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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#1 Posted : 19 November 2016 10:35:59(UTC)
jonas_sthlm

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Hi

Has anyone start to play with turntable?

I do the same step like CS2 but it doesn't remember each track when finish with end button.

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Not finish of development or a bug, or me Cool

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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#2 Posted : 14 December 2016 22:16:07(UTC)
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Now works with update 1.2.0 (Beta 3) update ThumpUp
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Offline cjtech  
#3 Posted : 06 April 2017 20:43:21(UTC)
cjtech

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What is the full configuration? My turntable won't work with my cs3+

Edit: After a long run, I figure out how to do and my turntable start to work!
However I cannot initiate setup, it is really hard to do. So is there any guide (step by step) to do so?

Thank you all.

Edited by user 07 April 2017 07:42:06(UTC)  | Reason: an update

Offline clapcott  
#4 Posted : 08 April 2017 22:58:20(UTC)
clapcott

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Reviewing the 7686/7 Turntable alonside what the CS3* currently offers (1.2.0(4) ), it occurs to me that their are 2 new aspects to consider.
A) The graphical representation of the location - which can be overcome with programming
B) The feedback of location for freelance mode - which cannot be overcome with programming alone and requires additional hardware

A) Re: Graphical Representation
Unlike the 6040/CS2-Keyboard, which had no concept of which track was where, only that it had a logical position (1 to 24), The CS3* is attempting to represent this graphically.

The only way that this has a chance of working is if the CS3* is programmed with exactly the same information that is sent to the decoder.
Because the CS3* cannot read the decoder (yet?) it makes sense that the CS3* programming of the turntable be recorded at the same time as you program the decoder itself (with the Input, step ... end process)

One day an update to the software may support this

B) Re: Location Feedback
HOWEVER , for even this sync'd configuration it is impossible to maintain 100% integrity in operation?
To cater for operating the turntable in freelance mode, where you hold the step button down until you, the operator, sees the turntable at a particular location you need to know how many physical spoke tracks are being passed. While the CS3* knows you have been holding the button down how can it know with 100% where you actually stopped the bridge deck?


Assuming the original configuration is in sync, then the CS3* should be able to handle (graphically) the "Turn" function which is currently also missing.

It is quite unclear to me, how the circular graphic can be offered with no other option unless both parts (A nd B above) are readily available from the get-go.

Even if Marklin offer a new mFX variant of the turntable decoder that can feedback a position, I can only expect that they still need to offer a CS2 display variant (maybe with only the number of out-tracks as defined) for legacy support. An interim solution might be a convoluted deployment of S88 type sensors - however, to feed into the graphical wheel there would still need to be some specialised programming.
Parallel with this is peer monitoring of accessory activity triggered by slaved PCs, CS2s, MS2s, 6040s

For now, I can only think that the next step is to lobby Marklin to offer the legacy 6040/CS2-Keyboard offering

Edited by user 23 April 2017 02:00:47(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline cjtech  
#5 Posted : 11 April 2017 09:09:29(UTC)
cjtech

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As far as I understand, what you wrote, for now, it is not very efficient to use 7686/7 with CS3.
Thank you for your answer and we should do lobby over Marklin to improve this fault.
Offline jonas_sthlm  
#6 Posted : 22 April 2017 16:37:34(UTC)
jonas_sthlm

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Same shit with the last 1.3 update Cursing
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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#7 Posted : 24 April 2017 14:47:59(UTC)
jonas_sthlm

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A small walk around solution when now the remote pc and mobile apps for CS2 works together with CS3, will be to programmed turntable thru keyboard instead.

Then it's possible to move track thru CS3 environment RollEyes

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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#8 Posted : 10 May 2017 06:52:25(UTC)
jonas_sthlm

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I have exactly the same issues that turntable doesn't remember like Michael report at Stummis Huh

Dear Märklin customer,
thanks for your question.
Yes, the turntable works with the update 1.3.
But we have no description for this.

It should be great if development effort will start fixing old items like turntable instead cabin view for new engines Mad
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