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Jabez		#1 Posted : 25 August 2017 01:00:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/08/2016(UTC) Posts: 636 Location: Brussels		Exactly one year ago I decided to get back into the hobby and experience the new digital world. I thought a starter set and a couple of extra locos would set me up handsomely to play trains again, and that I would never use the MS2's full capacity for actively storing 10/11 locos. Today I took delivery of my 10th loco and will now need some Lok cards. Once caught, this disease can rage out of control
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franciscohg		#2 Posted : 25 August 2017 01:45:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,298 Location: Patagonia		Tell me about it.... Originally Posted by: Jabez Exactly one year ago I decided to get back into the hobby and experience the new digital world. I thought a starter set and a couple of extra locos would set me up handsomely to play trains again, and that I would never use the MS2's full capacity for actively storing 10/11 locos. Today I took delivery of my 10th loco and will now need some Lok cards. Once caught, this disease can rage out of control
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waorb		#3 Posted : 25 August 2017 02:35:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 868 Location: Brazil		sorry to say: incurable...
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river6109		#4 Posted : 25 August 2017 04:35:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,874 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		When you get to my age, buying locos becomes automatically, no shame, no regrets, just pure enjoyment and somehow I manage my finances like a millionaire until I fall asleep exhausted but there is always a new day to regain the spirit when the loco arrives and don't try to break the cycle or miss opportunities, you'll regret it ever after. John
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3rail4life		#5 Posted : 25 August 2017 06:04:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 426 Location: Northern California		Yes, the disease is real and it can last a lifetime... but you may not need those loco cards just yet. The internal loco list on the ms2 holds up to 40 locos, so you just need to free one of the existing ten from the main screen to add the next, the freed loco's data remains available to be called up from the list when you want it back. Gordon
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xxup		#6 Posted : 25 August 2017 06:09:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,584 Location: Australia		The disease is moderated by your FD.. This is the pain I am going through this year.. If you don't have a FD, then you should get one as they can very very useful..
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sjbartels		#7 Posted : 25 August 2017 06:37:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/08/2015(UTC) Posts: 1,091		Originally Posted by: xxup The disease is moderated by your FD.. This is the pain I am going through this year.. If you don't have a FD, then you should get one as they can very very useful.. Useful..... interesting word choice mate! Mine went into my train room the other day... yeah, am I in the dog house right now!
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H0		#8 Posted : 25 August 2017 08:19:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,441 Location: DE-NW		Hi! Originally Posted by: Jabez Today I took delivery of my 10th loco and will now need some Lok cards. The MS2 can handle 40 locos without loco cards. (Small reminder for noobs reading here.) Good to come up with a naming pattern for locos at some stage. Same problem with loco cards unless you stick photos of the locos onto the cards. Going by photo becomes difficult the more black locos with red wheels you get. I started with a Delta Control and "problems" started with the 6th loco - and no loco cards for the rescue. Well - problems started earlier when I got a loco with whistle and long-distance headlights which I couldn't try with the Delta Control ... 40 is a comfortable limit.
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Bigdaddynz		#9 Posted : 25 August 2017 08:23:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,769 Location: New Zealand		The disease has a name......'Marklinitis'..........and it is highly contagious. There is no known cure.
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RayF		#10 Posted : 25 August 2017 08:43:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		I agree! Totally incurable... I have loco number 163 on order so I should know!
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xxup		#11 Posted : 25 August 2017 08:47:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,584 Location: Australia		sjbartels wrote: Useful..... interesting word choice mate! Mine went into my train room the other day... yeah, am I in the dog house right now! Geez.. You want to get out of there quickly, there is a hurricane headed your way..
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Legless		#12 Posted : 25 August 2017 09:22:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/07/2007(UTC) Posts: 809 Location: Leopold, Victoria		Originally Posted by: H0 Hi! Originally Posted by: Jabez Today I took delivery of my 10th loco and will now need some Lok cards. The MS2 can handle 40 locos without loco cards. (Small reminder for noobs reading here.) Good to come up with a naming pattern for locos at some stage. Same problem with loco cards unless you stick photos of the locos onto the cards. Going by photo becomes difficult the more black locos with red wheels you get. I started with a Delta Control and "problems" started with the 6th loco - and no loco cards for the rescue. Well - problems started earlier when I got a loco with whistle and long-distance headlights which I couldn't try with the Delta Control ... 40 is a comfortable limit. Or you could buy a CS3 and just say you couldn't use the MS anymore. Then you can try and fill the memory with more locomotives. 🤣
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ktsolias		#13 Posted : 25 August 2017 10:20:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/05/2016(UTC) Posts: 623 Location: Athens		Hi to all The disease never cured... May be stay inactive for years but some time comes back worse than before... I stop in 1990 after a house move and the disassembly of my layout. I start again two years ago. A cousin of me gave me as present one MS2 complete because he bought the CS2. I find 9 analog locos from these years... Now I am waiting for my 51st Loco. Half of them are digital and the others are on the waiting to be converted... I am planing my new digital layout... I have really very nice time now that I have time to give to the hobby. The hobby needs three things: Time, Space, Money !!!! Best regards Costas By the way a second MS2 (sold under 100 Euros) can give you direct access to another 10 locos, (or 40 + 40 you can have 80 locos without the need of reprogramming or cards.
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H0		#14 Posted : 25 August 2017 11:07:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,441 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: ktsolias By the way a second MS2 (sold under 100 Euros) can give you direct access to another 10 locos, (or 40 + 40 you can have 80 locos without the need of reprogramming or cards. 40+40 rather makes 40 than 80 in this case. 40+40=80 only works with only one MS2 connected sometimes. Rather inconvenient.
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hwestl		#15 Posted : 25 August 2017 11:49:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2007(UTC) Posts: 82 Location: Ystad, Sweden		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: ktsolias By the way a second MS2 (sold under 100 Euros) can give you direct access to another 10 locos, (or 40 + 40 you can have 80 locos without the need of reprogramming or cards. 40+40 rather makes 40 than 80 in this case. 40+40=80 only works with only one MS2 connected sometimes. Rather inconvenient. I have the impression that the data is stored in the trackbox and not in the handheld device. The reason is that if you connect a second MS2 it will be a slave, and on that you can only use the locos that exists on the master. Also that with my app I can control locs that have never been enterd into the MS2. What I mean is that the trackbox is the actual computer and the MS2 is only an interface to it. Regards Håkan
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H0		#16 Posted : 25 August 2017 12:06:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,441 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: hwestl I have the impression that the data is stored in the trackbox and not in the handheld device. The reason is that if you connect a second MS2 it will be a slave, and on that you can only use the locos that exists on the master. The trackbox is the trackbox, but the shared loco list is stored on the Master MS2. Sometimes you plug in a second MS2 - and the second MS2 becomes the Master and the first MS2 changes from Master to Slave and the shared loco list also changes. Master MS2 is the device with the lowest serial number.
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jcrtrains		#17 Posted : 25 August 2017 12:37:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/10/2009(UTC) Posts: 609 Location: Toronto, Ontario		Fortunately I have no digital constraints and my wife and I keep separate finances. I remind her that I do not count the Hermes scarf boxes when a parcel gets noticed. I felt no shame ordering loco number 220 something this week ( special edition one of 25!).
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analogmike		#18 Posted : 25 August 2017 12:47:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: NEW JERSEY, USA		Hello Jabez, I remember when I had 10 loks. Such a nice round number. Then, when I got to 11, I thought that 20 was the next goal of completion. After 20, 50 seemed to be the next comfortable stopping point. 51 made me look toward the 100 mark which was streamlined by the internet. Recently I hit 101.........Now what? Mikey
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Danlake		#19 Posted : 25 August 2017 13:16:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/08/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,571		Mine comes and goes - normally follow the seasons. Joke aside regarding the constant temptation to buy more and more... Remember when you were a kid a you just had a small oval and 1 train... The joy of running this I have found that I don't actually get more joy of buying more trains. I tend to have 3-4 favorites I use on the layout all the time It's not popular saying (unless your passion is collection), but if you don't find happiness on the layout with 10 trains, don't expect it will come with 100 trains Brgds Lasse
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sjbartels		#20 Posted : 25 August 2017 18:48:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/08/2015(UTC) Posts: 1,091		Originally Posted by: xxup sjbartels wrote: Useful..... interesting word choice mate! Mine went into my train room the other day... yeah, am I in the dog house right now! Geez.. You want to get out of there quickly, there is a hurricane headed your way.. Yeah, it's going to get a little wet here for sure....
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franciscohg		#21 Posted : 25 August 2017 19:55:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,298 Location: Patagonia		Originally Posted by: Danlake It's not popular saying (unless your passion is collection), but if you don't find happiness on the layout with 10 trains, don't expect it will come with 100 trains Brgds Lasse Absolutely, but if you found it with one..... Well, my wallet can tell you more about it
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1borna		#22 Posted : 25 August 2017 21:48:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/12/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,482 Location: Hrvatska		While I was small and Marklin's catalog was slim with a few pages ... I figured I would one day have all the locomotives and wagons from the catalog! However, as I grew up, so was the catalog thicker and richer models so I finally realized that I would never have it all? Today, I am looking forward to every new locomotive, but this can not be compared with cheerfulness at the first locomotives. Since I have passed the number of 150 locomotives I have decided that I will not take a new one until I sell some of the duplicates or models that I do not like or fall into the collection I do not have enough space or time to play with everyone. I try to gather some of the loyal models of locomotives that are driving to Yugoslavia or now in Croatia, here are two unfinished unique locomotives
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xxup		#23 Posted : 25 August 2017 23:02:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,584 Location: Australia		Now that's a great goal.. Pick a catalogue from your birth year and set a goal of owning every item in THAT catalogue. If you were born before the first catalogue, then select the 1957 catalogue.
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LA2019		#24 Posted : 26 August 2017 00:59:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/11/2012(UTC) Posts: 353		Originally Posted by: analogmike Hello Jabez, I remember when I had 10 loks. Such a nice round number. Then, when I got to 11, I thought that 20 was the next goal of completion. After 20, 50 seemed to be the next comfortable stopping point. 51 made me look toward the 100 mark which was streamlined by the internet. Recently I hit 101.........Now what? Mikey I believe the logarithmic scale would dictate that your next value would be 200. No time like the present Mikey; better get cracking on that next nut!
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analogmike		#25 Posted : 26 August 2017 02:01:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: NEW JERSEY, USA		Originally Posted by: LA2019 Originally Posted by: analogmike Hello Jabez, I remember when I had 10 loks. Such a nice round number. Then, when I got to 11, I thought that 20 was the next goal of completion. After 20, 50 seemed to be the next comfortable stopping point. 51 made me look toward the 100 mark which was streamlined by the internet. Recently I hit 101.........Now what? Mikey I believe the logarithmic scale would dictate that your next value would be 200. No time like the present Mikey; better get cracking on that next nut! If I get cracking on that 200 nut too soon the FD is gonna crack mine! Mikey
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baggio		#26 Posted : 26 August 2017 03:58:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/09/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,730 Location: Toronto		Originally Posted by: xxup The disease is moderated by your FD.. FD
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baggio		#27 Posted : 26 August 2017 04:05:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/09/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,730 Location: Toronto		Originally Posted by: H0 Master MS2 is the device with the lowest serial number. I have bought a starter set with a black Ms2 but the gray one keeps on being the master,; I don't seem to be able to turn one into the other. Am I missing something?
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baggio		#28 Posted : 26 August 2017 04:28:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/09/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,730 Location: Toronto		I, too, gravitate around 3 or 4 locos I like most: my Italian Stallion (FS424), usually with the lighted red double decker wagons inside; Ice Train; the 30000 and the latest acquisition: the 30390 - I also use all the time my entertainment car to which I have added Italian songs. The other locos, I like them and use them from time to time, but not regularly. The best fun for me is to plan and carry out constant changes to the layout - the biggest change being the addition of the helix and therefore the second level. I am already planning a major overhaul!
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H0		#29 Posted : 26 August 2017 07:26:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,441 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: baggio FD Still haven't bookmarked this list, have you: https://www.marklin-user...tionary-of-Abbreviations Originally Posted by: baggio Originally Posted by: H0 Master MS2 is the device with the lowest serial number. I have bought a starter set with a black Ms2 but the gray one keeps on being the master,; I don't seem to be able to turn one into the other. Am I missing something? The nice medium-grey MS2 will always be the master I'm afraid, there is no known way to make the funeral-coloured MS2 the master. I have MS2s with green and red speed knobs. The "green button" always is the master. Positive side-effect: you can tell the master from the colour (speed knob in my case, device colour in your case).
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baggio		#30 Posted : 26 August 2017 08:04:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/09/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,730 Location: Toronto		Thank you, HO, for the explanation with respect to the MS2. As far as the abbreviations that somehow I am supposed to review when reading posts, sorry, but I viscerally refuse to have to go to secondary materials just because someone prefers to write in code. This is a forum about trains, not a CIA forum. One is free to use code, and if he is not clear to all, so be it. That is the chance one takes when one does not write in plain English. It's more the loss of the writer than the reader's. That's how I see it anyway. (Incidentally, in normal writing, one usually uses an expression and then puts it in abbreviated or other form in brackets right after if the same phrase is repeated. This makes it clear to anyone what one is trying to say. In this case, assuming that "FD" means "significant other" one could say "My significant other ("FD") won't let me buy trains. Yet, FD buys expensive scarves. Not fair.")
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H0		#31 Posted : 26 August 2017 08:30:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,441 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: baggio As far as the abbreviations that somehow I am supposed to review when reading posts, sorry, but I viscerally refuse to have to go to secondary materials just because someone prefers to write in code. This is a forum about trains, not a CIA forum. MS2 is an abbreviation, CIA is an abbreviation. Which abbreviations are common knowledge and approved by baggio, which are special and not allowed on this forum? And yes, we had that discussion before, but I'm too lazy to search for it.
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Bigdaddynz		#32 Posted : 26 August 2017 11:02:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,769 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: xxup Now that's a great goal.. Pick a catalogue from your birth year and set a goal of owning every item in THAT catalogue. If you were born before the first catalogue, then select the 1957 catalogue. Hmmmm, we have someone in our club who did just that. 1952 was the year, and he has every item from that year's catalog.
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Bigdaddynz		#33 Posted : 26 August 2017 11:06:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,769 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: H0 ...but I'm too lazy to search for it. Likewise!
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baggio		#34 Posted : 26 August 2017 13:28:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/09/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,730 Location: Toronto		Originally Posted by: H0 Which abbreviations are common knowledge and approved by baggio, which are special and not allowed on this forum? If you read my e-mail again, HO, you will see that I approve or disapprove nothing. I simply refuse to look for a list of abbreviations that are not in common use. That's all. (If a reader does not know what an MS2 is (in a Marklin forum, that is) or, indeed, what "CIA" means, then....) It's in the writer's own interest to be as clear as possible in order to be understood, hopefully, by all. If the writer chooses to to otherwise, I choose to ignore that portion of the writing that is unclear to me.
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Thewolf		#35 Posted : 26 August 2017 14:12:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 2,078 Location: Cowansville, QC		Originally Posted by: baggio Originally Posted by: H0 Which abbreviations are common knowledge and approved by baggio, which are special and not allowed on this forum? If you read my e-mail again, HO, you will see that I approve or disapprove nothing. I simply refuse to look for a list of abbreviations that are not in common use. That's all. (If a reader does not know what an MS2 is (in a Marklin forum, that is) or, indeed, what "CIA" means, then....) It's in the writer's own interest to be as clear as possible in order to be understood, hopefully, by all. If the writer chooses to to otherwise, I choose to ignore that portion of the writing that is unclear to me. I agree a litle with Baggio. To use abbreviations in a intensive way is the equal of the language of the walrus, for me. I accept abbreviations used in a very moderate way, as far as I am not obliged to refer in the long list . In this case, the post does not interest me Thewolf
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Rwill		#36 Posted : 26 August 2017 16:16:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/05/2015(UTC) Posts: 777 Location: England, London		Not sure what CIA stands for - does it still exist in these strange modern times? - so you can choose any one of the following 117 possibilities: http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/CIA The same dictionary gives 101 possible meaning for FD including my favourite - floppy dick If you want to discuss MS1,2 and 3 look no further than the Megasquirt support forum
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kiwiAlan		#37 Posted : 26 August 2017 16:32:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,463 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: baggio Originally Posted by: H0 Which abbreviations are common knowledge and approved by baggio, which are special and not allowed on this forum? If you read my e-mail again, HO, you will see that I approve or disapprove nothing. I simply refuse to look for a list of abbreviations that are not in common use. That's all. (If a reader does not know what an MS2 is (in a Marklin forum, that is) or, indeed, what "CIA" means, then....) It's in the writer's own interest to be as clear as possible in order to be understood, hopefully, by all. If the writer chooses to to otherwise, I choose to ignore that portion of the writing that is unclear to me. Well, FD is in common use on these forum pages ... commonly used to refer to Financial Director.
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H0		#38 Posted : 26 August 2017 19:04:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,441 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Well, FD is in common use on these forum pages ... More common than CIA. It seems the popularity of SWIMBO is sinking.
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baggio		#39 Posted : 26 August 2017 19:57:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/09/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,730 Location: Toronto		Originally Posted by: H0 It seems the popularity of SWIMBO is sinking. Swimming with a bimbo?
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franciscohg		#40 Posted : 26 August 2017 20:09:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,298 Location: Patagonia		oh.....but not in the sight of the SWIMBO
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baggio		#41 Posted : 26 August 2017 20:49:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/09/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,730 Location: Toronto		Originally Posted by: franciscohg oh.....but not in the sight of the SWIMBO ...or of the Financial Director ("FD") who oversees everything. In addition, the FD may take serious offence to swimming with the bimbo. FD's first and foremost objective is to buy things only for FD and no-one else.
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Thewolf		#42 Posted : 26 August 2017 22:01:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 2,078 Location: Cowansville, QC		Originally Posted by: baggio Originally Posted by: franciscohg oh.....but not in the sight of the SWIMBO ...or of the Financial Director ("FD") who oversees everything. In addition, the FD may take serious offence to swimming with the bimbo. FD's first and foremost objective is to buy things only for FD and no-one else. call the Fire Department (FD) if the office of the financial director (FD) is on fire
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Jabez		#43 Posted : 27 August 2017 02:01:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/08/2016(UTC) Posts: 636 Location: Brussels		Originally Posted by: Thewolf To use abbreviations in a intensive way is the equal of the language of the walrus, for me. What's the language of the walrus? The only one I heard of talking spoke in English as follows: The time has come,' the Walrus said, To talk of many things: Of shoes — and ships — and sealing-wax — Of cabbages — and kings — And why the sea is boiling hot — And whether pigs have wings.' Jabez
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Jabez		#44 Posted : 27 August 2017 02:28:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/08/2016(UTC) Posts: 636 Location: Brussels		Originally Posted by: Legless Or you could buy a CS3 and just say you couldn't use the MS anymore. Then you can try and fill the memory with more locomotives. 🤣 That's what I hear a little voice persuading me to do--although I wouldn't retire the MS2 Seriously though, I have followed the voluminous correspondence here about the CS3 vs other brand controllers and the earlier Maerklin versions like CS2. I see nothing to persuade me that when I upgrade I should pick anything other than the Maerklin product, ie. the CS3 or CS3+. The CS3+ extra features like the ability to use it linked to other CS3+ controllers is of no interest to me, and the direct linkage to an S88 doesn't seem a big deal compared to requiring an L88 link. Jabez
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Legless		#45 Posted : 27 August 2017 06:23:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/07/2007(UTC) Posts: 809 Location: Leopold, Victoria		Just go CS3
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DV		#46 Posted : 27 August 2017 09:13:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/11/2009(UTC) Posts: 957 Location: Mount Barker, South Australia		Originally Posted by: Legless Just go CS3 Ditto
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Goofy		#47 Posted : 27 August 2017 10:02:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Originally Posted by: DV Originally Posted by: Legless Just go CS3 Ditto NY=Not Yet Recommended
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Jabez		#48 Posted : 28 August 2017 00:52:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/08/2016(UTC) Posts: 636 Location: Brussels		Originally Posted by: Goofy NY=Not Yet I suppose this may be good advice for someone already in possession of a CS2 or other powerful controller, if you want to upgrade you should wait until the CS3 has become a more mature product. But if you only have an MS2 or similar and your expanded layout requires an upgrade to a more powerful controller, is not the CS3 even in its present form the obvious choice? Jabez PS Mods, this discussion has veered away a bit from my original light-hearted comments about the MRR bug and you might want to shift my post about CS3 and the subsequent replies into a digital thread for easier retrieval.
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DB Fan		#49 Posted : 28 August 2017 04:04:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2016(UTC) Posts: 273 Location: Colorado		To bring it back on " Track" I got into Marklin about 1 1/2 years ago and got a little carried away. I think I'm about at 30-35 engines, 2 turntables, about 100 rolling stock of various manufactures and a lot of M track and some C track. Most of the engines are Analog and some are digital. You could say that I caught the marklin bug and I'm loving it. Happy Model Railroading Robert
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Goofy		#50 Posted : 28 August 2017 07:01:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Originally Posted by: Jabez Originally Posted by: Goofy NY=Not Yet I suppose this may be good advice for someone already in possession of a CS2 or other powerful controller, if you want to upgrade you should wait until the CS3 has become a more mature product. But if you only have an MS2 or similar and your expanded layout requires an upgrade to a more powerful controller, is not the CS3 even in its present form the obvious choice? Jabez PS Mods, this discussion has veered away a bit from my original light-hearted comments about the MRR bug and you might want to shift my post about CS3 and the subsequent replies into a digital thread for easier retrieval. It was recommended by of other members here in the forum. In fact does software program in the CS3 seems not work correct and there some bugs to fix it first. I did visit an hobbystore and did tested CS3.
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