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Offline Jaime  
#1 Posted : 13 April 2018 02:23:40(UTC)
Jaime

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Hi friends

I just purchase a Kof II 5579, my idea is to repaint and give it an aged look. I would like to place a sound decoder, I have been watching an ESU V4, may be mfx, (M4), What do you think? Has someone done it before?

Many thanks!!!

Jaime
Offline TEEWolf  
#2 Posted : 13 April 2018 02:49:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jaime Go to Quoted Post
Hi friends

I just purchase a Kof II 5579, my idea is to repaint and give it an aged look. I would like to place a sound decoder, I have been watching an ESU V4, may be mfx, (M4), What do you think? Has someone done it before?

Many thanks!!!

Jaime


The Köf II 5579 is gauge 1 and shall have a digital decoder already inside.

https://lokmuseum.de/sho...e=&SID=jixtsypqgahqf

But why not a new Märklin 60976 mSD3 decoder for a Diesel?

https://www.maerklin.de/...te/details/article/60976

Modellbahnshop Lippe gives you a 25% discount without postage.BigGrin

https://www.modellbahnsh...-de-p-0/ein_produkt.html
Offline Jaime  
#3 Posted : 13 April 2018 03:14:28(UTC)
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Ok, may be a good idea, but , the diesel sound in the mSD3 is a "generic" diesel sound? in ebay sellers offers Esu with especific kof sound . Can I to change the sound in the mSD3 decoder??

thanks !!
Offline TEEWolf  
#4 Posted : 13 April 2018 03:34:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jaime Go to Quoted Post
Ok, may be a good idea, but , the diesel sound in the mSD3 is a "generic" diesel sound? in ebay sellers offers Esu with especific kof sound . Can I to change the sound in the mSD3 decoder??

thanks !!


Poooh, I do not know the sound itself, but Märklin offers a huge new sound library.

https://www.maerklin.de/...undbibliothek-fuer-msd3/

The point is, you only can get all this information, data and files for downloading via the German Märklin webside. If you cannot find it sendme a PM please.

Also they offer sound projects for steam, Diesel and e-locos especially for the mSD3.

https://www.maerklin.de/...hruest-decoder-mld3msd3/

But I never heard the Diesel sound.
Offline Purellum  
#5 Posted : 13 April 2018 13:34:17(UTC)
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The already build in decoder of the 5579 is most likely a first generation 1-gauge digital decoder, which is basically a very primitive DCC decoder, and it will not run on a controller using the MM protocol. If at works on a multi protocol decoder; I don't know.

Märklin did have an offer for a few years in the 1990s, offering to exchange the older DCC decoder type to a newer, running on MM, so it is possible that your decoder has been changed; but in most cases locs sold on Ebay have the old type.

ESU has a decoder made for 0-gauge, it is smaller and cheaper than the XL-decoder; but big enough for the current consumption of a KöF.

https://www.modellbahnsh...-de-p-0/ein_produkt.html

I think ( but haven't tried ) that using a H0-decoder like the mSD3 will be too small; if you plan to put your KöF to work with plenty of wagons; but it is possible if you let it run alone or with very few wagons. I know some uses H0-decoders for the 5739 / 5740 "Rottenkraftwagen".

Per.

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Offline Jaime  
#6 Posted : 13 April 2018 14:43:02(UTC)
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Thanks Teewolf and Per.
Here an example, ESU v4 (for H0 and O) in the same model
please , watch the lasts photos.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/...966dc4fff76718%7Ciid%3A1
Offline Purellum  
#7 Posted : 13 April 2018 17:11:16(UTC)
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I know that some is using the small decoders in the KöFs; but I don't know how well it works if the KöF pulls many wagons.

On a small indoor layout it probably works well; but if you use it for long distance pulling of many wagons on your beautiful garden layout it might need a larger decoder.

However, the ESU decoders are over-current and over-heating protected; so I don't think you'll destroy anything by trying.

Per.


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