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Offline Goofy  
#1 Posted : 14 December 2018 07:00:48(UTC)
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Seems Märklin don´t upgrade CS3 any more time? Blink
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#2 Posted : 14 December 2018 09:06:19(UTC)
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You should be happy: you wanted a complete system without frequent bug fixes.
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Offline Goofy  
#3 Posted : 14 December 2018 09:19:52(UTC)
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You should be happy: you wanted a complete system without frequent bug fixes.


Yes please?
But can Märklin do this?
Is there really no more upgrade for the CS3?
Nothing has been happens since July last upgraded.

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Offline Purellum  
#4 Posted : 14 December 2018 09:27:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Is there really no more upgrade for the CS3?


Why do you want an upgrade ??

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Offline Goofy  
#5 Posted : 14 December 2018 17:38:53(UTC)
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Why do you want an upgrade ??

Per


What do you mean to say i want to upgrade??
I just wrote a question about why Märklin has not heard of new upgrades.

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#6 Posted : 14 December 2018 18:34:13(UTC)
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AFAIK they were frequent upgrades at the begginning because they were many bugs on the software, for what i had read in the past, those bugs have been solved, if so, what is the need for an upgrade?
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#7 Posted : 14 December 2018 18:43:29(UTC)
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Hi,

Christmas and Nuremberg Spielwaren Messe is near. Why should Märklin bring an update now?

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Offline Nick_40034  
#8 Posted : 14 December 2018 18:44:56(UTC)
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Read my last post in this thread.. I would say there is a VERY good reason for a upgrade !!!
https://www.marklin-user...d-strange-Loco-behaviour
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Offline Purellum  
#9 Posted : 14 December 2018 19:04:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
What do you mean to say i want to upgrade??
I just wrote a question about why Märklin has not heard of new upgrades.


OK, so you were just bored again. LOL

And if Märklin makes an update, you will then make a post about how bad the CS3 is, since they need to update. LOL

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Offline Purellum  
#10 Posted : 14 December 2018 19:19:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Nick_40034 Go to Quoted Post
I would say there is a VERY good reason for a upgrade !!!


Well, Goofy has spend 3 - 4 years telling us that there wouldn't be any more updates on the CS2; but still they came.

He's now starting the same nonsense about CS3, so don't worry, they will come. LOL

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#11 Posted : 14 December 2018 21:42:06(UTC)
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I will contact Marklin about 2019 plan included next update on CS3. I will let know I have news from M.
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Offline TEEWolf  
#12 Posted : 14 December 2018 21:45:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Seems Märklin don´t upgrade CS3 any more time? Blink


read here:

https://www.marklin-user...d-strange-Loco-behaviour

see post #46 - next update shall come in January 2019.
Offline Goofy  
#13 Posted : 15 December 2018 07:24:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Purellum Go to Quoted Post


Originally Posted by: Nick_40034 Go to Quoted Post
I would say there is a VERY good reason for a upgrade !!!


Well, Goofy has spend 3 - 4 years telling us that there wouldn't be any more updates on the CS2; but still they came.

He's now starting the same nonsense about CS3, so don't worry, they will come.

Per.



I did not said that.
I was disappointed that Märklin has very hard to produce digital system as complete without anymore time to upgrade.
I believe CS3 will repeat same process.
The problem is just that Märklin are silence since July last upgraded for the CS3.
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Offline Purellum  
#14 Posted : 15 December 2018 08:45:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
I did not said that.


In that case, then who wrote this??

Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
I knew it...i knew it!!
It present only limited functions with the CS2.
That means CS2 will not been upgrade to more functions.


Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
CS2 do only have 16 functions and will not been upgrade to more functions.


Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Märklin focus on the CS3 and they did placement lot of money to create an new CS3.
It cost a lof of money by do that!!
So Märklin are not interested to focus by upgrade CS2 to welcome more functions.


Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
In fact it´s waste of time for the Märklin by focus on the CS2 while CS3 is far more important to make money.


Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Märklin focus on the CS3.
I don´t believe Märklin are interested to upgrade CS2 into future.


Do you want me to find more examples? LOL

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#15 Posted : 15 December 2018 12:08:46(UTC)
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Do you want me to find more examples? LOL


Oh, please! Laugh LOL
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Offline David Dewar  
#16 Posted : 15 December 2018 13:01:33(UTC)
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My CS3 PLus is sitting under the Christmas tree. The last thing I want to do when opening the box is an update.


Can I just remind the forum to be standing by on Boxing day when I find I don't know how to operate most of it. lol.
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Offline michelvr  
#17 Posted : 15 December 2018 17:59:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
My CS3 PLus is sitting under the Christmas tree. The last thing I want to do when opening the box is an update.


Can I just remind the forum to be standing by on Boxing day when I find I don't know how to operate most of it. lol.



Märklin’s Running Trains Digitally with the Central Station 3 would make a perfect stocking stuffer present!
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Offline David Dewar  
#18 Posted : 15 December 2018 21:14:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: michelvr Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
My CS3 PLus is sitting under the Christmas tree. The last thing I want to do when opening the box is an update.


Can I just remind the forum to be standing by on Boxing day when I find I don't know how to operate most of it. lol.



Märklin’s Running Trains Digitally with the Central Station 3 would make a perfect stocking stuffer present!




Yep. I do have the book. Thought it better to buy in advance.
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Offline Nick_40034  
#19 Posted : 16 December 2018 00:46:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
My CS3 PLus is sitting under the Christmas tree. The last thing I want to do when opening the box is an update.


Can I just remind the forum to be standing by on Boxing day when I find I don't know how to operate most of it. lol.


The first thing you should do with any hardware that has software running it is check for updates !! They produce new builds(Updates) for a reason.. Beta testers and users find Bugs and new features come around all the time as they have stiff competition that are also looking for the latest features. I work in IT for a software company, We are for ever trying to bet the competition.. AI (Artificial intelligence) is all the rage these days, keep your learning algorithms up to date or lose to the competition and get left behind..
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#20 Posted : 16 December 2018 05:13:19(UTC)
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The first thing you should do with any hardware that has software running it is check for updates !!


I think Dave has prior history with updates breaking stuff, hence his comments...

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#21 Posted : 16 December 2018 07:28:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
My CS3 PLus is sitting under the Christmas tree. The last thing I want to do when opening the box is an update.


Can I just remind the forum to be standing by on Boxing day when I find I don't know how to operate most of it. lol.



Märklin’s Running Trains Digitally with the Central Station 3 would make a perfect stocking stuffer present!


I have this book and I don't even own a CS3!
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Offline David Dewar  
#22 Posted : 16 December 2018 11:59:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Nick_40034 Go to Quoted Post
The first thing you should do with any hardware that has software running it is check for updates !!


I think Dave has prior history with updates breaking stuff, hence his comments...



Yep. My CS2 now operates very well and does everything I need with the last update being more than two years ago. I will be happy with the new controller just to run locos and set up some turnouts and in time will go for routes etc. I did ask Lippe to do the current updates before despatch so hopefully all will be well. With 40 odd years in the hobby (excluding my Hornby as a child) I have found that the more you fiddle with things or add stuff from other manufacturers the more likely things go wrong.

IF it works out the box then I only change it when absolutely necessary. My mobile phone is four years old and does everything so why change it just to keep up to date with the neighbours.


My TV on the other hand is the very latest as that is what I needed for the best pics for football and cricket etc.
I do however appreciate Nicks comments.
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#23 Posted : 16 December 2018 12:37:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post

Yep. My CS2 now operates very well and does everything I need with the last update being more than two years ago.



It will be worth making sure your CS2 has the most recent USB stick update to ensure you can use 32 functions with it. I presume you will slave it to the CS3.

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Offline David Dewar  
#24 Posted : 16 December 2018 12:44:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post

Yep. My CS2 now operates very well and does everything I need with the last update being more than two years ago.



It will be worth making sure your CS2 has the most recent USB stick update to ensure you can use 32 functions with it. I presume you will slave it to the CS3.



Hi Alan. My CS2 will run four shuttle routes on a separate part pf the layout and CS3 will run the main layout so I wont add it to the CS3. Also in time I may sell the CS2 but will keep it at present as back up.
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#25 Posted : 16 December 2018 12:47:41(UTC)
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My CS3 runs great or that’s right it is an ECOS 2. 😂
Offline Goofy  
#26 Posted : 16 December 2018 20:28:11(UTC)
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I have no more CS3.
I did sold it and did find out that the system are not 100% function perfect.
The digital soft program in the CS3 are not 100% prof.
So i decides to check after a new digital system later.
The most important is that the digital system are complete 100% with the DCC advanced functional prof.
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Offline Purellum  
#27 Posted : 16 December 2018 21:02:11(UTC)
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LOL

Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
I have no more CS3.


2 months and 16 days, I believe it's a new record. LOL



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#28 Posted : 16 December 2018 21:04:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: xxup Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: michelvr Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
My CS3 PLus is sitting under the Christmas tree. The last thing I want to do when opening the box is an update.


Can I just remind the forum to be standing by on Boxing day when I find I don't know how to operate most of it. lol.



Märklin’s Running Trains Digitally with the Central Station 3 would make a perfect stocking stuffer present!


I have this book and I don't even own a CS3!


Is this book not excellent and helping in many cases, if even you do not have aCS 3 yet?
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#29 Posted : 16 December 2018 21:18:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post

Yep. My CS2 now operates very well and does everything I need with the last update being more than two years ago.



It will be worth making sure your CS2 has the most recent USB stick update to ensure you can use 32 functions with it. I presume you will slave it to the CS3.



Indeed! I have very small experience with a CS 2, at my MIST we use a CS 1. And it is a tragedy by speed and usage through other people. For a CS 3 everything no problem. Even you can attache as much MS 2 and/or CS 3 as you like (unfortunately not with a CS 1, this is a desaster). So the club can play - otherwise not. Then the best: mfx! No question which digital address you need or using. Just put the loco onto the tracks, wait an hour by a CS 1, half an hour by a CS 2 and several minutes at a CS 3, then start playing. It is managed by the CS 3 itself - fine - quick - perfect, as it should be.
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#30 Posted : 16 December 2018 21:24:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post

Yep. My CS2 now operates very well and does everything I need with the last update being more than two years ago.



It will be worth making sure your CS2 has the most recent USB stick update to ensure you can use 32 functions with it. I presume you will slave it to the CS3.



Hi Alan. My CS2 will run four shuttle routes on a separate part pf the layout and CS3 will run the main layout so I wont add it to the CS3. Also in time I may sell the CS2 but will keep it at present as back up.


Hi David,

why don't you use your CS 2 as a booster? For seperate routes beside a CS 3. Is there a track connection between these sideway layout? If yes, how do you asure the seperation to the CS 3 layout? Do you use a rocker switch (hopefully you understand my wording? Perhaps isolating rocker is better) as it was required by Märklin about 20 years ago?

Regards

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#31 Posted : 16 December 2018 23:46:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post

Yep. My CS2 now operates very well and does everything I need with the last update being more than two years ago.



It will be worth making sure your CS2 has the most recent USB stick update to ensure you can use 32 functions with it. I presume you will slave it to the CS3.



Hi Alan. My CS2 will run four shuttle routes on a separate part pf the layout and CS3 will run the main layout so I wont add it to the CS3. Also in time I may sell the CS2 but will keep it at present as back up.


Hi David,

why don't you use your CS 2 as a booster? For seperate routes beside a CS 3. Is there a track connection between these sideway layout? If yes, how do you asure the seperation to the CS 3 layout? Do you use a rocker switch (hopefully you understand my wording? Perhaps isolating rocker is better) as it was required by Märklin about 20 years ago?

Regards

Wolfgang




Hi Wolfgang. The tracks are separated and my CS2 will run the shuttle trains while I can drive trains on the main part of the layout with the new CS3. There is no connection between both parts of the layout and they have separate transformer/power packs. While I am setting up the CS3 one part of the layout can continue running.
Thanks for your comment.

David



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#32 Posted : 17 December 2018 00:59:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post

Hi David,

why don't you use your CS 2 as a booster?


Doing that requires a bit of investigation first.

The CS3 needs to be a CS3+ to get the galvanically isolated output, and the CS2 needs to be a 60215, or you can use a 60214 above a certain hardware revision level to get galvanic isolation there.

If the checks are not made on the CS2 there is a risk of blowing up the output stage that drives the track.

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#33 Posted : 17 December 2018 10:21:45(UTC)
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Indeed! I have very small experience with a CS 2, at my MIST we use a CS 1. And it is a tragedy by speed and usage through other people.
It's a pity that Märklin does not make version 4.x of the CS1 software available to loyal customers. The CS1 with the latest software feels faster and more fluent than the CS2 with the latest software. OK, mfx registration still is slower.
MS1 and MS2 can be used with the CS1. As a test I even used my CS2 as a slave of my CS1.
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Offline David Dewar  
#34 Posted : 17 December 2018 11:59:07(UTC)
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Goofy will now go for a CS1 which appears to be the best lol. To be fair to Goofy he must be on his dealers Christmas card list.

Anyway Goofy let us know what you try next.
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#35 Posted : 17 December 2018 13:07:56(UTC)
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A bug they could fix, when you choose to shutting down under settings, the device will turn off black but get back up again, doing a second time it shutting down probably.

Mabey a time for a newstart with mDT3 Decoder Tool, as the release Mars 2017 doesn't work 100% with CS3.

Lots more engine sounds should be great!
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#36 Posted : 17 December 2018 13:16:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
I have no more CS3.
I get no CS3 updates coz I ain't no CS3.
You get no CS3 updates coz you ain't no CS3.
How could it be otherwise?

Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
The most important is that the digital system are complete 100% with the DCC advanced functional prof.
Good luck with your search.
I don't think there is an affordable system that is "100% complete" and "100% bug-free". It is very expensive to develop complex software without bugs. And developers can never be sure that the chips they are using are bug-free.
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Offline David Dewar  
#37 Posted : 17 December 2018 14:55:44(UTC)
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Tom is right all systems can have problems. Look at Windows which has been going for years and still has some problems. In todays world the more things a computer can do the more things that will go wrong. Providing updates can sort it and are easy to do then that is part of our hobby with controllers.
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Offline TEEWolf  
#38 Posted : 17 December 2018 18:53:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
I have no more CS3.

Aha,
is this one of your many jokes or is it true?

Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
I did sold it and did find out that the system are not 100% function perfect.

Aha,
but it would be much more helpful, if you would have been written about your findings and the not perfect functions. But I tell you: "nobody is perfect" - a very well know saying.

Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
The digital soft program in the CS3 are not 100% prof.

Aha,
first: what is a "digital soft program"? Have you ever seen a "analogue hard program"?
second: what is a 100% prof.?
third: again, do not forget: Nobody is perfect.


Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
So i decides to check after a new digital system later.
The most important is that the digital system are complete 100% with the DCC advanced functional prof.

Aha,
very wise to search later for something, which is not existing. Waiting for your rebuy of a CS 3 plus!Smile Laugh LOL

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#39 Posted : 17 December 2018 19:22:42(UTC)
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Nobody is perfect.


Analog is perfect; it have never had a bug, never had an update and still works. Drool

It must be the perfect system for Goofy. LOL

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Offline TEEWolf  
#40 Posted : 17 December 2018 19:47:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Indeed! I have very small experience with a CS 2, at my MIST we use a CS 1. And it is a tragedy by speed and usage through other people.
It's a pity that Märklin does not make version 4.x of the CS1 software available to loyal customers. The CS1 with the latest software feels faster and more fluent than the CS2 with the latest software. OK, mfx registration still is slower.
MS1 and MS2 can be used with the CS1. As a test I even used my CS2 as a slave of my CS1.


Do you want to tell me, I can connect my MS 2 without any danger by a Terminal 60125 or even directly to a CS 1?

Well, I understand why Märklin does not support a CS 1 anymore. E.g. you also do not get any support for a software named XP, well known as an operating system by Microsoft. As Microsoft Märklin wants to sell its actual products and do not support a product which even does not fit into its CAN bus. A CS 2 is still supported by Märklin, but this one fits into the CAN bus.
Offline David Dewar  
#41 Posted : 17 December 2018 21:23:40(UTC)
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I did have a CS1 and it was pretty poor. The screen resolution and even the colour was dreadful. Although it was Marklins first attempt which was made I think by ESU and thankfully we got the CS2 made I presume by another manufacturer. ESU does their own one which some on her do like and own and does look to have a better screen. I think Nev has an ESU. Anyway looking forward to Goofys next purchase. Is there a VIESMMANN COMMANDER which could be tried.
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Offline Minok  
#42 Posted : 17 December 2018 22:02:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
I have no more CS3.
I did sold it and did find out that the system are not 100% function perfect.
The digital soft program in the CS3 are not 100% prof.
So i decides to check after a new digital system later.
The most important is that the digital system are complete 100% with the DCC advanced functional prof.


You will find that there is no such thing as a 100% complete and perfect digital system by any manufacturer.
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Offline Minok  
#43 Posted : 17 December 2018 22:06:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Purellum Go to Quoted Post
Cool

Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Nobody is perfect.


Analog is perfect; it have never had a bug, never had an update and still works. Drool

It must be the perfect system for Goofy. LOL

Per.

Cool





Analog is far from perfect - you can only run ONE loco on a loop. The low speed characteristics are not very smooth. There is a lack of sound effects, animated pantographs or engineers, and no uncouplers built into the loco, nor controlling lighting inside the cabins/engine room.

But I guess that if one's metric is that a thing that does almost nothing can do little of it wrong, sure.
To whit: not having a model railroad is PERFECT at not giving you any model railroad related grief.
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Offline H0  
#44 Posted : 17 December 2018 22:20:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Do you want to tell me, I can connect my MS 2 without any danger by a Terminal 60125 or even directly to a CS 1?
You can safely do that.
To actually use the MS2 with the CS1, connect the MS2 trackbox to the sniffer port. Since version 3.0 the sniffer port supports DCC.


Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Well, I understand why Märklin does not support a CS 1 anymore.
Good that ESU still provide upgrades for the CS1.
Updates are very important for the reputation of a company IMHO. If Uhlenbrock would have delivered version 2.0 for the IB back in 2008 with all announced features, then maybe the IB would be my #1 controller nowadays. But alas some features promised in 2008 are still missing in 2018.
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#45 Posted : 29 December 2018 17:39:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Minok Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Purellum Go to Quoted Post
Cool

Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Nobody is perfect.


Analog is perfect; it have never had a bug, never had an update and still works. Drool

It must be the perfect system for Goofy. LOL

Per.

Cool





Analog is far from perfect - and no uncouplers built into the loco, nor controlling lighting inside the cabins/engine room.

Hi,
never heard of Telex; one function is possible with analog. Instead of Telex you could also wire smoke or any other feature you may think of. It is possible.
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#46 Posted : 29 December 2018 19:00:09(UTC)
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You can use Telex couplers in analogue operation - you can have that with purely analogue locos and with Delta locos.

With Delta you can use one function in analogue mode - for example interior lights in a railcar or such.
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Offline steventrain  
#47 Posted : 30 December 2018 17:36:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Seems Märklin don´t upgrade CS3 any more time? Blink


read here:

https://www.marklin-user...d-strange-Loco-behaviour

see post #46 - next update shall come in January 2019.



The update for the CS2 will be available in early 2019, the update for the CS3 follows after the International Toy Fair 2019.

https://www.marklin-user...al-49570-Crane-functions
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Offline TEEWolf  
#48 Posted : 30 December 2018 20:00:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post

The update for the CS2 will be available in early 2019, the update for the CS3 follows after the International Toy Fair 2019.

https://www.marklin-user...al-49570-Crane-functions


Hopefully, it will be shortly after the toy fair and not at the end of next year.Laugh
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