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Goofy		#1 Posted : 30 July 2017 14:07:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Are you satisfied with Insider Lok and no errors have occurred within 5 years warranty?
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Purellum		#2 Posted : 30 July 2017 14:12:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Originally Posted by: Goofy Are you satisfied with Insider Lok and no errors have occurred within 5 years warranty? Which loco are you talking about ?? Per.
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Goofy		#3 Posted : 30 July 2017 15:07:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Originally Posted by: Purellum Originally Posted by: Goofy Are you satisfied with Insider Lok and no errors have occurred within 5 years warranty? Which loco are you talking about ?? Per. Read what i did wrote...Insider Lok within 5 years warranty.
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steventrain		#4 Posted : 30 July 2017 16:39:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		Both MHI and Insider locomotives will be 5 years warranty. The other locomotives/controller etc still 2 years warranty. For me MHI/Insider nothing found faulty so far but only one 37126 decoder fault and send to marklin and return 4 weeks later, Very satisfied with it.
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steventrain		#5 Posted : 30 July 2017 16:51:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		I heard some dealers stopping take for repair but You can send fault items direct to Marklin. Wrote from one Holland dealer - Google translate. Our Loyal Märklin / Trix Repair-partner keuterman is going to stop! After 35 years of operation with more than 60.000 repairs, the will carry out the final repairs until this autumn. What does this mean to you? -- > Warranty repairs of märklin & Trix are to be sent directly to Göppingen (Märklin Factory). -- > ordering parts will not go any differently, we did this directly at märklin in göppingen. -- > the conversion of older (analogue) Märklin Locomotives will be carried out on their own. The waiting period of a repair will depend on the number of repairs and the remainder. -- > have you already got a locomotive in repair? Don't worry because it's just being repaired according to the appointments made! We want to thank gerrit keuterman and his colleagues very much for the very fine and long-term cooperation in recent years.
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Purellum		#6 Posted : 30 July 2017 18:29:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Originally Posted by: Goofy Read what i did wrote...Insider Lok within 5 years warranty. Märklin have had 5 years of warranty on insider locos since 2012. Which loco are you asking about ?? I hope the question is not too hard for you. Per.
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Goofy		#7 Posted : 31 July 2017 10:57:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Originally Posted by: Purellum Originally Posted by: Goofy Read what i did wrote...Insider Lok within 5 years warranty. Märklin have had 5 years of warranty on insider locos since 2012. Which loco are you asking about ?? I hope the question is not too hard for you. Per. *Read what i did wrote...Insider Lok within 5 years warranty.*
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kimballthurlow		#8 Posted : 31 July 2017 11:17:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,763 Location: Brisbane, Australia		Hi Goofy, To answer your question I have purchased a few Insider locos. Only one had to be sent back to Marklin. That was #39390 (Insider 2009). Within the first year, part of the valve gear became separated from its pivot point. The loco was sent by my dealer to Goppingen and returned within 8 weeks. It has not given trouble since. All other Insider locos behave well. regards Kimball
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steventrain		#9 Posted : 31 July 2017 11:23:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		Originally Posted by: Goofy *Read what i did wrote...Insider Lok within 5 years warranty.* Have you any Insider Loks? If any fault - Then send back to Marklin.
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H0		#10 Posted : 31 July 2017 11:29:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,441 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: Goofy Are you satisfied with Insider Lok and no errors have occurred within 5 years warranty? I left the Insider Club in 2014. I have only one Insider model covered by the 5-year-warranty and had no warranty cases with it. Most warranty cases occur within the first two years anyway. I had an issue while the warranty was only 2 years. Märklin resolved the issue within just eleven and a half months.
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Purellum		#11 Posted : 31 July 2017 11:45:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Originally Posted by: Goofy *Read what i did wrote...Insider Lok within 5 years warranty.* I am reading what you wrote; but it doesn't help me finding which loco you are asking about. All insider locos sold since 2012 are still within the 5 years warranty, including the Z-scale locos. The 2017 insider locos have not been delivered yet. Which loco are you referring to ?? Per.
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petestra		#12 Posted : 31 July 2017 12:42:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 5,862 Location: Leesburg,VA.USA		I have to send a Lok back to Germany this morning. It is under Garantie period. M should pay for shipping too. This is one problem with buying from Germany. Peter.
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PMPeter		#13 Posted : 31 July 2017 15:09:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/04/2013(UTC) Posts: 1,291 Location: Port Moody, BC		Originally Posted by: Purellum Originally Posted by: Goofy *Read what i did wrote...Insider Lok within 5 years warranty.* I am reading what you wrote; but it doesn't help me finding which loco you are asking about. All insider locos sold since 2012 are still within the 5 years warranty, including the Z-scale locos. The 2017 insider locos have not been delivered yet. Which loco are you referring to ?? Per. Per, I don't believe Goofy is referring to any particular Insider Lok. I think his question really is has anyone had any problems arise with Insider Loks during the 5 year warranty period.


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Purellum		#14 Posted : 31 July 2017 21:09:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Originally Posted by: PMPeter Per, I don't believe Goofy is referring to any particular Insider Lok. I think his question really is has anyone had any problems arise with Insider Loks during the 5 year warranty period. It could be; but in that case it would have been nice of him to answer my question, instead of just telling me to read again what he wrote. Per.
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GlennM		#15 Posted : 01 August 2017 00:52:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,969 Location: Somewhere, But Nowhere Near Manchester, England		Originally Posted by: Purellum Originally Posted by: PMPeter Per, I don't believe Goofy is referring to any particular Insider Lok. I think his question really is has anyone had any problems arise with Insider Loks during the 5 year warranty period. It could be; but in that case it would have been nice of him to answer my question, instead of just telling me to read again what he wrote. Per. Hej Må jeg spørge er du den danske Per, pilot fra Facebook?
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Purellum		#16 Posted : 01 August 2017 23:12:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Originally Posted by: GlennM Hej Må jeg spørge er du den danske Per, pilot fra Facebook? Jeg er dansker, og hedder Per; men jeg er ikke pilot, hverken I luften eller på Facebook. ( I am Danish, and my name is Per; but I'm not a pilot, neither in the air or on Facebook. ) Per. P.S: Actually I'm quite near you right now, GlennM, I'm on a ship in the docks of Barrow. Not a sailor; but getting ready to go out and install the new wind turbines at the Walney 3 extension.
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GlennM		#17 Posted : 02 August 2017 01:30:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,969 Location: Somewhere, But Nowhere Near Manchester, England		Originally Posted by: Purellum Originally Posted by: GlennM Hej Må jeg spørge er du den danske Per, pilot fra Facebook? Jeg er dansker, og hedder Per; men jeg er ikke pilot, hverken I luften eller på Facebook. ( I am Danish, and my name is Per; but I'm not a pilot, neither in the air or on Facebook. ) Per. P.S: Actually I'm quite near you right now, GlennM, I'm on a ship in the docks of Barrow. Not a sailor; but getting ready to go out and install the new wind turbines at the Walney 3 extension. Its a shame you did not say so earlier, we could have met and enjoyed a beer and some Marklin chat and run a few locos. Barrow is really quite close. A couple of years ago I too was involved with the Walney project with a former sister company Smulders. Enjoy your trip and I hope the weather stays fine, can be a little rough in the Irish Sea. All the best
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Goofy		#18 Posted : 03 August 2017 10:06:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Originally Posted by: Purellum Originally Posted by: PMPeter Per, I don't believe Goofy is referring to any particular Insider Lok. I think his question really is has anyone had any problems arise with Insider Loks during the 5 year warranty period. It could be; but in that case it would have been nice of him to answer my question, instead of just telling me to read again what he wrote. Per. Stick to my first post please and stop by fool like belarus! Other did answer my post gently. Why is that so hard to understand Purellum? And no you are not cool either.
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Purellum		#19 Posted : 03 August 2017 13:11:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Originally Posted by: Goofy Stick to my first post please and stop by fool like belarus! Other did answer my post gently. Why is that so hard to understand Purellum? And no you are not cool either. Once again you write something that I simply don't understand. "Stop by fool like belarus", I'm sorry; but it doesn't make any sense to me. I tried to help you, and asked you a simple question; but apparently you don't want to tell me which loco or locos you are referring to. Had you answered my simple, and gently asked, question; everything would have been much easier. Per. P.S: This is Belarus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus
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Goofy		#20 Posted : 04 August 2017 08:06:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		*READ MY FIRST POST AND STOP FOOL AROUND!!!*
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Purellum		#21 Posted : 04 August 2017 08:39:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Originally Posted by: Goofy *READ MY FIRST POST AND STOP FOOL AROUND!!!* Well, your first post refers to several different locos, which could be both H0- and Z-scale, and I'm still trying to figure out which one you mean. In the meantime you have been writing several times of fools and of Belarus etc.; but not in one single post written anything about the original topic. Per.
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xxup		#22 Posted : 04 August 2017 09:29:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,584 Location: Australia		I have locked the topic. I had no trouble understanding Goofy's question, which PMPeter took the trouble to relay to everyone nearly five days ago. Here is what he wrote, "I don't believe Goofy is referring to any particular Insider Lok. I think his question really is has anyone had any problems arise with Insider Loks during the 5 year warranty period." Personally, I think that this is a very good question and I am interested in hearing about the experiences of others, who buy Insider Locos. The Belarus in one of Goofy's posts is a bug in the forum software that, for some unknown reason, randomly swaps the word "us" for "Belarus". It is my view that there is a level of baiting going on here, which is also known as bullying, and must stop. Bullying is not funny!
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cookee_nz		#23 Posted : 04 August 2017 21:26:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 3,992 Location: Paremata, Wellington		Originally Posted by: xxup I have locked the topic. I had no trouble understanding Goofy's question, which PMPeter took the trouble to relay to everyone nearly five days ago. Here is what he wrote, "I don't believe Goofy is referring to any particular Insider Lok. I think his question really is has anyone had any problems arise with Insider Loks during the 5 year warranty period." Personally, I think that this is a very good question and I am interested in hearing about the experiences of others, who buy Insider Locos. The Belarus in one of Goofy's posts is a bug in the forum software that, for some unknown reason, randomly swaps the word "us" for "Belarus". It is my view that there is a level of baiting going on here, which is also known as bullying, and must stop. Bullying is not funny! I agree with Adrian on this. It will be obvious to any regulars on this forum that for Goofy, English is not his first language, and yet he persists, and does quite well. For those of us having English as our first language, some of his sentence structure may not be perfect, sometimes amusing. But that also gives us the advantage of making a pretty good attempt at figuring out what was trying to be said and to respond in kindness, not criticism. It was obvious to me also that Goofy was asking about 'any' loco. Instead of demanding a specific answer, perhaps to respond "do you mean a specific loco, or any loco?" would have been more friendly. In fact, (quote) "it would have been nice " (unquote) to do so. Steve
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Purellum		#24 Posted : 06 August 2017 21:53:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Apparently me asking Goofy a simple question is now seen as a personal attack. When I read "Insider lok" in the "5 years warranty"-topic, I were sure Goffy was referring to a lok, not several loks, and I just wanted clarification as to which loco he was writing about. Now it turns out that I should have known, that lok means loks, that "Belarus" is a software error changing the word "us", that asking a question is baiting / bullying, that the way I asked somehow was demanding an answer, and that "do you mean a specific loco, or any loco?" for some reason should be seen as friendly and nice, compared to "Which loco are you talking about ??", which now is seen as the opposite. I'm sorry to say that I knew none of this, that English is also not my first language, and I didn't even know that a topic locked for me allowed for others to rant on about what they think I did wrong, without giving me a chance to answer. I'm well aware that I sometimes make fun with Goofy, mostly when he tries to act like a technical guru on subjects he knows nothing about. One of the reasons for doing this, is that I don't want his misinformation left unanswered, which could lead to problems for others. I hope some of you will try to imagine how the "5 year warranty"-topic would have evolved, if just Goofy would have answered my initial question. Per. Moved Per's post to the relevant thread. /BDNZ
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