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Offline quarkhirad  
#1 Posted : 23 February 2019 15:44:34(UTC)
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Till today i only have Marklin M tracks. However i am planning to buy some C tracks as i want to expand my layout. However, i dont have any idea about the geometry of C Track. Further what are the track no. For example 5106 was the m track straight 180mm section track etc.

Also are the curves the same that is can i get a 5100 m track equivalent in C track or are the radius's different.

Further what about the points like 5140, 5137, 5202 etc.

Thank you

KHirad
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Offline mbarreto  
#2 Posted : 23 February 2019 16:30:06(UTC)
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You can look at a catalogue that has the M track and other that has the C track (started in 1996). Catalogue from 1998 has both, although with C track with less parts than exist today.
Probably you know the M track geometry, or have a catalogue of it, so I attach here a pdf (unfortunately in german) that has the C track geometry.

The file attached, I probably got from this forum, but don't know the thread I got it from.

Basically you wil have to use R1 and R2 of C track. R1 in M track is 5100 series and 24100 series for C track. R2 is 5200 series for M track and 24200 series for C track.
The basic length in C track is 360 mm wich is achieved by 24188 + 24172 (they have different lengths). In M track you can have 360 by using 2 5106.

marklin_via_c.pdf (3,424kb) downloaded 441 time(s).

Others may give you better hints to follow.

Regards,
Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline TEEWolf  
#3 Posted : 23 February 2019 23:38:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: quarkhirad Go to Quoted Post
Till today i only have Marklin M tracks. However i am planning to buy some C tracks as i want to expand my layout. However, i dont have any idea about the geometry of C Track. Further what are the track no. For example 5106 was the m track straight 180mm section track etc.

Also are the curves the same that is can i get a 5100 m track equivalent in C track or are the radius's different.

Further what about the points like 5140, 5137, 5202 etc.

Thank you

KHirad



FAQs on Märklin's website

https://www.maerklin.de/...uestions-about-h0-gauge/

Question

"Where do I find track plans for expanding my C Track starter set?"

There you find a C-track plan brochure, even in English.Smile
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Offline quarkhirad  
#4 Posted : 24 February 2019 08:41:57(UTC)
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Hey guys thanks that is helpfull. Now Mbarreto thanks that is slightly helpful as there is some info though it is in german. Anybody has the english version? It seems that c track has 5 curve tracks of different radius. Hmm thats interesting. Further i can see the lengths of straight track are different from M-track. So i am looking for some detailed track planning manual like 0390 or 700 catalogs for M-track. The reason is in these books there are pages where you can see how to make sidings with different track to track distances (for example, 96.4, 130.2, 77.4 etc. Just see page 9 of 0390). Also there is a neat table which tells you for various lengths of straight track what sections are to be used . For example for length of 241mm is 5108+5109+5110+2x5129.

Further i was thinking of using my 0209 M track stencil for track planing. Obviously i cant as there are more curve tracks with other radius and event the straight track lengths are different. Is there a stencil for C track planing (1:10 scale )? if yes what is the number.

Thank you

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Offline quarkhirad  
#5 Posted : 24 February 2019 10:31:52(UTC)
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Hey hi . I was just browsing for some stuff and i found a book . This seems to be what i am looking for. It is 07455 . Does anybody have a copy or know where i can download it from .

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#6 Posted : 24 February 2019 10:35:09(UTC)
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Hey hi . I was just browsing for some stuff and i found a book . This seems to be what i am looking for. It is 07455 . Does anybody have a copy or know where i can download it from .



[img=https://www.google.com/search?q=07455+marklin+catalog&rlz=1C1CHBF_enIN780IN780&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjpvqzlhtTgAhXGT30KHX5uCjUQ_AUIDigB&biw=1366&bih=576#imgrc=q7Ude-oDGB9F0M:]pic of catalog[/img]
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#7 Posted : 24 February 2019 12:20:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: quarkhirad Go to Quoted Post
Hey guys thanks that is helpfull. Now Mbarreto thanks that is slightly helpful as there is some info though it is in german. Anybody has the english version? It seems that c track has 5 curve tracks of different radius. Hmm thats interesting. Further i can see the lengths of straight track are different from M-track. So i am looking for some detailed track planning manual like 0390 or 700 catalogs for M-track. The reason is in these books there are pages where you can see how to make sidings with different track to track distances (for example, 96.4, 130.2, 77.4 etc. Just see page 9 of 0390). Also there is a neat table which tells you for various lengths of straight track what sections are to be used . For example for length of 241mm is 5108+5109+5110+2x5129.

Further i was thinking of using my 0209 M track stencil for track planing. Obviously i cant as there are more curve tracks with other radius and event the straight track lengths are different. Is there a stencil for C track planing (1:10 scale )? if yes what is the number.

Thank you



See my notes for Artful Dodger about C track geometry when converting from M track plans.
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Offline mbarreto  
#8 Posted : 25 February 2019 00:17:05(UTC)
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You can see the basics of C track written simply in this C-TRAK modules site (please note C-TRAK are the modules not the C track itself):

https://www.c-trak.org/

You can see lots of information in the thread in the link below, although much is advanced. It is the thread used in this forum to discuss C track related stuff:

https://www.marklin-user...s--uses--and-innovations
Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline TEEWolf  
#9 Posted : 25 February 2019 03:53:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: quarkhirad Go to Quoted Post
Hey hi . I was just browsing for some stuff and i found a book . This seems to be what i am looking for. It is 07455 . Does anybody have a copy or know where i can download it from .



I think there is no PDF download available, because you still can buy it for quite a high price

https://www.hpdgsmarket....o&products_id=425157

and you find plenty of plans in the internet, like this link

https://www.google.de/se....gws-wiz-img.ZRMuUZyGnsY

or from Märklin itself

https://www.maerklin.de/...ne-und-maerklin-freunde/

https://www.maerklin.de/..._0513_Download_Teil1.pdf

https://www.maerklin.de/...Downloaddatei_MM0115.pdf
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Offline quarkhirad  
#10 Posted : 27 February 2019 18:19:47(UTC)
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Hi thank you guys

sorry for the delayed thatnk you.

Hey just realized that there are track planing softwares available which alow you to design your layout. Is there any track planning software with marklin c track and mtrack geometry. So that i can make new track plans

Thank you


Khirad
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Offline TEEWolf  
#11 Posted : 27 February 2019 18:41:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: quarkhirad Go to Quoted Post
Hi thank you guys

sorry for the delayed thatnk you.

Hey just realized that there are track planing softwares available which alow you to design your layout. Is there any track planning software with marklin c track and mtrack geometry. So that i can make new track plans

Thank you


Khirad


Of course there is. Here is a link to WinTrack, which was priorly sold by Märklin too.

https://www.wintrack.de/

You can their websites change to different languages by the listet country flags. Under features you see this software can calculate layouts in C-, K,- and M-tracks, mini-club (Z) and gauge 1 as well. And many other model railway producer companies. It is a very flexible software. You also can buy complete layouts, which you may build up or change it to your own ideas, whatever you want.

https://meisesmobacenter...lten/mmc-gleisplaene-h0/
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