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Offline Donb  
#1 Posted : 14 April 2017 17:55:37(UTC)
Donb

Canada   
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Location: Fraser Valley
Hi,

Thought I would try making some Coal loads for the 4624 Hopper car.

First up, collecting some supplies:

1 inch foam insulation board
Flat Black spray paint
Woodland Scenics HO scale Coal. Lump , # B93
Woodland Scenics Scenic Cement
Woodlands Scenic small spray bottle
Pipette

1) I cut out the foam piece to fit the car, easy to do with xacto knife
2) I sprayed the foam piece Flat black
3) I loaded Coal on the piece and applied a fine spray of water to 'wet' the coal.
4) I applied the Scenic Cement with a Pipette, it flowed very well.
5) Waited for it to dry, then the finished product!

Easy. I have enough supplies to do many cars, of different types.

I could have ordered some very nice Coal Loads from Holger Sauer, but these turned out very nicely for less.

I will experiment with making 'piles', although I like the more or less level load look.

If you have any suggestions, please share!

Best Regards,
Don
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Offline Donb  
#2 Posted : 14 April 2017 17:57:48(UTC)
Donb

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Pics didn't get loaded in coorrect order, darn.
Best Regards,
Don
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Offline DaleSchultz  
#3 Posted : 14 April 2017 18:18:08(UTC)
DaleSchultz

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Originally Posted by: Donb Go to Quoted Post
Pics didn't get loaded in coorrect order, darn.


you can edit the post and move the pics about, preview then save.

good job!
Dale
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Offline Donb  
#4 Posted : 14 April 2017 19:08:33(UTC)
Donb

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Originally Posted by: DaleSchultz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Donb Go to Quoted Post
Pics didn't get loaded in coorrect order, darn.


you can edit the post and move the pics about, preview then save.

good job!


I was carefull to load them in order, but for some reason they displayed out of order?

Fixed now, thanks,

Best Regards,
Don
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Offline RayF  
#5 Posted : 14 April 2017 21:59:25(UTC)
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Nice job!

For my 4624 wagons I went for ready made loads I found on the internet for quite reasonable prices, but on other wagons I have made my own.
Ray
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Offline ShannonN  
#6 Posted : 23 April 2017 05:50:55(UTC)
ShannonN

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Location: Maryborough, Qld


While I haven't made my own loads yet, I did read somewhere that ppl are lining the car with tissue paper (the stuff you blow noses with) overlapping and covering most of the outer wagon, then they buy a small grain kitty litter, pour into car.

Level or heaping as needed then spray top black. cut and trim tissue. The tissue protects the car from paint overspray and the paint "glues" the top level together. Instant coal loads

Others say same kitty litter is good as track ballast and if left loose when and if it soaks humidity and discolours it can be vacumned up without damaging track?

Forum discussion see here

O scale video here

Blessings Shanny
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#7 Posted : 23 April 2017 06:18:56(UTC)
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Kitty Litter!!?? Pouring that into a hopper car would make the car quite heavy, get a dozen or more hopper cars that would make for a very heavy train. Hope you haven't got inclines on your layout, you will wear your locos out in no time.

I used a similar technique to Don's when putting ore loads into hopper cars to match up with my other Langer Heinrich ore cars. I also did the same thing with my 1 Gauge hopper cars when putting coal loads into those, although I used real coal for them. Take several lumps of coal and put them into a tin oven dish (preferably an old one - you don't want to upset SWMBO). Place an old rag over the tray to stop bits flying everywhere, then crush the coal with a hammer until you get the desired coal lump size.

Photo shows the line of coal cars, amongst others.

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Offline ShannonN  
#8 Posted : 23 April 2017 06:43:33(UTC)
ShannonN

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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Kitty Litter!!?? Pouring that into a hopper car would make the car quite heavy, get a dozen or more hopper cars that would make for a very heavy train. Hope you haven't got inclines on your layout, you will wear your locos out in no time.


Good point never thought of that, then again I could do the same as you with litter have to be as light as your crushed coal when finished ? reason being I don't have access to real coal to crush :)
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#9 Posted : 23 April 2017 08:57:38(UTC)
Bigdaddynz

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I used a foam insert just like Don has done, and glued the crushed coal to the foam. Otherwise a dozen G1 hopper cars full of coal would be far too heavy.

As for coal, supermarkets here in NZ sell it in 20kg and 40kg bags.
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Offline steventrain  
#10 Posted : 23 April 2017 10:47:03(UTC)
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Excellent work Don.
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Offline Jabez  
#11 Posted : 24 April 2017 00:44:40(UTC)
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Hitherto I have just used Noch or similar 'coal' to completely fill old style open HO coal trucks. The stuff is cheap enough, so I thought I might as well load them prototypically. Only if I run into weight problems would I bother to make dummy loads.
Tip. If you run steamers just sprinkle a pinch of the 'coal' you are bound to spill onto the 'coal' insert in the tender. No need to cover the whole surface, just a few shiny lumps of the fake coal will greatly enhance the realistic look of the dull-looking coal insert in a tender or tank loco.
Jabez
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Offline PMPeter  
#12 Posted : 24 April 2017 04:26:34(UTC)
PMPeter

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I found out a long time ago when I worked in the pulp and paper industry that the cartridge type safety respirators were filled with a charcoal that is very close to HO scale coal. Since these respirators needed to have their cartridges replaced after any use or even after a few months of sitting in a drawer I very quickly had a large supply of prototypical coal available from the unused expired cartridges.

I'm not sure if these types are still around, but if you use these check out the contents of the cartridge before throwing it in the trash.

Cheers
Peter
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Offline danmarklinman  
#13 Posted : 29 May 2017 11:16:40(UTC)
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Nice coal load, I have done the same, but with coal from Gaugemaster, in the U.K. This I think, is actually Coal. I stuck mine to styrofoam. I've tried scrap as well. And I'm now trying out steel loads. The Swiss Marklin wagon came with a wood load. But after seeing pictures of freight cars in the U.K. Of a similar type carrying steel girders, I've done the same. It's not quite finished yet. As I am going to rust the chains?
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