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Well it looks like it may be a cheap year for me, which is good as I overspent this year considerably  Lets hope the Insider models are better BR Glenn |
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Hi Boy more pictures in special the start set 29710 as the composition of the same. And please someone can get a brochure.
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz  Originally Posted by: RayF The newer steam locos tend to be quite expensive. I think I might go for the Br57 without sound to keep the cost down. I think I might go for the desktop bitmap picture of the Br57 to keep the cost all the way down! Dreaming costs nothing! I used to do a lot of that when I had a young family and my wife was working part time. My pay would just about cover essentials so new locos during that period were limited to about one a year or less. |
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As it so happens, I obtained a PDF copy of the Eisenbahn Journal Dampflok Report #4 from 1997, which included some pages on the Br57. It's in German, so I can't read the text at all, but the pictures and diagrams are quite useful. I seems there were quite a few variants of the Br57. I've attached an extract to this post with 9 pages from the magazine on the Br57.
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Originally Posted by: steventrain I think marklin told all dealers to 10% limit discount on new items.  It's a pity that Marklin didn't tell dealers to stop price gouging as in the case of the 43866 dinning car - most prices on ebay are 80% to 100% above the RRP (129.95 eur).
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Originally Posted by: 60904 Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow .... G5/5 steam locomotive may be using the same frame and motion assembly as the recently released 3716x series of 0-10-0 tank engines.
With the driving rod big end on the 3rd axle from the front.
Driving wheel sizes are within 8cm.
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Kimball The wheel arrangement is different. It will not be the same, but quite similar. Yes, thanks, I can see that the axle spacings are different between second and third axles, compared to the 3716x series. There will still be some standardisation of parts. regards Kimball |
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto
The G5/5 doesn't even show Telex in the photo. It is also a loco that doesn't have lots of pipes so it is assembled faster.
Things that could justify such a high price (in my perspective) are:
1- telex and smoke Seuthe both together are ok for more 30 euros in the price.
2- brushless motor (still dreaming with the SDS)
3- Cabin inside with great detail and painted in prototype colours
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5- Really multi digital systems including mfx+ and DCC with Railcom+
1.Telex from Märklin are "clumsy". 2.Too expensive to produce and not working good with the DCC protocol. 3.Agreed!But that will been too expensive as result,if not less you do it yourself. 4.Märklin do already started as standard in fine models. 5.I prefer to write...mfx protocol to use similar same like DCC protocol,when you buy ready digital sound locomotive.So you can also use it with MS2.Today you don´t. |
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I hope this time Märklin will do change K-tracks.
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: mbarreto
The G5/5 doesn't even show Telex in the photo. It is also a loco that doesn't have lots of pipes so it is assembled faster.
Things that could justify such a high price (in my perspective) are:
1- telex and smoke Seuthe both together are ok for more 30 euros in the price.
2- brushless motor (still dreaming with the SDS)
3- Cabin inside with great detail and painted in prototype colours
4- Light inside the cabin
5- Really multi digital systems including mfx+ and DCC with Railcom+
1.Telex from Märklin are "clumsy". 2.Too expensive to produce and not working good with the DCC protocol. 3.Agreed!But that will been too expensive as result,if not less you do it yourself. 4.Märklin do already started as standard in fine models. 5.I prefer to write...mfx protocol to use similar same like DCC protocol,when you buy ready digital sound locomotive.So you can also use it with MS2.Today you don´t. About first 2 points: I like the new Telex couplers when used with the current close couplers. The SDS works good and it is not dependent on the protocol between the command station and the decoder. It just needs appropriate electronics to be controlled. |
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Now the PDF in Spainish available for all (it's de PDF that I took the photos some days ago) http://www.marklin-spain.com/homeThere's Marklin, TRIX and LGB Marklin confirm to dealers that all news will be out next week |
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No Re 484 in Swiss set 29484  but an Ae 610 Cargo, and an mfx sound decoder in a €400 starter set: Digital-Startpackung "Schweizer Güterzug". 230 Volt. Vorbild: Elektrolokomotive Serie Ae 610 der Schweizerischen Bundesbahnen, Bereich Güterverkehr (SBB Cargo). Vier verschiedene Schweizer Güterwagen: 1 vierachsiger offener Güterwagen Eaos, 1 vierachsiger Kesselwagen für Lebensmitteltransporte, 1 zweiachsiger Rungenwagen, sowie 1 Staubsilowagen der Bauart Ucs. Alle Wagen eingestellt bei den Schweizerischen Bundesbahnen (SBB/CFF/FFS). Modell: Lokomotive in Metallausführung, mit Digital-Decoder mfx und umfangreichen Geräuschfunktionen. Geregelter Hochleistungsantrieb. 3 Achsen angetrieben, Haftreifen. Fahrtrichtungsabhängiger Schweizer Lichtwechsel (Dreilicht-Spitzensignal und 1 weißes Schlusslicht), konventionell in Betrieb, digital schaltbar. Umbauversion der Ae 610 mit geänderten Griffstangen und unten angeschlagenem Scheibenwischer. Alle Wagen mit Kurzkupplungen. Länge des Zuges 76,6 cm. Inhalt: 12 gebogene Gleise 24130, 5 gerade Gleise 24188, 7 gerade Gleise 24172, 2 gebogene Gleise 24224 und 1 Paar Weichen 24611 und 24612. Gleisanschlussbox, Schaltnetzteil 230 V/36 VA und Mobile Station. Illustriertes Spielbuch mit vielen Tipps und Anregungen. Erweiterungsmöglichkeiten mit den C-Gleis-Ergänzungspackungen und mit dem gesamten C-Gleis-Programm. |
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Hi
I see it comes with a smoke generator and a lighted firebox.
But sadly no SDS Motor.
Its just another Steam loco to me how many of them was there how about a model of the latest ICE.
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Originally Posted by: ice 1
But sadly no SDS Motor.
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Originally Posted by: Bart No Re 484 in Swiss set 29484 but an Ae 610 Cargo, and an mfx sound decoder in a €400 starter set: Digital-Startpackung "Schweizer Güterzug". 230 Volt. Vorbild: Elektrolokomotive Serie Ae 610 der Schweizerischen Bundesbahnen, Bereich Güterverkehr (SBB Cargo). Vier verschiedene Schweizer Güterwagen: 1 vierachsiger offener Güterwagen Eaos, 1 vierachsiger Kesselwagen für Lebensmitteltransporte, 1 zweiachsiger Rungenwagen, sowie 1 Staubsilowagen der Bauart Ucs. Alle Wagen eingestellt bei den Schweizerischen Bundesbahnen (SBB/CFF/FFS). Modell: Lokomotive in Metallausführung, mit Digital-Decoder mfx und umfangreichen Geräuschfunktionen. Geregelter Hochleistungsantrieb. 3 Achsen angetrieben, Haftreifen. Fahrtrichtungsabhängiger Schweizer Lichtwechsel (Dreilicht-Spitzensignal und 1 weißes Schlusslicht), konventionell in Betrieb, digital schaltbar. Umbauversion der Ae 610 mit geänderten Griffstangen und unten angeschlagenem Scheibenwischer. Alle Wagen mit Kurzkupplungen. Länge des Zuges 76,6 cm. Inhalt: 12 gebogene Gleise 24130, 5 gerade Gleise 24188, 7 gerade Gleise 24172, 2 gebogene Gleise 24224 und 1 Paar Weichen 24611 und 24612. Gleisanschlussbox, Schaltnetzteil 230 V/36 VA und Mobile Station. Illustriertes Spielbuch mit vielen Tipps und Anregungen. Erweiterungsmöglichkeiten mit den C-Gleis-Ergänzungspackungen und mit dem gesamten C-Gleis-Programm. Livery Similer to 37360. |
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Full 2015 new items will be show on Marklin database from 19 January 2015 or later. |
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I also do hope if Märklin this time do change working tools for railcar,due to better service by change out traction tyres. |
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Well if its cheaper for Marklin to make locos without the SDS motor you think they would pass that saving onto customers or give a customer a choice pay extra for an SDS motor if you wish.I feel its a backward step.
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Originally Posted by: ice 1 Well if its cheaper for Marklin to make locos without the SDS motor you think they would pass that saving onto customers or give a customer a choice pay extra for an SDS motor if you wish.I feel its a backward step. Trix did also had SDS motor with same models like Märklin´s. But there was defaults with DCC protocol and angry customer who bought Trix models. That did also cost for Märklin Company to compensate their customers. No it´s not backward step. It´s an lesson for Märklin. |
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OKAY
I just hope all the people with C-Sine motors can get replacements when there motors die in time.
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 Quote:Trix did also had SDS motor with same models like Märklin´s.
But there was defaults with DCC protocol and angry customer who bought Trix models. The controller for the SDS motor has nothing to do with the protocol controlling the decoder. Per. |
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Originally Posted by: Purellum The controller for the SDS motor has nothing to do with the protocol controlling the decoder. Not necessarily. But Märklin developed one type of controller boards for Trix locos with D&H decoders and another type for Märklin locos with ESU decoders. But I think the DC users were complaining, not the DCC users. |
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Yes
But will Marklin offer replacement SDS and CCS motors to customers who have them in there locos.
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Originally Posted by: ice 1 Yes
But will Marklin offer replacement SDS and CCS motors to customers who have them in there locos.
I wouldn't be surprised if they have a small stock of them in their service department for factory repairs. |
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Tom, I don't disagree; but still, the SDS controller has nothing to do with the protocol being used. I think most of Goofy's information is based on rumours, read in a language he don't understand, Google translated to Swedish, and then Google translated to English and posted here. Most older M-users probably knows; but newcomers might believe a lot of this misinformation. Per. |
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I Dont know myself but if Marklin wanted them problems could be overcome with the SDS motor the real reason must be cost which makes sense i suppose.
Its great how such a small motor can generate such power etc to pull coaches n wagons etc at speed.
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Originally Posted by: Purellum Tom, I don't disagree; but still, the SDS controller has nothing to do with the protocol being used. I think most of Goofy's information is based on rumours, read in a language he don't understand, Google translated to Swedish, and then Google translated to English and posted here. Most older M-users probably knows; but newcomers might believe a lot of this misinformation. Per. I did had one Trix diesel locomotive with SDS motor. It did hade same PCB and decoder like Märklin´s. But used for DCC protocol. It was deafults between SDS and protocol. Next time did Trix put Faulhaber motor. It did worked good again. So yes dane it was difference! Märklin will never ever put SDS motor back again in the new models. |
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Goofy, this topic is about Märklin 2015 new items; not about a loco you once had. If you would like to tell us about your loco, please start a new topic, and tell us which Trix loco you had, which had the same decoder as a similar Märklin loco. DCC is a protocol ( language ), and has nothing to do with the motor controller!!! Per. |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Full 2015 new items will be show on Marklin database from 19 January 2015 or later. My dealer confirm me that the next week news will be out And on Thursday put the information form arrivals and he say that have the brochure of the news. A Marklin Store make a presentation of the news on 17th of this month.... |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy
I did had one Trix diesel locomotive with SDS motor.
It did hade same PCB and decoder like Märklin´s.
But used for DCC protocol.
Hello Goofy, this is false. Trix Locos with SDS had different PCB and Decoders. On Trix locos the control of the SDS driver happens through SUSI Interface, on Märklin loco's trough the AUX functions. That's why in the manual of the 60940 mSD special decoder is mentioned, that you cannot install it in Trix SDS locs. but as said, this is OT. rgds. Stephan
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Hi all,
While looking for a few 'normal' Märklin items in the maerklin.de product search, the search went down showing an 'in maintenance' message. Quite likely the 2015 New Items are being loaded onto the database right now... ;)
Edit 12:37 (CET): No luck yet, the search is back online without the New Items visible (yet...). Keeping those fingers crossed for news to come soon.
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Starter set Image.
The loco in the 'mein start with Marklin' set looks like it could be the same one as in my Aldi start set,
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10% discount price limit on 2015 items at Lokshop. |
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: steventrain Starter set Image.
The loco in the 'mein start with Marklin' set looks like it could be the same one as in my Aldi start set, ...and the little electric in the set above it look like the other Aldi loco with a pantograph stuck on the roof! |
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Hello Steven. I can not se any news from Märklin? Only Old items ! Bertil Now I found it   |
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Nothing there  Oops found it yum love the new traxxx diesels |
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I presume the two locos in the page with the link are in the 2015 NI? has an E03/103 ever worn an overall dark blue livery ??? 
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan I presume the two locos in the page with the link are in the 2015 NI? has an E03/103 ever worn an overall dark blue livery ??? Interestingly, if you search the site for 37578 you get a dark blue 103 as a New Item ...
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Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Nothing there Oops found it yum love the new traxxx diesels I presume you are doing what I am doing, scrolling down looking for the blue 'Neuheit' boxes. At least they are obvious, once you realise what to look for. Most of the prices are 'on application' at present it seems.
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Unless I am doing something wrong the link does not take you to a Marklin New Items list, merely to a list of Marklin items for sale, the links on LHS show Fleishmann and others New Items but not Marklin. Am I missing something? BR Glenn |
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I like the Mak G2000! Especially in SBB cargo livery (37202) I've been looking at the Mehano models, but a Marklin version is even better!  |
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I'm having a lot of trouble getting on the website now. I got to page 3 and then page 4 refused to load. Now I can't access the website at all.... |
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Too many access the site. There is many more list not in the site such as Borsig edition, Reproduction 3050 Ae6/6 in twin pack (red and Green). 2015 new item brochure is out now in Germany today (BR18.5 on front cover) Link to stummi for image >Stummi< |
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