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Offline Marty  
#1 Posted : 09 September 2016 19:17:31(UTC)
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I didn't know a railbus could do this!

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#2 Posted : 10 September 2016 20:40:08(UTC)
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I didn't know a railbus could do this!



I don't know how often they towed aa 4 axle wagon, but there are various pictures around of them towing 2 axle boxcars.

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Offline RayF  
#3 Posted : 11 September 2016 00:13:28(UTC)
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A VT98 can do this because they have normal draw gear with buffers.

The VT95 doesn't have buffers and can only couple to other rail buses and trailers.
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Offline SteamNut  
#4 Posted : 11 September 2016 01:56:49(UTC)
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Another example that anything is possible in the real world and the things we do on our layouts can probably be justified BigGrin
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Offline Marty  
#5 Posted : 11 September 2016 03:27:13(UTC)
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Thanks for clarifying the difference between the VT95 & 98, Ray. I have seen pictures of a single, two-axle boxcar being towed by a railbus, but never a full-size 4-axle coach/mailcar. Those railbuses don't seem to have gobs of power for this sort of thing. If nothing else, the video really underscores how small the railbus is.

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Offline H0  
#6 Posted : 11 September 2016 08:02:41(UTC)
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The VT 95.9 has automatic couplers to simplify shunting at terminus stations. VT+VB+VB+VT combinations could be used to avoid shunting.

The VT 98.9 came a few years later and it got standard couplers and buffers to allow it to haul freight cars when needed on branch lines.
It also came with control cars to avoid shunting at the terminus stations - when running without freight cars.

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#7 Posted : 11 September 2016 10:29:42(UTC)
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Another oddity

VT98 901 in Wegscheid station in the 1970s.
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Wegscheid, 1962
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#8 Posted : 11 September 2016 10:47:54(UTC)
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Another oddity

VT98 901 in Wegscheid station in the 1970s.


As being modelled by the second Insider model due out 'Real Soon Now' Drool

Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post

Wegscheid, 1962
6474_3.jpg


Is that really two trailers? Must have been a lot of ski gear on that trip Laugh
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#9 Posted : 11 September 2016 11:17:16(UTC)
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How about this then? A cog railway VT railcar in push-pull service (here seen pushing) with a "driving trailer". Driver sitting in the brakeman's cab,
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Erlau-Wegscheid branch line in Bavaria, 1963.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#10 Posted : 11 September 2016 11:35:26(UTC)
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VT 98 of the Kasbachtalbahn in Linz on the river Rhine.
ein-vt-98-kasbachtalbahn-linz-352595.jpg
Hehehe, I guess the VT 98 is only parked in front of the string of freight cars.
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#11 Posted : 11 September 2016 11:54:42(UTC)
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Hehehe, I guess the VT 98 is only parked in front of the string of freight cars.
VT, VS, or VB? Where is the third headlight?
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Offline Pmare4  
#12 Posted : 11 September 2016 12:19:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post

Hehehe, I guess the VT 98 is only parked in front of the string of freight cars.


No, it's the DB's new cost-saving service. Normal locos are too expensive to run... RollEyes Tongue

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#13 Posted : 11 September 2016 13:31:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Hehehe, I guess the VT 98 is only parked in front of the string of freight cars.
VT, VS, or VB? Where is the third headlight?

Dunno. Source claims VT 98:
http://www.bahnbilder.de...r-kasbachtalbahn-in.html
Offline H0  
#14 Posted : 11 September 2016 14:13:42(UTC)
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We see an unpowered control car (VS) in front of some freight cars, control panel towards the freight cars. I don't care what the photographer writes.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#15 Posted : 11 September 2016 14:40:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
We see an unpowered control car (VS) in front of some freight cars, control panel towards the freight cars. I don't care what the photographer writes.
Nor do I.

Offline Markus Schild  
#16 Posted : 11 September 2016 18:56:19(UTC)
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Hi,

The composition of the 998 (VT98) with the postal car was famous in these years. As far as I remember it ran daily except weekends. The distance between Ludwigshafen Hbf and Mannheim Hbf is only 3.0 km (2 mi) . Both cities are sister-towns facing each other only separated by the Rhine. The line between the two main-stations was also famous for other unusual trains. In some cases through-coaches (also international) were coupled to commuter-trains or just transported by a V60 (260) from the one station to the other were they were coupled to other trains.

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Offline Marty  
#17 Posted : 12 September 2016 19:29:25(UTC)
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Hi Markus,

So was the postal car just shuttled between Ludwigshafen and Mannheim with the railbus, or did it continue on down to other cities? If it was shuttled back and forth just 3km across the Rhine, I can see how putting it behind the railbus would make sense. If the postal car continued on down the tracks to other towns and cities, and there were hills to overcome, then it seems this would be a compromise of sorts...
Marty
Offline Markus Schild  
#18 Posted : 12 September 2016 19:59:33(UTC)
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Hi Marty,

The post-car was just shuttled between two trains. It came with one train to Ludwigshafen and was coupled to another train in Mannheim. Many trains which arrived from the west of the Rhine ended in Ludwigshafen, trains travelling in the north-south direction used Mannheim. Wikipedia knows the so named "Pfälzische Ludwigsbahn": https://en.wikipedia.org...Saarbr%C3%BCcken_railway

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Offline Marty  
#19 Posted : 12 September 2016 21:44:41(UTC)
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It all makes sense now! Thanks Markus.

By the way, have I ever said how great this forum is? There is amazing collective knowledge here!
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Offline Wildrose-Wally  
#20 Posted : 13 September 2016 03:40:42(UTC)
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Just to say I love the sound of the bus/train, but the horn needs some work. Smile

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#21 Posted : 17 September 2016 14:13:38(UTC)
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Just stumbled over this one.
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