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BrandonVA		#101 Posted : 01 March 2016 21:20:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,533 Location: VA		I must say I am very partial to this layout, long runs and continuous operation with grades and a nice theme. Maybe next time
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Alsterstreek		#102 Posted : 12 March 2016 18:58:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Here the 160 x 160 cm coffee table adaptation. Again a feasibility study which needed fine-tuning before going live.
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Alsterstreek		#103 Posted : 12 March 2016 22:32:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Could the basic concept be condensed - with a decent main line run, say 10 m round trip? Yes, on 142 x 130 cm.
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kimballthurlow		#104 Posted : 13 March 2016 09:09:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,696 Location: Brisbane, Australia		Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Brainwashing, I mean brainstorming with, BrandonVA during the warming up phase for his new layout, I came up with this approach. Since he eventually made an U-turn to an U-shape, I allow myself to release this sketch to the interested general public. For operating, the layout needs access from at least two sides (for maintenance from three). A double-faced central backdrop creates a diorama feeling and makes the mainline scenery appear longer than it actually is. The river serves as scenic divider visually separating the tracks on the different river banks. Meant for continuous running on a two track mainline with the odd station stops, meets and passes plus limited switching and shunting. Dimensions: ca. 190 x 250 cm, i.e. roughly the size of a large bed. The radius of curves around the castle rock - viewed from outside - is wider, while the radius of the curves in the bridge areas - viewed from inside - is tighter. All switches/turnouts/points are easy to reach. The station stubs could serve a small river port; ships sailing upstream pass under the taller bridge while the lower bridge next to the quay hinders them to continue their journey, leading to an exchange of goods between water and rail transport. Well if I ever build a Pennsylvania layout for my brass and Trix 2 rail stuff, this will be it. Beauty. Thanks Ak and Brandon. regards Kimball
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BrandonVA		#105 Posted : 14 March 2016 18:22:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,533 Location: VA		Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Here the 160 x 160 cm coffee table adaptation. Again a feasibility study which needed fine-tuning before going live. Miniaturized appropriately. Looks like for European stock. Missing the shunter gatherer culture? :) -Brandon
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kimballthurlow		#106 Posted : 14 March 2016 23:04:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,696 Location: Brisbane, Australia		Originally Posted by: BrandonVA ....... Miniaturized appropriately. Looks like for European stock. Missing the shunter gatherer culture? :) -Brandon Hi Brandon, That is a splendid single track version of the aforementioned layout. Plenty of shunting facilities there if I may say. With a lead track and all. regards Kimball
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BrandonVA		#107 Posted : 17 March 2016 21:27:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,533 Location: VA		Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Hi Brandon, That is a splendid single track version of the aforementioned layout. Plenty of shunting facilities there if I may say. With a lead track and all. regards Kimball Kimball, Quiet right. I was really just poking Ak for his not so recent conversion to US roadpower ;) -Brandon
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Alsterstreek		#108 Posted : 18 March 2016 10:26:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		It seems as if I am missing the German shunter gatherer culture, just because I project a short train on an entangled single track line crossing its own path in a river valley - like in the historic Sauerland photo below? No, I leave the maintenance of that tradition to the esteemed brother in arms on the other side of the big pond. :o)
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Alsterstreek		#109 Posted : 09 May 2016 22:19:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		I am a big fan of two-faced layouts with a central divider allowing for separate sceneries. This Z-scale plan could be used in H0 scale, too: One one side is a downtown passenger terminal - boasting a engine turntable and express freight tracks - with passenger station tracks disappearing under a large overall roof, and on the other side a rural mainline scene. Earlier today, I presented already the urban side of this janus-headed layout - without mentioning the other rural side - in the planning thread of forum member applor for illustrating a scenery idea. Here is the rural side. And here the full design.
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Alsterstreek		#110 Posted : 21 June 2016 00:11:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Horseshoe mania - brainstorming on a 160 x 160 cm square cont´d. Twisted dogbone with stacked return loops; compared with posts 96 & 99 round trip run extended to +18 m. Keeping R1 curves in hidden return loops and increasing visible curves to R2 would result in a 185 x 185 cm square. Adding a station siding on the right side would add another 10 cm. Edited by user 21 June 2016 23:35:10(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Alsterstreek		#111 Posted : 23 June 2016 20:27:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Actually, 187 x 189 cm with R1 in return loops and R2 in visible areas.
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Alsterstreek		#112 Posted : 25 June 2016 13:20:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Expanded to a 200 x 200 cm double-bed-size square: Dual-track main line without S-curves in visible area and with a cool corner station, but inner circles purely R1 and no easements on the mainline up to now. Thus, still room for improvement, but now I am confident that this concept is doable on that surface. Btw: Compared with the "Wottah Horseshoe" concept presented in post no. 73, the main line trough the scenery portion is more prominent. :o) Here the artist´s perception: The crossover in front of the upper return loop tunnel portal allows a fast train uphill running on the "left" track to pass a slow uphill train on the "right" track and change over to the right track after the manouever (before becoming a downhill train meeting the still struggling slow uphill train). Edited by user 25 June 2016 21:37:43(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Alsterstreek		#113 Posted : 25 June 2016 15:32:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Reflecting on the 142 x 130 cm approach of post no. 103. The rollercoaster impression could be avoided by converting the continuous loop to a dogbone design. Like that the size grows to 142 x 200 cm. Then, stacking the return loops frees space for a station area.
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Alsterstreek		#114 Posted : 26 June 2016 00:10:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		My inspiration: :o)
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Alsterstreek		#115 Posted : 26 June 2016 15:41:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		(1) Proud owner of a a 26600 California Zephyr set, but no space to recreate the Feather River Canyon environment? (2) Proud owner of German class 85 steamer or class 44 electric whose stomping grounds were the Black Forest Hoellentalbahn and no space to recreate a plausible layout setting? Having 2 x 2 m space (equalling a the size of a double bed) but no clue what to do with it? Here comes a proposal, which could serve for either purpose. Minimum, radius in visible areas is R2. Easements everywhere. The return loops accommodate a 3 m long train, respectively. The three valley station tracks measure 160 to 185 cm in length. For both, return loops and station arrangement, there is still room for maneuver within the 2 x 2 m limit.
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Alsterstreek		#116 Posted : 26 June 2016 15:42:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		And here the artist´s perception based on the Californian approach. Initially, I envisaged using a double-sided backdrop to separate mountain and station areas, but I believe - due to the difference in altitude - that it could be socially acceptable to do without. EDIT: When the central divider is actually left away, Portuguese Creek should be placed in between the station area and the main line where the ramp is gaining altitude from 2 to 6 cm in order to add plausibility. Edited by user 26 January 2017 22:25:38(UTC)  | Reason: Info added.
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Alsterstreek		#117 Posted : 05 November 2016 22:58:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		My kind of layout: Designed by somebody else: http://www.ecmodell.at
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Alsterstreek		#118 Posted : 06 November 2016 19:26:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Translating the above into C track based on R1 curves results in a trii-level L-shaped surface with the outer legs measuring 155 x 155 cm. Bumper to bumper distance is 10 m. Height difference between lowest and highest tracks is about 20 cm. I am fascinated. Track inventory:
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Alsterstreek		#119 Posted : 20 December 2016 21:25:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Photos of a mock-up of a tri-level iteration of the theme of post no. 109 in Z scale on 1.1 sqm below. The planner intends to run era V trains. The main line is a dogbone circuit. The double track main line on the landscape side descends, dives under both the camouflaged main station loop and the branch line station level on top of the latter and ends in a return loop stacked under the cityscape level. A hanging valley squeezed into the open space between the hidden main line dog bone end loops offers great landscaping potential. The inner two main station sidings are through tracks, actually a double track balloon, a design which allows two mainline trains to meet and/or pass each other. The outer two spurs of the main station are stub tracks. The generous station throat trackage creates a big city station impression. Branch line passenger trains stop at a platform outside the large overall roof. Sometimes a prototypical situation in cluttered downtowns. Pro: All turnouts are in the open: Con: I don´t know if Z scale trains can cope with the slopes. For H0 models, this would be no problem. http://stummiforum.de/viewtopic.php?t=142821
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Alsterstreek		#120 Posted : 26 December 2016 00:48:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		A a two-faced circular N-scale with a central scenic divider. http://www.us-modellbahn...eadID=18809&pageNo=2
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Alsterstreek		#121 Posted : 11 January 2017 22:39:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Source unknown
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Alsterstreek		#122 Posted : 18 January 2017 23:27:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Further to posts 117 and 118. A minimalistic L-shaped feasibility study on 154 x 154 cm. Edited by user 24 January 2017 16:47:06(UTC)  | Reason: Lower level of track plan marked in red for better understanding.
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Alsterstreek		#123 Posted : 26 January 2017 19:40:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		News from another minimalist on Stummiforum, who dubbed this N scale design "four circles in a square". http://stummiforum.de/vi...ic.php?f=15&t=144494
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Alsterstreek		#124 Posted : 26 January 2017 19:56:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		An evolution by the same gent, now an urban scene - again without any turnout - representing an apron of a large station, allowing for some staging via stopping a train in the hidden section while making another one appear. Six trains can be operated simultaneously. N scale dimensions = 65x100 cm. On the second drawing the concept is further condensed, and an industrial spur - a shunter could shuttle on it back and forth - is bridging the mainlines. The upper loops are for suburban trains, and the lower loops for long distance trains. N scale dimensions = 62x86 cm.
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5HorizonsRR		#125 Posted : 26 January 2017 20:18:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,907 Location: CA, USA		Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek An own brain child for a change. That is how the artist wanted it meant to be understood. A double-faced backdrop - employed on my current layout - is a great feature to create the feeling of distance. Some of these layout are so good they make my head explode! I love the current plan for the next layout (thank you Als!), but this one would be gold if I decided to -GASP!- go smaller and actually be able to move around the room...
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Alsterstreek		#126 Posted : 28 January 2017 12:55:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		"With the Helix into the Abyss": A design by German MRR layout designer Ivo Cordes. Assuming that the grid dimensions are 50 cm per box for H0 scale, this translates to 240 x 155 cm. Iteration no. 1 by a German N scaler Iteration no. 2 by the same German N scaler It turned out that condensing the initial design in terms of length is easier than in terms of depth due to the helix space requirement. According to the German N scaler, the original Ivo Cordes design measures 160 x 80 cm in N scale, while his own iterations measure 110 x 75 cm in N scale, respectively. http://stummiforum.de/vi...pic.php?f=24&t=75048
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Alsterstreek		#127 Posted : 29 January 2017 14:37:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Another Ivo Cordes concept. I like the highly unusual approach, mixing extended and visually appealing runs with shunting potential. Translated into Maerklin C track. While always intrigued by the visible areas, I am not a fan of the elaborate shadow stations. However, this "conversion" is well made in my view, resulting in an overseeable design. Level -1 Level -2 http://www.stummiforum.de/viewtopic.php?t=116400
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Alsterstreek		#128 Posted : 01 February 2017 20:27:56(UTC) Retweet
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rbw993		#129 Posted : 02 February 2017 18:11:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 973		Nice little plan AK. I like the hidden siding
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kiwiAlan		#130 Posted : 02 February 2017 18:16:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,224 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		It looks very similar to some of the z Gauge suitcase layouts. But it is a cunning use of space. Certainly worth getting out boxes of track pieces and playing with it.
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Alsterstreek		#131 Posted : 03 February 2017 11:38:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Originally Posted by: rbw993 Nice little plan AK. I like the hidden siding Poor man's shadow station. :o)
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Alsterstreek		#132 Posted : 03 February 2017 19:52:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		What could a central view block do to a layout? Add a sense of distance, make the layout look larger, improve visual appearance? Bonus: Space saving "Reiterbahnhof".
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Alsterstreek		#133 Posted : 09 February 2017 21:55:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		The drawing in the previous post and this track plan are having a lot in common.
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Alsterstreek		#134 Posted : 13 March 2017 17:00:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		"Curvy" 1960 layout in bed base. http://www.maerklinist.d...-anlagenkonstruktion.htm Edited by user 04 April 2017 17:44:16(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Alsterstreek		#135 Posted : 04 April 2017 20:54:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		For filling a 650 x 450 cm room. One lap requires running over all loops. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/c...kings-divide-eastern-rr/
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Alsterstreek		#136 Posted : 06 April 2017 16:51:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Adorable. Trying to understand the mainline run, I came up with a schematic: Even more simplified to make a simple man like myself grasp it: Considering positions of terminal, passing sidings and turntable, I ignored industry spurs for the sake of clarity. I am not sure about the green dotted line: There is a turnout on the lower level on the upper right hand layout leg leading the track into a tunnel, but I can only guess where the track is going to.
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rbw993		#137 Posted : 06 April 2017 17:11:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 973		Ak, I think it connects to the dotted line that runs under the terminal on the upper left side of the plan. They are on relatively the same level. Roger
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Alsterstreek		#138 Posted : 06 April 2017 17:23:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Yes, you are right. When enlarging the plan, a hidden turnout becomes visible:
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Alsterstreek		#139 Posted : 06 April 2017 17:40:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		So it is rather like this:
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rbw993		#140 Posted : 06 April 2017 19:12:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 973		A bit more resolution in the plan image would help a lot! Still a very nice plan.
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Alsterstreek		#141 Posted : 06 April 2017 23:04:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		The resolution of the "original" is slightly better: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/c...kings-divide-eastern-rr/ 2017-04-07_11-10-36.png (1,457kb) downloaded 71 time(s). Edited by user 07 April 2017 12:11:07(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Alsterstreek		#142 Posted : 07 April 2017 12:08:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		So disentangled and untwisted and reduced to the max, the pattern looks like this. I am impressed. More trivia: - Elevations range from 0 cm (lower station with passing track on lower right hand corner) to 38 cm (long straight bridges of the high line). which ensures the whimsical effects I admire so much. - Even parallel mainline tracks are separated by being placed at various heights, thus avoiding a crowded impression. - Although this is a H0n3 gauge design, radii are equivalent of Maerklin R4 (minimum) and R5 (maximum) curves, ensuring elegant train movements.
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Alsterstreek		#143 Posted : 09 April 2017 17:19:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Circles to the square - here another extreme feasibility study on how many levels can be reached on a 173 x 173 cm surface when two trains are to run on separate mainlines (with the possibility to meet and swap courses)? Answer: five levels. Dogbone laps (round-trips) measure 15 m and 25 m, respectively. Track height goes from 0 cm to 31 cm. Slopes are between 3% and 4%. Track inventory: 001 24077 Straight Track, 77.5mm   16 002 24130 Curved Track R1, 30°   82 003 24912 Curved Track, R5/12.1°, Complementary for 24711/224712/24740 2 004 24172 Straight Track, 171.7mm   27 005 24206 Curved Track R2, 5.7°, Extends Turnouts to 30°   4 006 24611 Left Turnout, R2/24.3°, 188.3mm   5 007 24672 Right Curved Turnout, 30°, Inner Curve R1   3 008 24188 Straight Track, 188.3mm   15 009 24094 Straight Track, 94.2mm   2 010 24612 Right Turnout, R2/24.3°, 188.3mm   7 011 24230 Curved Track R2, 30°   9 012 24671 Left Curved Turnout, 30°, Inner Curve R1   2 013 24224 Curved Track R2, 24.3°, Complementary Standard Turnout Curve   2 014 24207 Curved Track R2, 7.5°   1 015 24115 Curved Track R1, 15°   2 016 24107 Curved Track R1, 7.5°   2 017 24064 Straight Track, 64.3 mm, for parallel spacing of Wide Turnouts   2 018 24977 Track End with Bumper 77.5 (+5.0) mm   8
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Alsterstreek		#144 Posted : 09 April 2017 17:42:06(UTC) Retweet
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Alsterstreek		#145 Posted : 09 April 2017 17:44:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		And of course the usual artist´s view. :o)
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Alsterstreek		#146 Posted : 09 April 2017 17:54:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		More station action wanted? A shelf with terminal tracks connected via a wye to the mainline at a height of 15 cm could be added in an elegant way. Hooking up to "level 0" could be useful for creating further layover tracks below the wye-connected terminal (this requires a "diving" by 2 cm to make it with enough clearance under the "inverted reverse loop ramp"). Terminal track length depends on personal taste and space.
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Alsterstreek		#147 Posted : 17 April 2017 23:26:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Same, same, but different - another extreme feasibility study on a 183 x 112 cm surface for two trains running on separate mainlines (with the possibility to meet and swap courses). Three levels. two separate dogbone laps (round-trips) measure 15 m and 22 m, respectively. An extensive long 29 m roundtrip over both circuits can be combined. Track height goes from 0 cm to 16 cm. Slopes are between 3% and 4%. With clever switching, meeting and passing is possible in the terminal area. Track inventory: 001 24130 Curved Track R1, 30°: 47 002 24115 Curved Track R1, 15°: 6 003 24671 Left Curved Turnout, 30°: 6 004 24107 Curved Track R1, 7.5°: 4 005 24094 Straight Track, 94.2mm: 7 006 24172 Straight Track, 171.7mm: 4 007 24230 Curved Track R2, 30°: 27 008 24215 Curved Track R2, 15°: 5 009 24530 Curved Track R5, 30°: 3 010 24188 Straight Track, 188.3mm: 7 011 24077 Straight Track, 77.5mm: 6 012 24360 Straight Track, 360mm: 1 013 24612 Right Turnout, R2/24.3°: 6 014 24330 Curved Track R3, 30°: 8 015 24206 Curved Track R2, 5.7°: 2 016 24672 Right Curved Turnout, 30° 2: 017 24224 Curved Track R2, 24.3°,´: 2 018 24430 Curved Track R4, 30°: 2 019 24064 Straight Track, 64.3 mm: 3 020 24611 Left Turnout, R2/24.3°: 1 021 24912 Curved Track, R5/12.1°: 2 022 24624 Double Slip Switch, 24.3°: 2 023 24977 Track End with Bumper 77.5: 3
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Alsterstreek		#148 Posted : 17 April 2017 23:31:34(UTC) Retweet
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Alsterstreek		#149 Posted : 17 April 2017 23:59:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Artist´s view. There is a lot of room for improvement, as squeezing in more track, having a more elegant station throat, incorporating easements, lengthening track lengths for accommodating long U.S. style trains as well as improving the appearance of the gorge. Still, given that this is the equivalent of the surface of our dinner table, I am quite impressed to learn what is possible.
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Alsterstreek		#150 Posted : 22 April 2017 22:40:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,754 Location: Hybrid Home		Daydreaming... Ruling grade 2.5%, return loops accommodate 4 m long trains. Gorge width between tracks = 20 cm (of which river width = 10 cm), which is good enough as my Blue River RR layout demonstrated. Mountain division roundtrip like that, i.e. ignoring future station trackage = 24 m (River division = 5 m). Edited by user 24 April 2017 00:03:17(UTC)  | Reason: Highest elevation adapted to clearance needs.
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