Joined: 03/06/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,249 Location: Sydney, NSW
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Hi Everyone,
I've started making another layout with C Track and I want to use TrainController with my CS2. Therefore I need to install sensors and create blocks within the track, however, every piece of track has to be cut so as to isolate the 2 rails.
My question is - why can't Marklin manufacture the C Track with the 2 rails already isolated? Is there any reason to have the 2 rails connected?
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Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,464 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot
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Originally Posted by: Drongo  Hi Everyone,
I've started making another layout with C Track and I want to use TrainController with my CS2. Therefore I need to install sensors and create blocks within the track, however, every piece of track has to be cut so as to isolate the 2 rails.
My question is - why can't Marklin manufacture the C Track with the 2 rails already isolated? Is there any reason to have the 2 rails connected?
Regards Greg Yes, it makes the running of the trains more reliable. I am surprised your blocks are such that you need to split the rails on EVERY piece of track. Note that it is an impracticality when you get to the points ...
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Joined: 18/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,081 Location: Denmark
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan  I am surprised your blocks are such that you need to split the rails on EVERY piece of track. Note that it is an impracticality when you get to the points... If you want to have a feedback sensor in a block, you need to cut the connection between the two rails in the join underneath each piece of C track. Otherwise the feedback sensor will not work. There is a connection in both end of every piece of track. A normal wire cutter will do. I also push the metal pieces a bit away from each other. Some times they can begin to touch each other, which will ruin the isolation of the rail. |
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Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe
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You can use other types of sensors to avoid cutting the connections between tracks. The main advantage of the Marklin 3 rail system is its superior current conducting properties, and this is negated when the tracks are isolated in this way. It also means that if you are using non-Marklin wagons with original 2 rail wheels they wont be detected.
For trains detection many people use optical sensors or magnetic reed switches, especially in the 2 rail DC world.
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Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,589 Location: Spain
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Originally Posted by: RayF  The main advantage of the Marklin 3 rail system is its superior current conducting properties, and this is negated when the tracks are isolated in this way. Not totally. Once the first pair of wheels bridges one rail to the other, the other also becomes "ground". Once a whole consist is present on the track, there will not be any difference between the potential of the rails. To use this system for train-detection is one of the huge advantages of the 3-rail system! |
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Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,441 Location: DE-NW
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Originally Posted by: hxmiesa  Not totally. Once the first pair of wheels bridges one rail to the other, the other also becomes "ground". Consider a Köf III running all alone. Three wheels without traction tyres for good contact. On a contact track there is a 50% chance that only one wheel without traction tyre will be left on the "ground" side with two wheels on the "dead" side. When used with s88, the famous diode trick can improve contact in such a case. Originally Posted by: Drongo  My question is - why can't Marklin manufacture the C Track with the 2 rails already isolated? Is there any reason to have the 2 rails connected? You need three feeder wires if they are isolated, only two if they are connected. It's easy to cut them, it's more complicated to connect them. For C track without centre rail, they cut the bridge at the factory. K track comes isolated (most pieces except feeder tracks and some turnouts), C track comes connected. |
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Joined: 03/06/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,249 Location: Sydney, NSW
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