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Offline river6109  
#1 Posted : 23 March 2018 14:41:54(UTC)
river6109

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but its the best way to start a dead diesel loco, digital or analog

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Offline michelvr  
#2 Posted : 23 March 2018 14:47:22(UTC)
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vernuftig!

Ingenious! Clever design of the tractor.
Offline Br502362  
#3 Posted : 23 March 2018 14:54:54(UTC)
Br502362

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I have seen old fishing boats with same starting procedure
in Helsinki harbour in the 80's Laugh
Offline Bart  
#4 Posted : 23 March 2018 14:55:42(UTC)
Bart

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Please don't do this without wearing wooden shoes, as we all do in the Netherlands!
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#5 Posted : 23 March 2018 15:02:52(UTC)
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And I don't want you pilots trying this either.

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Offline michelvr  
#6 Posted : 23 March 2018 15:38:49(UTC)
michelvr

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Originally Posted by: Bart Go to Quoted Post
Please don't do this without wearing wooden shoes, as we all do in the Netherlands!



A real Dutch man wears wooden shoes, has a wooden head and doesn't listen! Woot

And I alway tell friends, God created the Earth but the Dutch made Holland. Blink





Offline river6109  
#7 Posted : 23 March 2018 16:58:23(UTC)
river6109

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Originally Posted by: michelvr Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Bart Go to Quoted Post
Please don't do this without wearing wooden shoes, as we all do in the Netherlands!



A real Dutch man wears wooden shoes, has a wooden head and doesn't listen! Woot

And I alway tell friends, God created the Earth but the Dutch made Holland. Blink







don't forget the wooden boats they've build for the Romans.Flapper

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Offline RayF  
#8 Posted : 23 March 2018 21:18:12(UTC)
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Using cartridges to start engines is an old trick. For a diesel engine it means you don't have to rely on a battery which may not have enough charge.

Aircraft used to have cartridge starters too. The Royal Navy Sea Venom fighters from the 1950s used them.

Also if you've ever watched the 2004 version of the film "The flight of the Phoenix" you have that nerve-wracking scene at the end when Dennis Quaid manages to start the engine on the very last cartridge! I find it a much more dramatic version than in the original film.

Ray
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Offline cookee_nz  
#9 Posted : 23 March 2018 21:53:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Using cartridges to start engines is an old trick. For a diesel engine it means you don't have to rely on a battery which may not have enough charge.

Aircraft used to have cartridge starters too. The Royal Navy Sea Venom fighters from the 1950s used them.

Also if you've ever watched the 2004 version of the film "The flight of the Phoenix" you have that nerve-wracking scene at the end when Dennis Quaid manages to start the engine on the very last cartridge! I find it a much more dramatic version than in the original film.



That is one of my favourite movies, and you are right, it's gripping and you're urging that engine to start - in the comfort of your home!

Saw it first time on the big screen and I'm sure the Mrs has the DVD - if not I shall ask her to add it to the bargain-bin search BigGrin - happy to watch it any time
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Offline PJMärklin  
#10 Posted : 24 March 2018 05:03:40(UTC)
PJMärklin

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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Using cartridges to start engines is an old trick. For a diesel engine it means you don't have to rely on a battery which may not have enough charge.

Aircraft used to have cartridge starters too. The Royal Navy Sea Venom fighters from the 1950s used them.

Also if you've ever watched the 2004 version of the film "The flight of the Phoenix" you have that nerve-wracking scene at the end when Dennis Quaid manages to start the engine on the very last cartridge! I find it a much more dramatic version than in the original film.



Thanks for your post and video Ray.

I had in the back of my mind that I read of this before.
A revisit reveals that it was first introduced on the Junkers Jumo 205 diesel engine in 1936

Further search found some interesting information :

https://en.wikipedia.org...i/Coffman_engine_starter

https://en.wikipedia.org...Aircraft_engine_starting


Regards,

Philip
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