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Offline Thewolf  
#1 Posted : 15 August 2017 22:46:17(UTC)
Thewolf

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Hi all Cool

I decided during the reconstruction of my layout not to use anymore marklin plugs and sockets

I want to buy a digital soldering station.

I believe the mark Weller would be best ... but it is too expensive

Do you have suggestions on this matter?

Thank you for your reply

Thewolf
Project The Richelieu Valley Railway-CS2-Track C- Itrain-Digital
Offline michelvr  
#2 Posted : 15 August 2017 23:53:57(UTC)
michelvr

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Velleman solder station

The best bar none!

Sayal Electronics and Hobbies

Regards,

Michel
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Offline siroljuk  
#3 Posted : 16 August 2017 15:28:45(UTC)
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Hello.

I bought such a STAMOS soldering station from Germany and it is a good soldering station with hot air blower nozzles and several solder blades. Good and cheap

STAMOS S-LS-17

.STAMOS.JPG

Regards

Jukka
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Offline michelvr  
#4 Posted : 16 August 2017 15:39:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: siroljuk Go to Quoted Post
Hello.

I bought such a STAMOS soldering station from Germany and it is a good soldering station with hot air blower nozzles and several solder blades. Good and cheap

STAMOS S-LS-17

.STAMOS.JPG

Regards

Jukka


Hello Jukka,

Very nice too bad we can not buy that in Canada! I like the hot air blower would be a great benefit to blow away the fumes.

Regards

Michel
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Offline Thewolf  
#5 Posted : 16 August 2017 19:41:30(UTC)
Thewolf

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Thank you to Michel and Jukka Cool

I appreciated your advice Cool

Michel, ..sorry but I do not know how to read the description of the model on your photo

Thank you

Thewolf
Project The Richelieu Valley Railway-CS2-Track C- Itrain-Digital
Offline Minok  
#6 Posted : 16 August 2017 19:44:42(UTC)
Minok

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I've used the Weller WESD51 Digital Soldering Station (yeah, it is $137).

UserPostedImage

The key is the ability of the station to keep the temperature that you set it to. Note that doesn't mean that it has a display of a temperature -but that the temperature is actually the value indicated.

This lets you crank up the temp when soldering near plastic: counter intuitive, but a hotter iron means you can heat up the solder point on the rail quicker to get the wire soldered on fast, rather than a lower temp that will heat the rail for a longer period and cause the plastic ties to melt.

Or turn down the heat if soldering on a circuit board where you don't want to damage the electrical traces on the board.

Having a sponge (to keep the tip clean) a solid stand (to keep you from knocking the iron over or burning yourself or your work) and a solid temperature control are the key features. Other brands do that as well.

If you do more extensive electronics, then a station that has more capabilities such as de-soldering (for circuit board work) or heat-gun capability (for reflow soldering on spots, etc) can be usefull but is probably overkill for model railroad.


That said, a simple pencil iron can be sufficient if your only doing soldering of wires to tabs but for soldering to k-track rails and the like I'd want one with a lot of power.. .and you still need the stand and sponge in some form... and the pencil only ones have the main lead come out the back of the iron which is more stiff than the leads from the soldering stations. The station wires being more flexible make the iron a bit easier to maneuver.
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Offline TEEWolf  
#7 Posted : 17 August 2017 03:32:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Minok Go to Quoted Post
I've used the Weller WESD51 Digital Soldering Station (yeah, it is $137).
...
The key is the ability of the station to keep the temperature that you set it to. Note that doesn't mean that it has a display of a temperature -but that the temperature is actually the value indicated. ...


wow, only $137! I got more for you, a $137 is really not expensive. Blink Have a better price for you - get a look here:Cool

https://www.reichelt.de/...XD+2020&SEARCH=%252A

1.219 € = 1.438,34 $ (exchange rate from Aug 14th).Laugh

Seriously: I do have a very little and limited experience in soldering, but for what reason do somebody needs such an expensive station? I bought one for 20 € (which is 23,60 $).
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#8 Posted : 17 August 2017 06:23:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: michelvr Go to Quoted Post
...too bad we can not buy that in Canada! I like the hot air blower would be a great benefit to blow away the fumes.


Why not? These types of soldering stations are a dime a dozen off aliexpress. No different to buying your Marklin from Germany.

Soldering stations have been discussed in previous threads - will see if I can find tbem.

There was a Marklin branded station - check the 2005 catalog for a descrption. It isn't available now though.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#9 Posted : 17 August 2017 07:22:34(UTC)
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Offline Thewolf  
#10 Posted : 18 August 2017 13:07:50(UTC)
Thewolf

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Hi all Cool

Thanks to all for the advice

I think that I am going to order this :

http://www.cafr.ebay.ca/itm/162578083509

Have a nice day

Thewolf

Project The Richelieu Valley Railway-CS2-Track C- Itrain-Digital
Online PMPeter  
#11 Posted : 18 August 2017 15:10:14(UTC)
PMPeter

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Originally Posted by: Thewolf Go to Quoted Post
Hi all Cool

Thanks to all for the advice

I think that I am going to order this :

http://www.cafr.ebay.ca/itm/162578083509

Have a nice day

Thewolf



Be careful. Check the voltage. You need one that can operate on 120 V 60 Hz supply here in Canada.
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Offline Thewolf  
#12 Posted : 18 August 2017 15:23:34(UTC)
Thewolf

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Originally Posted by: PMPeter Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Thewolf Go to Quoted Post
Hi all Cool

Thanks to all for the advice

I think that I am going to order this :

http://www.cafr.ebay.ca/itm/162578083509

Have a nice day

Thewolf



Be careful. Check the voltage. You need one that can operate on 120 V 60 Hz supply here in Canada.


Oh yeah ...you're right ...I have forgotten this point



Project The Richelieu Valley Railway-CS2-Track C- Itrain-Digital
Offline Thewolf  
#13 Posted : 18 August 2017 16:38:59(UTC)
Thewolf

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I found this model in a company near me ... I am going to inquire .. this model seems to me correct for what I am going to make with

http://www.kge.ca/fr/pro...s-pour-le-hobbyiste.html
Project The Richelieu Valley Railway-CS2-Track C- Itrain-Digital
Offline Minok  
#14 Posted : 18 August 2017 20:35:43(UTC)
Minok

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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post


https://www.reichelt.de/...XD+2020&SEARCH=%252A

1.219 € = 1.438,34 $ (exchange rate from Aug 14th).Laugh

Seriously: I do have a very little and limited experience in soldering, but for what reason do somebody needs such an expensive station? I bought one for 20 € (which is 23,60 $).


There are always more expensive options. And what is expensive to one person isn't to another (eg I don't find $140 expensive, but others might find a soldering iron over $30 expensive).

Why would you need that - it has de-soldering capability, which is a critical feature if you are doing electronics/circuit board repair. It has special hollow tips and a vacuum system to allow the extraction of solder away from the boards to allow parts to be removed and replaced. And it does it in a reliable and rapid manner. There are small pump type systems and solder wicks that work ok for occasional work, but if your working on a lot of stuff day in and day out such an expensive part is worth the money in time saved and other material costs as well as reliability.

Same goes for fume extraction systems - some just are fans that pull the smoke/air/paint away from the face but blow it out the back of the hood and back into the room - so you breath it later at a lower concentration, or it settles over the room. The more expensive ones blow the air through a set of filters and media that removes the non-air substances from the extracted air and blow the cleaned air back into the room.

For the MRR hobby where soldering is a very occasional thing, but you work around plastics - to be easier to work, a $100 station is a good option, but a $30 pencil iron will do for many and just needs a bit more care in use and is slightly harder to use.
Toys of tin and wood rule!
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https://youtube.com/@intercity134
Offline DB Fan  
#15 Posted : 18 August 2017 20:59:48(UTC)
DB Fan

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Originally Posted by: Thewolf Go to Quoted Post
I found this model in a company near me ... I am going to inquire .. this model seems to me correct for what I am going to make with

http://www.kge.ca/fr/pro...s-pour-le-hobbyiste.html


That is a great soldering station. I have the same one and it works great for soldering on my engines and other model train items. I found mine online for about $45.00 2 years ago. Was ether amazon or eBay. Also bought a starter kit for soldering and a set of different soldering tips for it as well. Have fun with it.

Happy Model Railroading

Robert
Offline Darren W  
#16 Posted : 19 August 2017 18:23:12(UTC)
Darren W

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Check out the Hakko brand of soldering irons they are good and available here in Canada.

http://www.canadarobotix...fx888d-soldering-station

Cheers
Darren
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