 January 2020 21:18:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: eduard71 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Digital driving with CS3 (Software 1.x) Item No. 03082

Digital control with CS3 software 2.0 and higher Art.No. 03083


All of them are available only in German, or have they been translated to English? in that case where can I found them?


03092 is the English version of 03082. Marklin hasn't announced an English version of 03083 yet.
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#22 Posted : 22 January 2020 23:03:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: eduard71 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Digital driving with CS3 (Software 1.x) Item No. 03082

Digital control with CS3 software 2.0 and higher Art.No. 03083


All of them are available only in German, or have they been translated to English? in that case where can I found them?


03092 is the English version of 03082. Marklin hasn't announced an English version of 03083 yet.


But I won't be surprised if it is in the Summer or Autumn New Items ... RollEyes

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