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Offline shettdpa  
#1 Posted : 18 June 2017 21:13:49(UTC)
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shettdpa

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Hi everyone,

A few days back I brought myself an analog 3060 Santa Fe lok and now I would like to digitalise it. For the time being, I have managed to figure the motor I would be using.

An 60943 High-Efficiency Motor Conversion Set would be the one. But am not able to figure out the type of decoder I would need to use. Well, my requirements would be:
  • Headlights and lighted number boards. Also I am planning to implement some sort of Mars Light

  • Diesel locomotive sound


I look up at some previous posts, but I was not able to fix on the type of decoder I would use.
Model 39621 happens to use some a decoder - (Part Nr.265158) : Would this be suitable for my application?

And to make things even more complicated, I would also use the Railuino platform t control my train.
So, could you guys help me with this, please.
Well, this happens to be my first train set that I have ever laid my hands on, and would like to get a lot going on it. Hope I haven't set the bar too highBigGrin

Regards,
Dipak
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#2 Posted : 18 June 2017 22:08:10(UTC)
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Personally I would use an ESU Loksound decoder, loaded with the appropriate sound file.

ESU also have built into their decoder the required functionality for a Mars light.

The other nice function they have is the so called "Full Throttle" (FT) function which is available with sound files that would suit this loco. The FT function allows you to separate the engine sounds from the loco speed, and run the engine in a prototypical manner as done in the USA. By using a function key once the loco is set at a speed you can then leave the loco running at that speed and the throttle now adjusts the engine revs sound to correspond with being set to higher revs to haul uphill, or throttled back to idle as you come down grade or into a station. ESU have a number of videos illustrating this functionality - but you don't have to use it like that if you don't want to.

If you are going to use the loco with a cs2 or cs3 then you can get the M4 variant of the Loksound decoder to use mfx.
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Offline Johnvr  
#3 Posted : 19 June 2017 08:06:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: shettdpa Go to Quoted Post
Hi everyone,

A few days back I brought myself an analog 3060 Santa Fe lok and now I would like to digitalise it. For the time being, I have managed to figure the motor I would be using.

An 60943 High-Efficiency Motor Conversion Set would be the one.



Please check whether the 60943 is correct, because this 60943 is for small motors.
Mine is a Large Motor. I am sure that I used a 60944 in my conversion.

Regards,BigGrin
John
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Offline foumaro  
#4 Posted : 19 June 2017 08:34:44(UTC)
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I upgraded my 3662 ATSF and 3462 Alaska Railroad F7 marklin locomotives,they are similar to your model, with 60941 motor and 60946 decoder.
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Offline ktsolias  
#5 Posted : 19 June 2017 09:05:55(UTC)
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ktsolias

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The 3060 use a SFCM
Of course as it was produced for many years (1961-1997) maybe there variation in the type of motor.
So the best is to post a photo of the motor.

So for the conversion with your specification you need:

1. 60943 HLA motor
2. 60976 or 60986 Märklin mSD/3 decoder. (I prefer the 60976 with the 21 pin board) Both decoders have light control and 4 more available functions... so are enough plus diesel sound with extended sound library from Marklin.

You can use of course an ESU lok pilot 4 with sound, or other decoder from other manufactures

The conversion is straightforward without any special problems

Have fun

Costas

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Offline ktsolias  
#6 Posted : 19 June 2017 20:12:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
I upgraded my 3662 ATSF and 3462 Alaska Railroad F7 marklin locomotives,they are similar to your model, with 60941 motor and 60946 decoder.


Panagiotis
you are correct both the above Locos use DCM motors.
But the 3060 was produced from 1961 DCM motor starts to be used in 1973
The 3662 is from 1992 DCM digital
The 3462 is from 1993 DCM DELTA

Regards

Costas
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Offline shettdpa  
#7 Posted : 19 June 2017 20:29:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Johnvr Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: shettdpa Go to Quoted Post
Hi everyone,

A few days back I brought myself an analog 3060 Santa Fe lok and now I would like to digitalise it. For the time being, I have managed to figure the motor I would be using.

An 60943 High-Efficiency Motor Conversion Set would be the one.



Please check whether the 60943 is correct, because this 60943 is for small motors.
Mine is a Large Motor. I am sure that I used a 60944 in my conversion.

Regards,BigGrin
John


Hi John,

I think I have a SFCM motor, and from what I have read, the 60943 kit is meant for this type of motor.

Regards,
Dipak
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Offline shettdpa  
#8 Posted : 19 June 2017 20:32:55(UTC)
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shettdpa

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Originally Posted by: ktsolias Go to Quoted Post
The 3060 use a SFCM
Of course as it was produced for many years (1961-1997) maybe there variation in the type of motor.
So the best is to post a photo of the motor.

So for the conversion with your specification you need:

1. 60943 HLA motor
2. 60976 or 60986 Märklin mSD/3 decoder. (I prefer the 60976 with the 21 pin board) Both decoders have light control and 4 more available functions... so are enough plus diesel sound with extended sound library from Marklin.

You can use of course an ESU lok pilot 4 with sound, or other decoder from other manufactures

The conversion is straightforward without any special problems

Have fun

Costas


Hi Costas,

I think I have an SFCM motor. Attached is the picture of the same. Also, the lok says, its Made in West Germany, so I guess it must be made sometime before the 1990's.

IMG_20170612_190635281.jpg

Thanks for the suggestion. Could you tell me what happens to be the difference between an Märklin decoder and a ESU decoder?

Regards,
Dipak
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Offline ktsolias  
#9 Posted : 19 June 2017 23:10:12(UTC)
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ktsolias

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Yes Dipak

This is a SFCM

The difference between the Marklin and ESU decoders is actually in this days in my opinion a matter of taste.

The ESU are more easy to alter the CVs (programming) also the sound data bank is more extended. But you must have the right stations. If you have an MS only I think that the mSD/3 are better.

I prefer to use Marklin decoders all the time.

Costas
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Offline foumaro  
#10 Posted : 20 June 2017 08:53:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ktsolias Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
I upgraded my 3662 ATSF and 3462 Alaska Railroad F7 marklin locomotives,they are similar to your model, with 60941 motor and 60946 decoder.


Panagiotis
you are correct both the above Locos use DCM motors.
But the 3060 was produced from 1961 DCM motor starts to be used in 1973
The 3662 is from 1992 DCM digital
The 3462 is from 1993 DCM DELTA

Regards

Costas


There are all exactly the same,and the 3181 Burlington Northern too,i forgot to mention her,i upgraded her with the same way.Anyway the 3462 Alaska is analog and not delta.
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Offline Johnvr  
#11 Posted : 20 June 2017 09:30:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Johnvr Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: shettdpa Go to Quoted Post
Hi everyone,

A few days back I brought myself an analog 3060 Santa Fe lok and now I would like to digitalise it. For the time being, I have managed to figure the motor I would be using.

An 60943 High-Efficiency Motor Conversion Set would be the one.



Please check whether the 60943 is correct, because this 60943 is for small motors.
Mine is a Large Motor. I am sure that I used a 60944 in my conversion.

Regards,BigGrin
John


Hello,

The 60943 is correct for this loco.

I went back to have a look at mine again, and I realize that my earlier statement about 60944 is incorrect.

My apologies, and thanks to members who pointed that out BigGrin

Regards,BigGrin
John
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