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Offline PJMärklin  
#51 Posted : 17 August 2019 09:40:34(UTC)
PJMärklin

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Originally Posted by: Minok Go to Quoted Post
Whomever has one, what is the center rail/concrete look/metal material? (which is the center conductor)
Is it aluminum that has been anodized to that effect/color?


Hello Thomas,

My turntable is very old (1990's), it is actually a Fleischmann that was also sold as a 3-rail variant for
Märklin-users with a separately available pack of peripheral connections that served 3-rail:


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However I believe that the subsequent Märklin branded progeny were actually made by Fleischmann
and the one you image certainly looks like mine :


UserPostedImage


Thus if we are comparing apples with apples, the centre bit is metal, I am not sure if it is
Nickel alloy or Stainless Steel (but I doubt the latter):


UserPostedImage


I have a digital layout but retain the turntable control in "analogue" fashion (I like to control my operations) :


UserPostedImage


My turntable has worked faultlessly since installation and I think it is great ! :


UserPostedImage


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All the best to you, have fun with your trains,

PJ
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Online mvd71  
#52 Posted : 17 August 2019 11:34:10(UTC)
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It is a metal piece that has been surface treated (possibly anodised) I have one that I had to take part for repair, and the weight of the metal was such that it is definitely not aluminium.

It would be very nice to use something similar for a level crossing.
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Offline PJMärklin  
#53 Posted : 17 August 2019 11:44:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mvd71 Go to Quoted Post
It is a metal piece that has been surface treated (possibly anodised) I have one that I had to take part for repair, and the weight of the metal was such that it is definitely not aluminium.It would be very nice to use something similar for a level crossing.


Yes it is certainly not Al
Offline JohnjeanB  
#54 Posted : 17 August 2019 20:29:12(UTC)
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Hi

I believe the planking on Märklin 7286 is Zamak with a metal surface coating. Looks nice, but after some time it gives contact issues to me and others.
Likewise on the Fleischmann 6652 (the version for 3 rails) the differences with Märklin 7286 are the decoration / colour of the handrails, cabin and small items to install on the bridge and possibly no flat cable to plug to a different control unit.
It is quite possible that the metal planking can be procured as replacement.
Cheers
Jean
My lay-out videos
General operation
Loco change
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Offline TGV POS  
#55 Posted : 07 September 2019 19:10:57(UTC)
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New Photo of the Märklin turntable in the website! Drool
He was more beautiful of the old photo in New items 2019!
https://www.maerklin.de/...e/details/article/74861/
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Offline mrmarklin  
#56 Posted : 08 September 2019 05:41:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TGV POS Go to Quoted Post
New Photo of the Märklin turntable in the website! Drool
He was more beautiful of the old photo in New items 2019!
https://www.maerklin.de/...e/details/article/74861/


Much nicer than the original drawing. Mellow
From the People's Republik of Kalifornia
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Offline Goofy  
#57 Posted : 08 September 2019 08:51:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Go to Quoted Post
Hi

I believe the planking on Märklin 7286 is Zamak with a metal surface coating. Looks nice, but after some time it gives contact issues to me and others.
Likewise on the Fleischmann 6652 (the version for 3 rails) the differences with Märklin 7286 are the decoration / colour of the handrails, cabin and small items to install on the bridge and possibly no flat cable to plug to a different control unit.
It is quite possible that the metal planking can be procured as replacement.
Cheers
Jean


Fleischmann present new turntable for the three rail.
This model are Märklins 7286.
www.fleischmann.de/en/pr...0-005010-0/products.html

DCC means Digital Command Control.

Offline JohnjeanB  
#58 Posted : 08 September 2019 12:29:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post


Fleischmann present new turntable for the three rail.
This model are Märklins 7286.
www.fleischmann.de/en/pr...0-005010-0/products.html


Hi Goofy

This is very interesting that Fleischmann resumes (apparently) the release of this turntable: a very good product in the last years, very silent and allowing to handle large locos (which the new Märklin TT will not (smaller size).
Cheers

Jean

My lay-out videos
General operation
Loco change
Offline mbarreto  
#59 Posted : 08 September 2019 21:24:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Go to Quoted Post

....
This is very interesting that Fleischmann resumes (apparently) the release of this turntable: a very good product in the last years, very silent and allowing to handle large locos (which the new Märklin TT will not (smaller size).
Cheers

Jean



Hi,
I have but mine is very noisy. Are you using the standard motor?

Miguel


Mostly Märklin H0.


Offline mbarreto  
#60 Posted : 08 September 2019 22:08:03(UTC)
mbarreto

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Originally Posted by: TGV POS Go to Quoted Post
New Photo of the Märklin turntable in the website! Drool
He was more beautiful of the old photo in New items 2019!
https://www.maerklin.de/...e/details/article/74861/


It is only a graphic image and it seems they are saving colors :) The perimeter fillers seem to look better!
I prefer see the real thing and I hope it wil lnot be all the same plastic color. Will see...


Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline kiwiAlan  
#61 Posted : 08 September 2019 22:15:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: TGV POS Go to Quoted Post
New Photo of the Märklin turntable in the website! Drool
He was more beautiful of the old photo in New items 2019!
https://www.maerklin.de/...e/details/article/74861/


It is only a graphic image and it seems they are saving colors :) The perimeter fillers seem to look better!
I prefer see the real thing and I hope it wil lnot be all the same plastic color. Will see...


I don't think it is a graphic (as in computer generated) image, it looks like 'first pull' mouldings to me, all done in the same plastic colour. Probably an engineering prototype to make sure the moulds are correct and the parts all fit together.

Offline JohnjeanB  
#62 Posted : 08 September 2019 23:27:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post

....
Hi,
I have but mine is very noisy. Are you using the standard motor?

Miguel



Hi Miguel
My TT was manufatured in 2014 and was so silent (with the original motor) that you could hear only the relay clicking:

Since then I have modified it with a DigitalBahn decoder where the laching relay is not used and where a sound module replicates the sound of a real turntable.
It is also true that I laid the TT and the nearby tracks on a corkbed for noise insulation
Cheers
Jean

Edited by user 09 September 2019 10:55:52(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

My lay-out videos
General operation
Loco change
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Online mvd71  
#63 Posted : 09 September 2019 05:54:34(UTC)
mvd71

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The new turntable looks like it takes up a lot of space for not much turntable. Doubt I will move on from my k track one.
Offline mbarreto  
#64 Posted : 09 September 2019 10:50:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Go to Quoted Post
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Hi Miguel
My TT was manufatured in 2014 and was so silent (with the original motor) that you could hear only the relay clicking:
...


Hi Jean,

Mine is from the 90ies of the 20th century and probably your motor is a newer version and much better.
It is good to know the newer versions of the motor are much better as the noise of mine is annoying.

Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


Offline JohnjeanB  
#65 Posted : 09 September 2019 11:14:53(UTC)
JohnjeanB

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Hi

Miguel: This is only an assumption but I think you may order the motor & geartrain and it will probably solve your noise issues

On the new Märklin turntable, clearly the cabin is much less fine and detailled compared with the Fleischmann one (window panels).
On the other hand, probably the new TT brings much new technology (digital and sound which implies that the drive is rather silent). Lets wait and see.

Cheers

Jean
My lay-out videos
General operation
Loco change
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Offline LongHairedDavid  
#66 Posted : 09 September 2019 12:34:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Go to Quoted Post
Hi

Miguel: This is only an assumption but I think you may order the motor & geartrain and it will probably solve your noise issues

On the new Märklin turntable, clearly the cabin is much less fine and detailled compared with the Fleischmann one (window panels).
On the other hand, probably the new TT brings much new technology (digital and sound which implies that the drive is rather silent). Lets wait and see.

Cheers

Jean


I can't wait as it is an essential part of my shadow station design. I note that the Fleischmann TT needs a 239.99 euro module to drive it. That takes it out of my budget even if I was thinking of buying it instead of "good old" Marklin.
Long Haired David
AKA David Pennington
A mystified Maerklin Newbie
Offline Goofy  
#67 Posted : 09 September 2019 14:25:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: LongHairedDavid Go to Quoted Post


I note that the Fleischmann TT needs a 239.99 euro module to drive it. That takes it out of my budget even if I was thinking of buying it instead of "good old" Marklin.


There is a module follow with the turntable.
No need to buy extra.

DCC means Digital Command Control.

Offline TEEWolf  
#68 Posted : 09 September 2019 16:17:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: LongHairedDavid Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Go to Quoted Post
Hi

Miguel: This is only an assumption but I think you may order the motor & geartrain and it will probably solve your noise issues

On the new Märklin turntable, clearly the cabin is much less fine and detailled compared with the Fleischmann one (window panels).
On the other hand, probably the new TT brings much new technology (digital and sound which implies that the drive is rather silent). Lets wait and see.

Cheers

Jean


I can't wait as it is an essential part of my shadow station design. I note that the Fleischmann TT needs a 239.99 euro module to drive it. That takes it out of my budget even if I was thinking of buying it instead of "good old" Marklin.


Indeed the Maerklin TT shall come with an fx, mfx and DCC decoder. But it only shall functioning first after a software update for CS 2 and CS 3. At least you do not have to spend another 240 € as Fleischmann wants.
CS 3 is a controller system from Märklin - not a central station.
Offline franciscohg  
#69 Posted : 09 September 2019 18:51:04(UTC)
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Hello
As Goofy stated the extra module is not necessary to operate the TT, it cames with an analog control, just like the Maerklin ones used to.
As i understand, the extra module is like an enhanced decoder with a display, that can also be operated in analog, about 100 euro more than a standard TT decoder.
The fact that the new M TT comes with an integrated decoder is surely a plus, for what i read the need for the update is just for indexing tracks and not for standard use.
Having preinstalled yesterday my old 7286 and checked that it is working flawlessly, i will need only a LDT TT-DEC to integrate it to the digital system, never managed to make the 7687 to work properlyin the past.
Regards
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Offline TEEWolf  
#70 Posted : 09 September 2019 21:11:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: franciscohg Go to Quoted Post
Hello
As Goofy stated the extra module is not necessary to operate the TT, it cames with an analog control, just like the Maerklin ones used to.


But then you need an extra supply with an transformer.

Originally Posted by: franciscohg Go to Quoted Post

As i understand, the extra module is like an enhanced decoder with a display, that can also be operated in analog, about 100 euro more than a standard TT decoder.
The fact that the new M TT comes with an integrated decoder is surely a plus, for what i read the need for the update is just for indexing tracks and not for standard use.
Having preinstalled yesterday my old 7286 and checked that it is working flawlessly, i will need only a LDT TT-DEC to integrate it to the digital system, never managed to make the 7687 to work properlyin the past.
Regards


Do you got a 7687 module already?
CS 3 is a controller system from Märklin - not a central station.
Offline blid  
#71 Posted : 09 September 2019 21:55:52(UTC)
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Franciscohg,
I had a problem programming my 7687. I found out that “end” was not allowed to follow directly after “input”. So when all tracks were programmed and the last “input” pressed, I pressed “step” and then “end”. Then the programming was OK. The extra “step” was not stored.
CS2, 60215, 4x60174, C-tracks, LDT HSI-88, TC Gold. OneGauge Marklin and MTH, CS1 Reloaded on LGB tracks. MTH 3-rail 0-gauge, DCS on GarGraves tracks.
Offline franciscohg  
#72 Posted : 09 September 2019 22:39:25(UTC)
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Yes, i got a 7687 years ago for use in a previous layout. It was a nightmare, since then it is stored in his box a i have run the TT with the analog controler. For this layout i have many LDT items on use, so shortly i will order the TT decoder to digitally operate it.
Cannot find a manual for the Fleischmann new TT but i think that it should work just like the old 7286. To power it you can use any transformer, i use the one for power my LDT turnouts decos. It is a wise thing not to use digital current to power a motor and the advantage is that you can use any MRR power source.
Bottom line, if you already have a TT i think that it is not worthy to get a new one, even if you are rebuilding with C track. You can always use adapter tracks, i use M to K to connect to the layout and C to K to fit the big 77502 coaling station
Regards
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Offline Goofy  
#73 Posted : 10 September 2019 07:13:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: franciscohg Go to Quoted Post
Hello
As Goofy stated the extra module is not necessary to operate the TT, it cames with an analog control, just like the Maerklin ones used to.


But then you need an extra supply with an transformer.



Yes but it´s normal by feed a turntable and even digital turnout decoder.
I believe Märklins new turntable need external power for the digital decoder.

DCC means Digital Command Control.

Offline ciobitud  
#74 Posted : 13 September 2019 18:04:53(UTC)
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Some photos from Märklin Days 2019:

Photo #1

Photo #2

Photo #3

More photos from Märklin Days 2019: Facebook TrainsDepot.org
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Offline mbarreto  
#75 Posted : 13 September 2019 18:17:52(UTC)
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Thanks for the photos of the turntable. They also showed it in operaton on today's presentations of the Autumn/Winter new items.
I have mixed feelings about it.
I don't understand why the colour of the peripheral fillers are not the same of the C track ballast.
I don't like the "dead end" track and I would prefer it to have the tracks to a smaller than a bigger length of the fillers.
I also would like more colour in the operators shack.

As it is for C track without scenary in the floor it will never look great, but in a layout I think it will look a better.
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline scraigen  
#76 Posted : 13 September 2019 22:08:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
I don't understand why the colour of the peripheral fillers are not the same of the C track ballast.
I don't like the "dead end" track and I would prefer it to have the tracks to a smaller than a bigger length of the fillers.
I also would like more colour in the operators shack


My thoughts exactly!
Must build something
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Offline franciscohg  
#77 Posted : 14 September 2019 00:19:48(UTC)
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Still dont love it..... At all
UserPostedImage German trains era I-II and selected III, era depends on the mood, mostly Maerklin but i can be heretic if needed XD, heresy is no longer an issue.. LOL
Online mvd71  
#78 Posted : 14 September 2019 12:41:36(UTC)
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Certainly not winning me over! I don't think I'd ever spend money on one!!
Offline Bobby  
#79 Posted : 16 September 2019 10:51:34(UTC)
Bobby

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Did someone know how deep is the hole of the turntable?
I want it use for my layout on the floor.
Kind regards
Marco
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