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Offline Goofy  
#1 Posted : 20 July 2019 09:58:56(UTC)
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Okey...
I did tested my new digital semaphore and it works.
But there is already fault on the signal.
When you take look at my pictures you see what fault there is at the second wing.
Märklin did put red lens(!) when it shall be yellow instead.
In the dark room it shines orange lighting.
When you visit Märklins homepage they show up with the yellow lens and it show same on the package.
I´m not sure if anyone who has same similar problem and Märklins new second generation semaphore with the grey mast will Märklin do same mistakes there too?

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Offline Goofy  
#2 Posted : 20 July 2019 10:13:39(UTC)
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Yesterday i did got my new digital semaphore made of Märklin.
But i did already found out fault with the signal! Huh
The second wing show red lens and it should be yellow instead.
When the LED shines in the dark room it shows orange lighting.
I decides to return the signal back to change a new.
Has anyone of you same similar problem with the Märklins digital semaphore?

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#3 Posted : 20 July 2019 10:56:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
But i did already found out fault with the signal!


There's a surprise! Goofy has a problem with a Marklin item, whoever would have thunk it!?

Have you ever kept a Marklin item that you're happy with?

Plus, we don't need two topics covering the same subject so I have merged both.

Maybe I should lock the topic now......

Sigh!

Edited by user 20 July 2019 23:00:59(UTC)  | Reason: Spelling

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Offline David Dewar  
#4 Posted : 20 July 2019 11:24:55(UTC)
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Anybody got this signal and can confirm there is a fault or not. Surely Marklin have not made a mistake with the colours.
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Offline Goofy  
#5 Posted : 20 July 2019 11:53:55(UTC)
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I did checked the lens closer and it shows darker orange.
It really looks like red but instead it´s darker orange lens.
I did also checked german prototype semaphore both distans and main signal and it shows darker lens, but not red.
So it seems correct signal i did bought.
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Offline Goofy  
#6 Posted : 20 July 2019 11:58:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
But i did already found out fault with the signal!


There's a surprise! Goofy has a problem with a Marklin item, whoever would have thunk it!?

Have you ever kept a Marklin item that you're happy with?

Plus, we don't need two topics covering the same subject so I have merged both.

Maybe I should lock the topic now......

Sigh!


Give up!
I did checked closer now with the signal.
It similar looks like red lens but it is darker orange and you need magnifying glass to see difference.
When you check competitors semaphore they show yellow lens and the light present yellow.

Edited by moderator 20 July 2019 23:00:24(UTC)  | Reason: Spelling - mine, not Goofy's.

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Offline poulmh  
#7 Posted : 20 July 2019 12:11:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
I did checked the lens closer and it shows darker orange.
It really looks like red but instead it´s darker orange lens.
I did also checked german prototype semaphore both distans and main signal and it shows darker lens, but not red.
So it seems correct signal i did bought.


So, Märklin is right and others are wrong ? Confused
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Offline David Dewar  
#8 Posted : 20 July 2019 12:25:32(UTC)
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Is it just me do others find these threads confusing. From what Goofy is now saying the signal is correct but not as correct as others . Or Marklin is correct and the others are wrong. Think I will go for a coffee.
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#9 Posted : 20 July 2019 13:26:43(UTC)
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You and me both, Flash Dave!

Cave stocks of Holy Water have been found and are now available for consumption! Hick, burp!
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Offline TEEWolf  
#10 Posted : 20 July 2019 16:12:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Okey...
I did tested my new digital semaphore and it works.
But there is already fault on the signal.
When you take look at my pictures you see what fault there is at the second wing.
Märklin did put red lens(!) when it shall be yellow instead.
In the dark room it shines orange lighting.
When you visit Märklins homepage they show up with the yellow lens and it show same on the package.
I´m not sure if anyone who has same similar problem and Märklins new second generation semaphore with the grey mast will Märklin do same mistakes there too?


The difference between 1st and 2nd generation (as you are thinking) is only the colour. One is green and the other one is grey, otherwise the signals are identical, as Maerklin wrote me. The 2nd colour grey was a wish of a lot of model railroaders, Maerklin said. At least a 2nd generation does not exist, only an edition with an other colour.

Yes, the lower light of a signal shall be yellow = Hp2 position means, go ahead with a speed limit.

I remember these semaphore signals very well, although only a few are left. When I was a boy, I often was wondering about these signal colours. Sometimes it was yellow, but mostly I saw orange. I think this was only due to the brilliance of light and my viewing angel up the signal.

Get more informed about the various signals, colours, etc in Germany.

http://stellwerke.de/signal/deutsch/hv.html

Enjoy your Märklin signal. It is a nice and good one. In connection with your CS 3 even an excellent signal for an automatic MRR playing. Maerklin just issued a new teaching video about creating an automated routing on a layout.



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Offline Goofy  
#11 Posted : 20 July 2019 18:24:49(UTC)
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I did checked at google and wikipedia to find answer about lens color set on the semaphore.
I was right!
The second wing have to use yellow color on the lens.
So here in this case Märklin did add too dark lens on the second wing.
Orange is not correct.
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Offline Goofy  
#12 Posted : 20 July 2019 18:27:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: poulmh Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
I did checked the lens closer and it shows darker orange.
It really looks like red but instead it´s darker orange lens.
I did also checked german prototype semaphore both distans and main signal and it shows darker lens, but not red.
So it seems correct signal i did bought.


So, Märklin is right and others are wrong ? Confused


No Märklin has wrong and in this case used to dark lens.
It similar looks like red but the lens shows dark orange which is wrong.

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Offline Purellum  
#13 Posted : 20 July 2019 20:21:14(UTC)
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Cool

On the prototype the lens looks red, and the light should be yellow.

Look at the light from a loco-drivers view ( horizontal ); not from above and in a dark room.

Then please take a picture and show us.

http://www.tf-ausbildung...SignalbuchOnline/hp2.htm

Per.

P.S: Popcorn anyone?? LOL

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Offline David Dewar  
#14 Posted : 20 July 2019 20:50:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Purellum Go to Quoted Post
Cool

On the prototype the lens looks red, and the light should be yellow.

Look at the light from a loco-drivers view ( horizontal ); not from above and in a dark room.

Then please take a picture and show us.

http://www.tf-ausbildung...SignalbuchOnline/hp2.htm

Per.

P.S: Popcorn anyone?? LOL

Cool



Per. Very shortly you will regret joining this thread as it plays with your mind.

I need something stronger than popcorn.
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#15 Posted : 20 July 2019 21:17:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Purellum Go to Quoted Post
Cool

On the prototype the lens looks red, and the light should be yellow.

Look at the light from a loco-drivers view ( horizontal ); not from above and in a dark room.

Then please take a picture and show us.

http://www.tf-ausbildung...SignalbuchOnline/hp2.htm

Per.

P.S: Popcorn anyone?? LOL

Cool



Per. Very shortly you will regret joining this thread as it plays with your mind.

I need something stronger than popcorn.


Drambuie perhaps ... BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin
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Offline franciscohg  
#16 Posted : 20 July 2019 21:25:33(UTC)
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Offline TEEWolf  
#17 Posted : 21 July 2019 21:19:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post

Drambuie perhaps ... BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin


Has this something to do with Rusty Nails, perhaps on your layout? Laugh Laugh Laugh
Offline kiwiAlan  
#18 Posted : 21 July 2019 22:32:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post

Drambuie perhaps ... BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin


Has this something to do with Rusty Nails, perhaps on your layout? Laugh Laugh Laugh


No, he just said he needed something stronger than popcorn ...

And as he is Scottish, I suggested a suitable whisky ... Drool Drool Drool

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Offline hxmiesa  
#19 Posted : 22 July 2019 09:04:28(UTC)
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I have one older Märklin semafore signal where one lens is actually BLUE, so that the yellow light of the old incandessant bulp makes a GREEN light! :-)
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Offline dickinsonj  
#20 Posted : 23 July 2019 03:26:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
And as he is Scottish, I suggested a suitable whisky ... Drool Drool Drool


And I would think that should be Scotch Whisky from John Dewar and Sons, which is quite popular here in the US.

BTW I don't recommend reading any thread started by Anders when totally sober - it could lead to irreparable brain damage IMO.
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline PJMärklin  
#21 Posted : 23 July 2019 12:05:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
And as he is Scottish, I suggested a suitable whisky ... Drool Drool Drool

And I would think that should be Scotch Whisky from John Dewar and Sons, which is quite popular here in the US.



Don't forget these ! (kept for my Scotch-drinking Father-in-law still doing so in his 10th decade):


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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Go to Quoted Post

BTW I don't recommend reading any thread started by Anders when totally sober - it could lead to irreparable brain damage IMO.



Pardon me, but do you mean (that is, at the beginning or end of the thread) if you are soberLaugh or our dear member AndersWink ?


Regards,

PJBigGrin
Offline kiwiAlan  
#22 Posted : 23 July 2019 12:58:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PJMärklin Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
And as he is Scottish, I suggested a suitable whisky ... Drool Drool Drool

And I would think that should be Scotch Whisky from John Dewar and Sons, which is quite popular here in the US.



Don't forget these ! (kept for my Scotch-drinking Father-in-law still doing so in his 10th decade):



I'm sure David would find any of those just as appropriate ... BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin
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Offline dickinsonj  
#23 Posted : 23 July 2019 13:16:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PJMärklin Go to Quoted Post

Pardon me, but do you mean (that is, at the beginning or end of the thread) if you are soberLaugh or our dear member AndersWink ?


I meant when I am sober because I usually lose track of what the point of the thread actually is and sometimes a bit of alcohol can make almost anything make sense. BigGrin

I went through a pretty serious Scotch Whisky phase when I was younger and I still remember the night a friend introduced me to Glenfiddich, or at least parts of that night anyway. Cool
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline David Dewar  
#24 Posted : 23 July 2019 13:56:45(UTC)
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Some folk above should move to Scotland where you can get as much Whisky , Irn Bru, Fish & Chips, Scotch Pies and deep fried Mars Bars as you want.

Other than fish and chips I don't have any of them.


One good thing about the above is I have forgotten about the colour of the signal lens.
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Offline dickinsonj  
#25 Posted : 23 July 2019 14:07:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
One good thing about the above is I have forgotten about the colour of the signal lens.


You see David, I knew that alcohol was the answer to one of Ander's threads - even if you don't actually consume it yourself. Cool
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
Offline kiwiAlan  
#26 Posted : 23 July 2019 14:09:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
Some folk above should move to Scotland where you can get as much Whisky , Irn Bru, Fish & Chips, Scotch Pies and deep fried Mars Bars as you want.

Other than fish and chips I don't have any of them.


One good thing about the above is I have forgotten about the colour of the signal lens.


I think it was stained with irn Bru ... LOL
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Offline TEEWolf  
#27 Posted : 23 July 2019 14:27:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
Some folk above should move to Scotland where you can get as much Whisky , Irn Bru, Fish & Chips, Scotch Pies and deep fried Mars Bars as you want.

Other than fish and chips I don't have any of them.


One good thing about the above is I have forgotten about the colour of the signal lens.


Well you are right. Because living so far away from Scotland, I knew nothing about a "Drambuie". You forgot it in your recital.

But by Wikipedia, Drambuie shall be a mixture of Scottish whiskey and Scottish liquer. It must taste like a sweet whiskey.

Fried Mars Bars? Igitt - I prefer a Wiener Schnitzel. Even looks yellow - orange, like the light at the lower wing of a double wing semaphore.LOL
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Offline dickinsonj  
#28 Posted : 24 July 2019 00:53:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Well you are right. Because living so far away from Scotland, I knew nothing about a "Drambuie". You forgot it in your recital.

But by Wikipedia, Drambuie shall be a mixture of Scottish whiskey and Scottish liquer. It must taste like a sweet whiskey.

Fried Mars Bars? Igitt - I prefer a Wiener Schnitzel. Even looks yellow - orange, like the light at the lower wing of a double wing semaphore.LOL


Wolfgang, you are correct about what Drambuie is and it was the very first liqueur that I ever tasted. A friend's parents drank enough of it that they never noticed our small but steady consumption in our late teens. BigGrin

I have no idea what any of that has to do with the purpose of this thread. Of course I have never known what the purpose actually is, so it is kind of hard to break the rules in that regard. Cool
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
Offline David Dewar  
#29 Posted : 24 July 2019 10:52:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Well you are right. Because living so far away from Scotland, I knew nothing about a "Drambuie". You forgot it in your recital.

But by Wikipedia, Drambuie shall be a mixture of Scottish whiskey and Scottish liquer. It must taste like a sweet whiskey.

Fried Mars Bars? Igitt - I prefer a Wiener Schnitzel. Even looks yellow - orange, like the light at the lower wing of a double wing semaphore.LOL


Wolfgang, you are correct about what Drambuie is and it was the very first liqueur that I ever tasted. A friend's parents drank enough of it that they never noticed our small but steady consumption in our late teens. BigGrin

I have no idea what any of that has to do with the purpose of this thread. Of course I have never known what the purpose actually is, so it is kind of hard to break the rules in that regard. Cool


Jim I think somebody mentioned various types of drink in order that we could forget the purpose of the thread and it appears to be working lol.
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Offline PJMärklin  
#30 Posted : 24 July 2019 12:13:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
Some folk above should move to Scotland where you can get as much Whisky , Irn Bru, Fish & Chips, Scotch Pies and deep fried Mars Bars as you want.

Other than fish and chips I don't have any of them.

...


Don't forget the other delicacy as found in this image I took in Edinburgh :

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Regards,

PJ
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