Welcome to the forum   
Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error

4 Pages123>»
Share
Options
View
Go to last post in this topic Go to first unread post in this topic
Offline steventrain  
#1 Posted : 16 April 2015 21:39:44(UTC)
steventrain

United Kingdom   
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC)
Posts: 32,782
Marklin TV Extra No.29 - Insider 2020 - English



Marklin TV Episode 100 - English



Marklin TV extra No.28 - English.



Marklin No.99 - English.



Marklin Extra No.27 Insider BR78.10 - English.



Marklin TV No.98 - English edition



Marklin No.97 - English (update full 15 minutes)



Marklin TV No.96 English edition.



Marklin TV no.95 English edition.




Marklin TV no.94 English.



Marklin TV Extra no.26 - English.

Edited by user 06 December 2019 19:49:57(UTC)  | Reason: Made topic 'Sticky'

Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
thanks 16 users liked this useful post by steventrain
Offline clapcott  
#2 Posted : 19 April 2015 01:07:08(UTC)
clapcott

New Zealand   
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC)
Posts: 2,262
Location: Wellington, New_Zealand
Peter
thanks 5 users liked this useful post by clapcott
Offline NZMarklinist  
#3 Posted : 21 April 2015 11:23:07(UTC)
NZMarklinist

New Zealand   
Joined: 15/03/2011(UTC)
Posts: 1,757
Location: Auckland NZ
It would seem that there is a new person in the marketing department ??
Glen
Auckland NZ

" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !

CS1 Reloaded, Touch Cab, C Track Modules, K track layout all under construction. Currently Insider
Offline Mark_1602  
#4 Posted : 26 April 2015 15:37:54(UTC)
Mark_1602

Luxembourg   
Joined: 24/09/2014(UTC)
Posts: 634
Location: Luxembourg
Hi,

The big surprise in this video is that the new cabin tender BR 50 seems to be assembled in Göppingen.

In episode 50, Märklin TV showed us that the first version of the new BR 50, the 37810, was assembled in Hungary. Has the production of the BR 50 been moved to Germany, or is Märklin TV showing us the production of the pre-series? If the BR 50 is now produced in Germany, what was the reason for that change? In general, relocating assembly to another factory costs money as workers need to be trained first.

Märklin TV Episode 50

One thing that always strikes me when I see an episode about the Märklin factory in Györ is that nearly all the workers in the assembly department have really long fingernails as compared to workers in Göppingen. Here's an example:

Märklin TV Episode 56

I wonder how they manage to assemble locomotives without scratching them ... As a matter of fact, I've had three brand new locomotives with scratches that were assembled in Hungary ...

Best regards,

Mark
MÄRKLIN 4ever!! (*)
(*) This signature refers to those M* items which are truly good quality.
Offline manou  
#5 Posted : 26 April 2015 16:57:17(UTC)
manou

Greece   
Joined: 21/11/2010(UTC)
Posts: 55
Location: Chalandri, Athens
Hi all,

Did TV Extra 14 removed from club area, or is just me that i cannot find it.

Regards
Yannis
Best Regards
Yannis
Offline H0  
#6 Posted : 26 April 2015 17:10:44(UTC)
H0


Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC)
Posts: 13,544
Location: DE-NW
Hi, Yannis,

Only regular episodes are listed in the club area, not the Extra episodes.
Regards
Tom
---
"In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
UserPostedImage
Offline manou  
#7 Posted : 26 April 2015 18:38:32(UTC)
manou

Greece   
Joined: 21/11/2010(UTC)
Posts: 55
Location: Chalandri, Athens
Hi Tom,

I can see all the previous up to 13 and i am pretty sure (although not 100% sure) that i watched the episode from Club area.

Anyway no biggie, just being curious

Yannis


manou attached the following image(s):
Capture.PNG
Best Regards
Yannis
Offline gamolina  
#8 Posted : 03 May 2015 18:03:56(UTC)
gamolina

Argentina   
Joined: 03/10/2012(UTC)
Posts: 28
Location: Buenos Aires
Hello,
you can see it in
http://www.maerklin.com/...cts/video/mtv-extra.html

Regards Guillermo
thanks 1 user liked this useful post by gamolina
Offline steventrain  
#9 Posted : 19 June 2015 21:08:34(UTC)
steventrain

United Kingdom   
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC)
Posts: 32,782
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
thanks 8 users liked this useful post by steventrain
Offline shannon  
#10 Posted : 04 July 2015 03:19:53(UTC)
shannon


Joined: 27/01/2005(UTC)
Posts: 337
Location: Taipei,
Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post


When I saw Marklin TV 71 i was noticing the assembly of BR18.5 with a strange metal component as the marked in green loop in the tender.
Does someone know what it is ?

The other feature is 2 flywheels configured in front of the motor in this locomotive.


print screen.jpg
Offline sjlauritsen  
#11 Posted : 04 July 2015 07:24:58(UTC)
sjlauritsen

Denmark   
Joined: 18/08/2007(UTC)
Posts: 1,081
Location: Denmark
Originally Posted by: shannon Go to Quoted Post
Does someone know what it is?

It looks like added weight to me.

Søren from Denmark
Blog: https://railway.zone/ | Danish Model Railway Forum: http://baneforum.dk/
thanks 1 user liked this useful post by sjlauritsen
Offline steventrain  
#12 Posted : 04 July 2015 10:44:29(UTC)
steventrain

United Kingdom   
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC)
Posts: 32,782
I think the weight on tender to keep wheels/Pickup on tracks.

Without weight would be derails.

I look at Service sheet PDF and it do not show weight on tender

39030 PDF - 5.94MB - Page 33/34 of service sheet. >MANUAL<
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline vilithejou  
#13 Posted : 24 July 2015 15:41:33(UTC)
vilithejou


Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC)
Posts: 721
Location: Vic, Barcelona
Marklin TV Folge 72 on air

BR 245
Furka Bahn Trip and Kroko fur Gottatrdo
Donald Duck
Joan Vilarrúbia
vilithejou@yahoo.es
Fan of Märklín, Kroko lover
thanks 4 users liked this useful post by vilithejou
Offline steventrain  
#14 Posted : 24 July 2015 18:09:51(UTC)
steventrain

United Kingdom   
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC)
Posts: 32,782
Thanks.

Subject head update No.72
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
thanks 2 users liked this useful post by steventrain
Offline Goofy  
#15 Posted : 25 July 2015 07:57:25(UTC)
Goofy


Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC)
Posts: 8,082
Originally Posted by: sjlauritsen Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: shannon Go to Quoted Post
Does someone know what it is?

It looks like added weight to me.



And notice added weight right top over the pick up shoe...

DCC means Digital Command Control.

Offline kweekalot  
#16 Posted : 25 July 2015 11:14:34(UTC)
kweekalot

Netherlands   
Joined: 27/06/2012(UTC)
Posts: 3,244
Location: Holland
Is it just me or... The latest episodes of Marklin TV feel more and more like an commercial, especially this one.

But I like the announcement that marklin is going to produce more inexpensive loco's in the coming years.
Most ordinary people here in Holland can't afford a € 400+ loco.
thanks 4 users liked this useful post by kweekalot
Offline Goofy  
#17 Posted : 27 July 2015 10:38:04(UTC)
Goofy


Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC)
Posts: 8,082
Excuse me...but TV folge 72 is not verified yet!
It will soon.
DCC means Digital Command Control.

Offline kweekalot  
#18 Posted : 28 July 2015 19:59:13(UTC)
kweekalot

Netherlands   
Joined: 27/06/2012(UTC)
Posts: 3,244
Location: Holland
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Excuse me...but TV folge 72 is not verified yet!
It will soon.


Confused Confused Confused
Offline H0  
#19 Posted : 28 July 2015 20:15:31(UTC)
H0


Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC)
Posts: 13,544
Location: DE-NW
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
but TV folge 72 is not verified yet!
It's verified by Kweekalot, verified by me, maybe even verified by Cleo.
Let us know when it is verified by Goofy.

Regards
Tom
---
"In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
UserPostedImage
thanks 3 users liked this useful post by H0
Offline steventrain  
#20 Posted : 28 July 2015 20:51:47(UTC)
steventrain

United Kingdom   
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC)
Posts: 32,782
It work fine for me.

Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#21 Posted : 28 July 2015 23:58:16(UTC)
Bigdaddynz

New Zealand   
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC)
Posts: 16,834
Location: New Zealand
And me....
Offline Goofy  
#22 Posted : 29 July 2015 09:40:39(UTC)
Goofy


Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC)
Posts: 8,082
I was in the Facebook and Märklin did wrote like this.
I did click at the Märklins linkpage and it did present No.71!
DCC means Digital Command Control.

Offline manou  
#23 Posted : 29 July 2015 14:55:47(UTC)
manou

Greece   
Joined: 21/11/2010(UTC)
Posts: 55
Location: Chalandri, Athens
It is not published yet in English. I can see it though in German
Best Regards
Yannis
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#24 Posted : 07 August 2015 11:36:50(UTC)
Bigdaddynz

New Zealand   
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC)
Posts: 16,834
Location: New Zealand
And we're still waiting for the English version of episode 72........
Offline steventrain  
#25 Posted : 07 August 2015 14:57:39(UTC)
steventrain

United Kingdom   
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC)
Posts: 32,782
Still waiting.

I will contact M.
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
thanks 1 user liked this useful post by steventrain
Offline manou  
#26 Posted : 07 August 2015 15:05:10(UTC)
manou

Greece   
Joined: 21/11/2010(UTC)
Posts: 55
Location: Chalandri, Athens
Seems like the translator is somewhere on the beach.
Best Regards
Yannis
thanks 1 user liked this useful post by manou
Offline Glen  
#27 Posted : 08 August 2015 06:34:58(UTC)
Glen

New Zealand   
Joined: 30/01/2011(UTC)
Posts: 112
Location: Johnsonville
Originally Posted by: manou Go to Quoted Post
Seems like the translator is somewhere on the beach.


.....or is that 'beached' somewhere' - waiting to be rescued ..... LOL
Offline xxup  
#28 Posted : 08 August 2015 06:52:15(UTC)
xxup

Australia   
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC)
Posts: 8,964
Location: Australia
Hmm.. Maybe went to Bali for the holidays and is trapped by the non-fly volcano... LOL
Adrian
UserPostedImage
Australia flag by abFlags.com
Offline kiwiAlan  
#29 Posted : 08 August 2015 19:25:45(UTC)
kiwiAlan

United Kingdom   
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC)
Posts: 4,659
Location: ENGLAND, Didcot
Originally Posted by: Glen Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: manou Go to Quoted Post
Seems like the translator is somewhere on the beach.


.....or is that 'beached' somewhere' - waiting to be rescued ..... LOL


More likely derailed ... or trying to get back past the migrants at Calais, from his holidays, on Eurostar ... Blink

Offline Bigdaddynz  
#30 Posted : 12 August 2015 08:41:58(UTC)
Bigdaddynz

New Zealand   
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC)
Posts: 16,834
Location: New Zealand
The English version of MTV episode 72 has now appeared on the English Insider Club website.
Offline steventrain  
#31 Posted : 12 August 2015 18:10:18(UTC)
steventrain

United Kingdom   
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC)
Posts: 32,782
Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
The English version of MTV episode 72 has now appeared on the English Insider Club website.


For Non Insider member.

http://www.maerklin.com/...s/video/maerklin-tv.html
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
thanks 3 users liked this useful post by steventrain
Offline NS1200  
#32 Posted : 21 August 2015 15:44:53(UTC)
NS1200

Netherlands   
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC)
Posts: 3,440
The message given by the CEO of Marklin is clear.
There will be a new range of less expensive models because the market for Euro 300 plus locomotives is shrinking.
In a Dutch article i read that Marklin have started to realise that their most loyal group of customers,men of 50/60/70, will eventually die,requiring the need to find new customers of other ages.
I believe the brandname Primex and also the name Hobby are still owned by Marklin,these names could be used again as opposed to the more expensive productrange.
In the early part of the news the saleslady states that starterkits will be sold via supermarkets and the alike.
This reminds me of my youth as a youngster,buying cheap French made Jouef trains at the local departmentstore.

Exciting times ahead!
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
thanks 2 users liked this useful post by NS1200
Offline mjrallare  
#33 Posted : 22 August 2015 11:52:48(UTC)
mjrallare


Joined: 14/11/2007(UTC)
Posts: 558
Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
The message given by the CEO of Marklin is clear.
...
In a Dutch article i read that Marklin have started to realise that their most loyal group of customers,men of 50/60/70, will eventually die,requiring the need to find new customers of other ages.
...

Exciting times ahead!


Hi!

It can hardly be news to Märklin that men born before 1970 are their dominating customer-group? And who can expect "exciting times"? Not me, that's for sure. That some "cheapish" locos now actually becomes cheap does nothing for me. And I'm not dead yet, but I've gone from Märklin purchases in the amount of 5.000 € a year to 500 €. Why? Well I know that many on this forum are very sensitive when it comes to criticising Märklins quality, so I won't go into that.

Will it be good for Märklin? Everyone who has experience of sales and economy knows that if you sell stuff cheap you need huge volumes to make a profit. Will Märklin reach the necessary volumes? I doubt it. I think it takes more than cheap prices to lure youngsters and their parents into buying. Sadly, I think that young people today lack the connections to trains that we in earlier generations have had. It's actually quite natural when you think of it. At least in Sweden most local train-station closed down long ago. When I was a kid I often stopped and looked at the trains when I went to and from my hockey-training. Today the trains aren't there anymore.

And if they succed in selling trains to youngsters. And don't get me wrong, I sure hope they do! Märklin won't be doing any money before these youngsters have settled down and gotten a stable economy. How many of us reentered the hobby in our fourties? And then Märklin will need the higher priced, high margin prodcts. And then we are back on square one again.

Every marketing-course teaches you that you either have to go for high volumes and low margins or low volumes and high margins. There really are no middle way. Experience have proven this over and over again. Märklin needs to be able to reach younger people. But I thought that was what they've been trying to do with the Hobby-line, Märklin My World and whatever they've called it.
But Märklin is, as is the whole MRR-business, a low volume high margin business. So selling cheap to try to lure people into the hobby is a good idea, but it's not a way to survive and make money. Neither is selling cheap trains to grown-ups. So Märklin has to lure youngsters into the hobby, but this is a long-term project. At the same time they need to make money on high-end, high-margin products. AND they need to look at what it costs today to get the products to the end-customers. Brick and mortar shops are sadly to costly. But selling high-margin products through Supermarkets isn't a solution either. The solution is fewer brick and mortar shops that also sells through internet.

What the CEO says that is interesting is that if you charge 400 € for a loco you have to deliver what people expect (and what Märklin marketing tells us we have a right to expect). Does he think there is a discrepancy today? I think so.

If he does think so, yes there may be exciting times ahead!
thanks 4 users liked this useful post by mjrallare
Offline Mark_1602  
#34 Posted : 23 August 2015 11:01:44(UTC)
Mark_1602

Luxembourg   
Joined: 24/09/2014(UTC)
Posts: 634
Location: Luxembourg
Originally Posted by: mjrallare Go to Quoted Post

Hi!

It can hardly be news to Märklin that men born before 1970 are their dominating customer-group? And who can expect "exciting times"? Not me, that's for sure. That some "cheapish" locos now actually becomes cheap does nothing for me. And I'm not dead yet, but I've gone from Märklin purchases in the amount of 5.000 € a year to 500 €. Why? Well I know that many on this forum are very sensitive when it comes to criticising Märklins quality, so I won't go into that.

Will it be good for Märklin?


Hi,

I think that even some die-hard Märklin fans would agree with you by now because the unusually high number of warranty cases in the last few years is undeniable. I can only speak for my own experience, but I wonder if it's a coincidence that five out of of the seven warranty cases I have had with Märklin locomotives since 2012 were 'cheaper' locomotives that cost less than 300 euros. Small numbers don't prove anything in statistics, but I'd rather buy premium models right now.

In fact, there are still more than enough men who were born before 1970 and would like to buy Märklin products. The good customers tend to buy premium locomotives and would probably not be interested in cheap models. What do the new owners really want to do? Low prices are only possible if the locomotives are not detailed and have no sound, so does Märklin want to sell simplified toy locomotives in future? I also think that they won't find enough new customers to make ends meet, so for the time being, they'd better produce premium models and premium quality.

The Start Up and MyWorld product ranges are a good idea, but they can't be the main focus. If Märklin improved quality control right now, some customers who don't buy much at the moment might come back: if the company doesn't reduce the number of warranty cases, sales will decrease year after year. That's just my opinion: maybe I'm a bit pessimistic, but the Märklin CEOs are probably over-optimistic.

Best regards,
Mark
MÄRKLIN 4ever!! (*)
(*) This signature refers to those M* items which are truly good quality.
thanks 1 user liked this useful post by Mark_1602
Offline NS1200  
#35 Posted : 23 August 2015 13:31:01(UTC)
NS1200

Netherlands   
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC)
Posts: 3,440
Mjrallare/Torbjoern,

I largely agree with you,companies like Marklin are in a very difficult situation because middle of the road marketing does not work for them,nor does it work for a lot of other companies either.
Exciting times for me means that it will be interesting to see which course of action Marklin is going to take with a possible new productline.
Exciting for me has the meaning here that you are going into battle without knowing the outcome.

For me,almost age 60,i will not buy Euro 300 plus locomotives,i simply cannot afford to spend the money.
Instead,i buy the somewhat older issues,like the 39103 at Euro 185 last week.
If i would be a youngster,i would not buy trains at such prices,in fact when i was a youngster i could not even buy the annual catalogue!

Per definition,a CEO of a given company will need to be optimistic about the future of the company,or pack his bags.
It is for us to try and read between the lines and form ourselves an opinion about what has been said.

It is my personal(!) belief that socalled premium brands will go down the drain,people are no longer prepared to pay for status.
Only a small group of high income/high spending people will continue to buy premium brands like Rolex,BMW,Porsche,Gucci,and even Marklin.
Beer for me is not Heineken but German beer from a wellknown German supermarket.
We drive small cheap cars with 69 HP,not fancy high powered sportscars.
We buy our clothes in middle of the road shops,nothing like the clothes you find in the glossy magazines.
Above all,our aim is to keep our debts at zero.

Let us see what Marklin come up with.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
thanks 4 users liked this useful post by NS1200
Offline mjrallare  
#36 Posted : 23 August 2015 22:47:07(UTC)
mjrallare


Joined: 14/11/2007(UTC)
Posts: 558
Hi Paul et al.

I understand that most people have a shortage of money. That's also why I think most people between 16 and 40 are lost to MRR. Time and money has to go to other important things in life. But most of us, but admittedly not everyone, gets some financial freedom when we get older.

At least here in Sweden Märklin has always been very pricey, and personally I only owned two locos when I was a youngster (until I was sixteen, after that the hobby was put on hold). But I loved those locos! A Swedish RC 1010 and a German steamer (BR 003). I'd rather have two pricey locos than 4 or 5 cheaper ones. Because, as Mark said above, the lower price of a loco will also mean less details and functions.

But as you said yourself, there are plenty of used models out there that can be had for a moderate price. Many in mint condition. And the supply of models are likely to increase during the years to come since many collectors are joining their forefathers. Who will then buy the new cheap Märklin locos when there's such a supply of great used locos?

Personally I was very worried when Stefan Löbich left Märklin in 2013. I read on this forum that it was because there were different views on the importance of the Russian vs the USA market. But maybe it was something else? Maybe the Siebers will now make Märklin go more in tandem with their other businesses? Is cheap China-made locos for the masses what we will see in the future?

But for me Märklin is all about "Tradition, quality and innovation". This is actually how they describe their company on maerklin.com. This probably means that Märklin products will cost relatively much. But again, there are great used models for those who can't afford new ones. Märklin should stand by their values and traditions. Let others produce simple and cheap locos for those who for some reason aren't prepared to buy second-hand models.

/Torbjörn

thanks 2 users liked this useful post by mjrallare
Offline NS1200  
#37 Posted : 24 August 2015 07:57:37(UTC)
NS1200

Netherlands   
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC)
Posts: 3,440
Torbjorn,

The dilemma for Marklin remains.
Should they go the way Roco have been following with their various productranges?
Has that done Roco any good?
I wonder.

Looking at the Marklin gauge 1 assortment,i just wonder how big the clientbase is for these very expensive items.
The recently released large steamers do anything between Euro 1,500 and Euro 2,500.-
That is not for average people,right?

Comparing with the car branch,i find it remarkable that Volkswagen are doing so well.
They are a mass producer,probably by now the biggest in the world.
Their cars do not come cheap,still in a country like Holland they are very popular,despite the high price.
What is their secret,and are Marklin able to copy them?

Questions,questions.....

Edited by user 24 August 2015 12:29:46(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
thanks 1 user liked this useful post by NS1200
Offline mjrallare  
#38 Posted : 24 August 2015 18:25:42(UTC)
mjrallare


Joined: 14/11/2007(UTC)
Posts: 558
Hi again,

as you say "questions questions"... BigGrin

Märklin (or rather the Sieber-group) will make the decisions they feel are best for the company. Hopefully they've invested in a thorough market analysis so that they can get answers to most of the questions.
If they put more emphasis on cheaper products, they must count on being able to increase the total MRR-market. That's an optimistic approach. If that's not possible, they might end up with the same turnover as before but a lower overall gross-margin.

Whatever they decide, I wish them good luck!

/Torbjörn
thanks 1 user liked this useful post by mjrallare
Offline witzlerh  
#39 Posted : 24 August 2015 20:02:17(UTC)
witzlerh

Canada   
Joined: 25/09/2010(UTC)
Posts: 416
Location: Sherwood Park, AB, Canada
I have been helping my dealer sell myworld start set the last few shows. Before my world came out, we would only sell 1 or 2 hobby start sets. They were around $250. When my world came around we now were selling 15-20 my world start sets and still sold 1-2 "my start" (hobby) start sets. They now go for $350 but have track and switches and a lok with sound and MS2. Much more bang for the buck.

I asked my dealer if there were any repeat customers who bought my world at the shows. He said some...perhaps 5-10%. He has gained new customers so the my world is worth it for him...but not by a whole lot. You have to remember we are in Canada where European stuff is not interesting...but I know that we had sales because the my world and my start were far better quality than the NA stuff.

I think that Marklin's gamble with my world is paying off. If those cheaper loks are as robust as the older loks from the 50-60's, that will be a good thing.

This is the natural outcome of growing up with the customers that got hooked on my world.

Will there be less detail? yes. Will it be a problem for the customer, no but perhaps long later yes. Can the customer do something about it? Yes, either buy expensive loks later in life or do what many North American modelers do, add the detail your self. Other manufactures add a bag of stuff you can add depending on the prototype. This is fine too. If you don't care for detail, less work and less parts falling off. If you do care, you add it yourself and will naturally be more careful in handling and finally, be more proud that you did it yourself.

Will there be less items produced each year at the level of quality that we diehards want and expect? Yes. That trend has started in 2000. The 2000 catalog was so big and has so many interesting new items that they had a catalog per gauge. The catalog has been getting smaller ever since.

The my world turn-around is starting but it will take about 10 years to get to our level. The supply of well cared for used loks and rolling stock hitting the market will not help Marklin or any other manufacture for a while. Yes, interesting times ahead.

Harald
CS2 DB & Canadian Era 3-6
thanks 3 users liked this useful post by witzlerh
Offline H0  
#40 Posted : 24 August 2015 20:28:21(UTC)
H0


Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC)
Posts: 13,544
Location: DE-NW
Originally Posted by: witzlerh Go to Quoted Post
The 2000 catalog was so big and has so many interesting new items that they had a catalog per gauge.
In 2005 they started to make one catalogue per gauge (again).

The number of items in the new items brochure is IMHO a better indicator than the number of pages in the catalogue.
Regards
Tom
---
"In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
UserPostedImage
Offline NS1200  
#41 Posted : 24 August 2015 20:34:31(UTC)
NS1200

Netherlands   
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC)
Posts: 3,440
Harald,

The sting in the flesh for Marklin is the apparent need to keep employment in Germany and the rest of Europe.
If this need would not be there,it would be easy enough to let everything be produced in the Far East,take the profit and run.
For some reason,this is not being done (yet).
One of the key values for Marklin is quality,contained in the famous wording Made in Germany.
It would be silly to throw away such an important key value,right?
I get the impression that Marklin will come up with two different productlines,one like the Hobby line they had before and one more professional and more expensive line.
I wish them every luck in the world with that!

Again about cars,if you buy a modern Skoda,you in fact buy a Volkswagen,albeit at a lower price,a lot of parts will be typically Volkswagen quality,including the engine.
Perhaps Marklin can do the same.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
thanks 1 user liked this useful post by NS1200
Offline kiwiAlan  
#42 Posted : 25 August 2015 23:31:50(UTC)
kiwiAlan

United Kingdom   
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC)
Posts: 4,659
Location: ENGLAND, Didcot
Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Torbjorn,

The dilemma for Marklin remains.
Should they go the way Roco have been following with their various productranges?
Has that done Roco any good?
I wonder.

Looking at the Marklin gauge 1 assortment,i just wonder how big the clientbase is for these very expensive items.
The recently released large steamers do anything between Euro 1,500 and Euro 2,500.-
That is not for average people,right?

Comparing with the car branch,i find it remarkable that Volkswagen are doing so well.
They are a mass producer,probably by now the biggest in the world.
Their cars do not come cheap,still in a country like Holland they are very popular,despite the high price.
What is their secret,and are Marklin able to copy them?

Questions,questions.....


Comparing Marklin to Volkswagen is not a good comparison. Much of what Volkswagen (and many other car makers manufacture) is spread across many brands. For Volkswagen the basic chassis and engine/gearbox/drivetrain will be used in Volkswagen, Audi, Seat, and I am not sure they don't also have a stake in Skoda although I am not sure about this. Other car manufacturers do similar things, I believe almost all the French manufacturers use the same mechanical assemblies in similar size models, Ford and BMW also share components with other manufacturers (I believe the Mini engines are built in France) and so it goes on to get cost savings in mass production.

So this would be equivalent to Marklin making the motor and chassis assemblies not just for Marklin and Trix, but for Roco, Fleischmann and possibly some others as well.
Offline NS1200  
#43 Posted : 26 August 2015 08:33:50(UTC)
NS1200

Netherlands   
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC)
Posts: 3,440
Volkswagen own Skoda and Seat for 100 percent.
Hence,they use engines and a lot of other parts for Volkswagen,Seat and Skoda.
If you buy a Seat or Skoda,you in fact buy a Volkswagen,albeit at a lower price.
Because labourcosts in Spain and CZ are lower as compared to Germany,Volkswagen can sell those cars at lower prices.
The purchasing of materials will be centralized so that based on huge volumes,Volkswagen get the best discount on parts.

Volkswagen have 3 productranges for familycars:
A) Volkswagen,made in Germany,the real thing,the statussymbol (Golf!).
B) Seat,for the young at heart.
C) Skoda,for people trying to keep a tight budget,not interested in status.

What could happen is that Marklin would continue to produce the highly detailed models in Germany ("Made in Germany"!) and the less detailed models in for example Hungary.

An old Dutch TV commercial for Skoda,drivers of Skoda seen as clever people who will never pay too much:



Cheers,
Paul.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
thanks 1 user liked this useful post by NS1200
Offline Drongo  
#44 Posted : 27 August 2015 07:51:42(UTC)
Drongo

Australia   
Joined: 03/06/2008(UTC)
Posts: 1,022
Location: Sydney, NSW
This is a little off the topic - I'm a member of the insider club, is there any way of seeing the earlier editions of Marklin TV ?

Regards
Greg
Take it easy . . . . or any other way you can get it !!!!
Website - www.simplesite.com/gregstrain
Offline Mark_1602  
#45 Posted : 28 August 2015 11:12:30(UTC)
Mark_1602

Luxembourg   
Joined: 24/09/2014(UTC)
Posts: 634
Location: Luxembourg
Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post


What could happen is that Marklin would continue to produce the highly detailed models in Germany ("Made in Germany"!) and the less detailed models in for example Hungary.

Cheers,
Paul.


Hi,

To start with, some Märklin products are still made in China, including some locomotives that were newly designed in 2014, such as the Nohab/AFB diesels and the S 2/6, which is highly detailed. We don't know if Märklin will continue to have some of their products manufactured in China in future, but the new owner and CEO has said that manufacturing in Hungary may even be cheaper than in China and that he doesn't like the quality of the Chinese-made Märklin products.

Those plastic Märklin or Trix coaches or wagons which are made in Europe are all manufactured in Hungary nowadays because the Märklin factory in Göppingen has focused on locomotives for a long time. Back in the 1960s, Märklin opened a factory in Schwäbisch Gmünd to produce rolling stock. Later that was replaced by Sonneberg, and when that factory closed as well, rolling stock was either produced in Hungary or China.

The metal parts of all Märklin or Trix locomotives made in Europe are produced in Göppingen, but in most cases the locomotives are then painted and/or assembled in Hungary. That's also true for most highly detailed models, though some expensive locomotives are probably still assembled in Göppingen, but it's hard to tell which ones.

For example, Märklin TV showed us the new Class 50 being assembled in Hungary a few years ago, but this year, they showed the assembly of the new 37835 in Göppingen. Are all 37835 made in Germany or only the pre-series? Märklin doesn't really want us to know, do they?

37835 in der Produktion
Märklin TV Folge 50

Best regards,

Mark
MÄRKLIN 4ever!! (*)
(*) This signature refers to those M* items which are truly good quality.
Offline steventrain  
#46 Posted : 05 September 2015 11:58:21(UTC)
steventrain

United Kingdom   
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC)
Posts: 32,782
Marklin TV extra No.15

German.

Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
thanks 2 users liked this useful post by steventrain
Offline steventrain  
#47 Posted : 01 October 2015 14:28:45(UTC)
steventrain

United Kingdom   
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC)
Posts: 32,782
No.73

Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline Goofy  
#48 Posted : 01 October 2015 17:20:30(UTC)
Goofy


Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC)
Posts: 8,082
Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
No.73



Nice video!
I wonder if this DDR locomotive will have new generation decoder?

DCC means Digital Command Control.

Offline steventrain  
#49 Posted : 01 October 2015 18:36:03(UTC)
steventrain

United Kingdom   
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC)
Posts: 32,782
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
thanks 1 user liked this useful post by steventrain
Offline steventrain  
#50 Posted : 22 December 2015 21:41:27(UTC)
steventrain

United Kingdom   
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC)
Posts: 32,782
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
thanks 3 users liked this useful post by steventrain
Users browsing this topic
OceanSpiders 2.0
4 Pages123>»
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

| Powered by YAF.NET | YAF.NET © 2003-2019, Yet Another Forum.NET
This page was generated in 1.118 seconds.