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morsing		#1 Posted : 24 August 2015 19:46:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 619 Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire		Hi, I'm a bit confused about which pickup shoe out of 73404-5-6 to get for lighting my coaches... Two are assymetrical, and one symetrical but no further description available? Thanks
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H0		#2 Posted : 24 August 2015 20:05:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,443 Location: DE-NW		Hi! The description for the coaches indicates interior lights 7330. Description for 73404 says that 2x73400+73404 can replace 7330 or 7335.
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morsing		#3 Posted : 24 August 2015 20:59:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 619 Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire		Thanks for that... So I'm also looking at this: http://www.gaugemaster.c...asp?code=MN72020&r=1 But just wondering how to connect each coach to ground? It doesn't come with the ground spring, does it, so what else do I need to buy? Thanks EDIT: Found it, it's this one: http://www.gaugemaster.c...asp?code=MN72050&r=1
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morsing		#4 Posted : 31 August 2015 18:43:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 619 Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire		I have a problem! I've fitted ground springs to two coaches now and on both coaches it stops the wheels spinning completely. That can't be right, is that normal? Thanks
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morsing		#5 Posted : 04 September 2015 15:48:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 619 Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire		Originally Posted by: morsing I have a problem! I've fitted ground springs to two coaches now and on both coaches it stops the wheels spinning completely. That can't be right, is that normal? Thanks No-one has any input to this? I'm guessing it's not normal, but it's done this on both the coaches I have fitted them to, so what am I doing wrong?
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RayF		#6 Posted : 04 September 2015 17:51:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		The ground springs bear on the axles so they are bound to create drag. Are you saying that the wheels cannot move at all after installing the springs? If they do move but are being braked excessively try bending the springs away from the axles slightly. If the wheels don't move at all then you must have done something wrong when reassembling the coach.
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morsing		#7 Posted : 06 September 2015 15:41:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 619 Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire		Originally Posted by: RayF The ground springs bear on the axles so they are bound to create drag. Are you saying that the wheels cannot move at all after installing the springs? If they do move but are being braked excessively try bending the springs away from the axles slightly. If the wheels don't move at all then you must have done something wrong when reassembling the coach. Hi, They won't move at all! Well, I have to press down with a force of many Kgs on the bogie to make the wheels spin when I move it along... I took the bogie off and had a closer look, and the problem appears to be that under one axle on each bogie, there are two plastic studs sticking up very close to the axle. There just isn't enough room for the tongue of the spring to sit betwen that and the axle... Marklin design flaw or did I buy the wrong spring? I'm sure this is listed as fitting these coaches.
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morsing		#8 Posted : 12 October 2018 13:54:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 619 Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire		Hi, Having setup my track again, I have re-visited the project of adding lighting to my coaches. I still can't get the wheels to spin... I don't get it. THanks
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twmarklinfan		#9 Posted : 12 October 2018 14:53:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/05/2015(UTC) Posts: 567 Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent, United Kingdom		Hi, This may sound silly, but I have done the same thing, have you checked the axles are correctly fitted back into the Bogie?
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David Dewar		#10 Posted : 12 October 2018 15:25:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,453 Location: Scotland		I would say the wheels are not fitted back correctly as said above. The ground springs do not stop the wheels from turning. Easy to check just pull out one of the ground springs and see if the wheels then turn. (almost time for my advert for Train Tech lighting lol)
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river6109		#11 Posted : 13 October 2018 02:07:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Views messages in topic : 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: David Dewar I would say the wheels are not fitted back correctly as said above. The ground springs do not stop the wheels from turning. Easy to check just pull out one of the ground springs and see if the wheels then turn. (almost time for my advert for Train Tech lighting lol) I think this topic is out of spin
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morsing		#12 Posted : 13 October 2018 10:30:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 619 Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire		I can't see anyway for wheels to be fitted wrongly. However, I think these two buggers are the culprits. They sit so close to the axle the metal doesn't fit. Do I cut them off?
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river6109		#13 Posted : 13 October 2018 13:12:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Views messages in topic : 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		strange, unless something went wrong when they put the undercarriage into the mold and weren't removed, how come the carriage doesn't move now did it move without infringements before ? what does the other bogie look like, is it the same ? John
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dickinsonj		#14 Posted : 14 October 2018 00:53:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,801 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Originally Posted by: river6109 what does the other bogie look like, is it the same ? John From the image posted you can see that it is clear under the other bogie. I am guessing that those are casting sprues which did not get removed during machining. If you want to mount an axle there I would say that you have to remove them. If you do that carefully no one but you and Märklin (and all of us) ever has to know.
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David Dewar		#15 Posted : 14 October 2018 11:55:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,453 Location: Scotland		The ground springs can go on either end of a coach. Are both ends the same on your coaches.
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twmarklinfan		#16 Posted : 14 October 2018 12:10:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/05/2015(UTC) Posts: 567 Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent, United Kingdom		The two buggers are there to hold the axles in place. I have had exactly the same issue, pushing the axles back into place the buggers do not separate enough and form a brake on the axle. The solution is to take a small screw driver and prise the top of the buggers away from the axle. The axle should drop a fraction and the buggers will close over the axle and the axle should spin freely again. It may take a bit of jiggling but it should work.
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morsing		#17 Posted : 14 October 2018 21:58:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 619 Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire		Problem solved! I can tell you that all my four coaches, on both bogies, have those pins. Don't understand why... I cut them off and it rolls a charm now :-) Thanks
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