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Offline sjbartels  
#1 Posted : 31 January 2019 19:43:39(UTC)
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Trying to identify the last few beer cars that I can't find in Kolls catalogue, Obviously they're of the 4415 variety but would like to find out their Kolls number, or whether they were part of a set, or at least something. Any information welcome

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Offline IanC  
#2 Posted : 01 February 2019 13:48:39(UTC)
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Can't tell you much. The Burg Brau wagons come from Upper Austria. The Gotz Bier is from Geislingen (of Steige fame) on the Stuttgart - Munich line and near to Goppingen, the home of Marklin. Some of these cars are locally commissioned by model shops, heritage railway societies, model railway clubs (MISTs) and the breweries themselves, so they don't make it to the Marklin catalogue.

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Offline sjbartels  
#3 Posted : 02 February 2019 03:00:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: IanC Go to Quoted Post
Can't tell you much. The Burg Brau wagons come from Upper Austria. The Gotz Bier is from Geislingen (of Steige fame) on the Stuttgart - Munich line and near to Goppingen, the home of Marklin. Some of these cars are locally commissioned by model shops, heritage railway societies, model railway clubs (MISTs) and the breweries themselves, so they don't make it to the Marklin catalogue.

IanC


Yes, all true

There was a Gotz beer car with the Swiss 4400 series, not one of these, so was optimistic that they were an actual set - there is also a red one like the Märzenbier. I think these are going to remain elusive alas
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Offline TEEWolf  
#4 Posted : 02 February 2019 03:27:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sjbartels Go to Quoted Post
Trying to identify the last few beer cars that I can't find in Kolls catalogue, Obviously they're of the 4415 variety but would like to find out their Kolls number, or whether they were part of a set, or at least something. Any information welcome

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Not easy to find anything, because the Burg-Bräu was obviously be brewed by the contractual brewery Raschhofer

http://www.raschhoferbier.at/

from Austria - as it is written on the wagons.

Here is a fan and collector of brewery wagons

http://hansjoerg-dill.de/

http://bierwagen.hansjoerg-dill.de/alle.htm

He shows in an own seperate website his brewery wagon collection

https://modellbierwagen.de/

Perhaps you find your wagons there, otherwise write him an e-mail asking for your wagons.
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