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steventrain		#1 Posted : 08 December 2013 09:35:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,689 Location: United Kingdom		[b] 2014 EXPORT MODEL Brochure now online - 10.9MB PDF >ENGLISH/SWEDEN< >FRANCE/HOLLAND< >GERMANY/ITALY< Online 244 page Brochure >ENGLISH< >GERMANY< >FRANCE< >HOLLAND< >ITALY< >SPAIN< >Marklin database English 2014< Edited by moderator 01 January 2018 22:01:42(UTC)  | Reason: Topic no longer 'Sticky'
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H0		#2 Posted : 08 December 2013 09:54:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,443 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: steventrain BR151 Electric return to production - 151 033 in new SRI blue livery (Special edition?). This is known for ages - and since then there is speculation about a new mould for BR 151 (following new moulds for 141, 110.1, 110.3, 140, 150). Another new Märklin item: SBB Re 460 with VSLF advertising: http://www.vslf.com/207.html?&L=2%2Fxmlr…ch%5Bext%5D%3D1 Nice design IMHO and advertising for the Swiss loco driver union.
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steventrain		#3 Posted : 08 December 2013 10:13:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,689 Location: United Kingdom		I like the livery, Maybe I will buy one if marklin will can do it.
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Goofy		#4 Posted : 08 December 2013 10:56:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,277		Excellent Steven!! Keep ahead with the information.
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Goofy		#5 Posted : 08 December 2013 10:58:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,277		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: steventrain BR151 Electric return to production - 151 033 in new SRI blue livery (Special edition?). This is known for ages - and since then there is speculation about a new mould for BR 151 (following new moulds for 141, 110.1, 110.3, 140, 150). Another new Märklin item: SBB Re 460 with VSLF advertising: http://www.vslf.com/207.html?&L=2%2Fxmlr…ch%5Bext%5D%3D1 Nice design IMHO and advertising for the Swiss loco driver union. Serious??? Who wants an angry owl on the layout!?
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vilithejou		#6 Posted : 08 December 2013 11:16:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 849 Location: Vic, Barcelona		Next week maybe, we know the Märklin Museumwagen 2013 Let'ss see
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petestra		#7 Posted : 09 December 2013 14:49:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 5,862 Location: Leesburg,VA.USA		Hey, I like this Lok and it would be a different type for Märklin. I love the sloped down front like some British Loks have. I hope they see this thread. Peter
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steventrain		#8 Posted : 09 December 2013 17:22:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,689 Location: United Kingdom		Originally Posted by: vilithejou Next week maybe, we know the Märklin Museumwagen 2013 Let'ss see The presentation of the new Museumswagen 2014 is on December 18th in the evening.
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Bigdaddynz		#9 Posted : 12 December 2013 10:11:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		I have moved off topic posts on 3 pole motors and Wishlist models for 2014 into their own threads. I've also deleted other moderator posts trying to bring order to this thread, as they had become irrelevant due to me moving the offending posts. Moderator post edit: Moved more posts to the wishlisht topic to make this topic even cleaner /Webmaster Edited by moderator 12 December 2013 20:36:03(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Goofy		#10 Posted : 14 December 2013 08:44:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,277		Originally Posted by: steventrain BR151 Electric return to production - 151 033 in new SRI blue livery (Special edition?). Does the model have been verified by Marklin? I can not find the news in their website.
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H0		#11 Posted : 14 December 2013 09:23:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,443 Location: DE-NW		Märklin have made many models that never show in their product database (models for Herpa, Eurotrain, MC-Vedes, ...). Did they announce the 2014 museum car? No (but still we have a photo showing on this site). It's fun to see new models leaking at some dealers before they are officially announced. AFAIK you collect eras I and II, so why do you make such a fuss about a blue era VI loco? It may be a hoax, it may have been cancelled by the new M* management, it may have been delayed. Time will tell.
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Goofy		#12 Posted : 14 December 2013 09:39:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,277		Originally Posted by: H0 Märklin have made many models that never show in their product database (models for Herpa, Eurotrain, MC-Vedes, ...). Did they announce the 2014 museum car? No (but still we have a photo showing on this site). It's fun to see new models leaking at some dealers before they are officially announced. AFAIK you collect eras I and II, so why do you make such a fuss about a blue era VI loco? It may be a hoax, it may have been cancelled by the new M* management, it may have been delayed. Time will tell. I don´t fuss any models. Yes time will tell...but so far it´s speculation. If any model will become presents,Marklin verified it. Museum car has always been verified via news,but first when Marklin did verified it.
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H0		#13 Posted : 14 December 2013 09:48:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,443 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: Goofy If any model will become presents,Marklin verified it. No, Koll verifies every Märklin model (he can get hold of), but Märklin make OEM models silently and without official announcements. I have the Märklin models 36891, 37640, and 37842. Did Märklin ever "verify" those? Still they exist.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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Goofy		#14 Posted : 14 December 2013 14:36:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,277		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: Goofy If any model will become presents,Marklin verified it. No, Koll verifies every Märklin model (he can get hold of), but Märklin make OEM models silently and without official announcements. I have the Märklin models 36891, 37640, and 37842. Did Märklin ever "verify" those? Still they exist. Steven did wrote..."BR151 return to production"... Nope...there is no verified about this model.
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bens33		#15 Posted : 14 December 2013 15:51:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 47 Location: Belfast, N.Ireland		Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: Goofy If any model will become presents,Marklin verified it. No, Koll verifies every Märklin model (he can get hold of), but Märklin make OEM models silently and without official announcements. I have the Märklin models 36891, 37640, and 37842. Did Märklin ever "verify" those? Still they exist. Steven did wrote..."BR151 return to production"... Nope...there is no verified about this model. https://www.marklin-user...in-BR151.aspx#post365868
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Goofy		#16 Posted : 15 December 2013 15:31:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,277		I could only see prototyp models of BR151. But there is not standing Marklin name and if Marklin will produce those models...
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steventrain		#17 Posted : 28 December 2013 23:11:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,689 Location: United Kingdom		Rumour - Still not conform yet. @LIST removed@ Edited by user 29 December 2013 10:53:02(UTC)  | Reason: List removed and hidden
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steventrain		#18 Posted : 30 December 2013 22:40:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,689 Location: United Kingdom		This list was a project, Could be plan for 2014 but wait and see! 26593 Train Pack with electric locomotive series 150 / 151 26595 Train Pack with electric locomotive series 120 37004 Diesel locomotive series V100. 10/212 37046 Steam locomotive DRG class 80 37138 Steam locomotive series bay. D XII/73.0 37166 Steam locomotive series T16.1/94.5-18 37245 Electric locomotive series 22/23/25/25.5/122 of SNCB 37446 Electric locomotive series 146.2/185.5 37465 Electric locomotive series 146.2/185.5 37545 Steam locomotive series g-8.1 / 55 37564 Electric locomotive series CE 6 / 8 II and series be 6/8 II - "Crocodile" 37582 Railcar series ET91/491 37766 Diesel locomotive series 218 37863 Diesel locomotive series V60/260 37958 Steam locomotive DRG class 03/003 37988 Steam locomotive series P8/38/038 39053 Steam locomotive DRG class 05, no. 05 003 Cab forward. 39162 Steam locomotive DRG class 42.90 Franco-Crosti 39414 Electric locomotive series E41/141 39730 Drift car series 648.2 39950 Railcar class VT 95/795, two parts each with interior design
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jeehring		#19 Posted : 31 December 2013 09:21:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		39162 Steam locomotive DRG class 42.90 Franco-Crosti.....? DRG = Probably a typo error.....
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H0		#20 Posted : 31 December 2013 09:44:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,443 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: jeehring 39162 Steam locomotive DRG class 42.90 Franco-Crosti.....? DRG = Probably a typo error..... A translation error. The list on Stummi's Forum is correct at that point.
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jeehring		#21 Posted : 31 December 2013 09:51:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: jeehring 39162 Steam locomotive DRG class 42.90 Franco-Crosti.....? DRG = Probably a typo error..... A translation error. The list on Stummi's Forum is correct at that point. You mean the correct Cie is DB, I presume ?
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H0		#22 Posted : 31 December 2013 10:27:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,443 Location: DE-NW		Two locos of class 42.90 have been built for DB and were used exclusively by DB - and only for a few years (era III only). So DB is the only possible operator for a prototypically correct model. BTW: The 39162 (if it should come) will have the good old fashioned coffee-grinder DCM - like some class 101 models with 39xxx numbers before. And judging from the explosion diagram it will have two tiny speakers in the tub tender. A combination that leads to bad sound in my BR 52 model 37151. Link to Stummi's Forum: http://stummiforum.de/vi...c.php?p=1120372#p1120372
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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steventrain		#23 Posted : 31 December 2013 11:48:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,689 Location: United Kingdom		37166 (MHI) and 37766 will be have a MFX+. 26595, 37564 and 37582 could be a special items. 39053 could be 2nd Insider model in Summer if not in 14 January press list.
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vilithejou		#24 Posted : 31 December 2013 12:07:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 849 Location: Vic, Barcelona		Originally Posted by: steventrain 37166 (MHI) and 37766 will be have a MFX+. 26595, 37564 and 37582 could be a special items. 39053 could be 2nd Insider model in Summer if not in 14 January press list. 37564 is already announced. Is blue edition. Delivery in 2014
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steventrain		#25 Posted : 31 December 2013 12:28:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,689 Location: United Kingdom		Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: steventrain 37166 (MHI) and 37766 will be have a MFX+. 26595, 37564 and 37582 could be a special items. 39053 could be 2nd Insider model in Summer if not in 14 January press list. 37564 is alteady announced. Is blue edition. Delivery in 2014 Yes It is already back in April 2013. Already in the forum >37564 Topic<
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steventrain		#26 Posted : 31 December 2013 14:52:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,689 Location: United Kingdom		Originally Posted by: steventrain This list was a project, Could be plan for 2014 but wait and see! 39053 Steam locomotive DRG class 05, no. 05 003 Cab forward. I think it will be Borsig edition No.3 of 5
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I_love_Marklin_37538		#27 Posted : 01 January 2014 06:44:43(UTC) Retweet
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H0		#28 Posted : 01 January 2014 08:22:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,443 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: I_love_Marklin_37538 Will the DRG BR 03 have sound and MFX+? Who knows? Could be an era III or era IV version anyway (DRG is a translation artefact). After two era III versions, it probably is era II or era IV.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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foumaro		#29 Posted : 01 January 2014 09:10:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,430 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		With all the above my wallet is safe.
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steventrain		#30 Posted : 01 January 2014 10:26:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,689 Location: United Kingdom		14 days to Marklin press 2014 new items. Edited by user 05 January 2014 09:55:06(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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H0		#31 Posted : 01 January 2014 10:45:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,443 Location: DE-NW		There were only two streamlined locos of BR 03 (and not likely Märklin will make one of those). The other BR 03 locos were never streamlined, not even in era II - and Märklin will make an era II BR 03 sooner or later.
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RayF		#32 Posted : 01 January 2014 11:07:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		I might be interested in this, depending on what the era/livery is 37138 Steam locomotive series bay. D XII/73.0 I like the unusual wheel arrangement.
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jeehring		#33 Posted : 01 January 2014 11:25:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Originally Posted by: RayF I might be interested in this, depending on what the era/livery is 37138 Steam locomotive series bay. D XII/73.0 I like the unusual wheel arrangement. I BET ON A BLACK LIVERY DRG ERA II......
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biedmatt		#34 Posted : 01 January 2014 13:50:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,343 Location: Southwest Ohio		This is the only thing that catches my eye. 37564 Electric locomotive series CE 6 / 8 II and series be 6/8 II - "Crocodile" The "and" is what puzzles me. I can not believe they would do another two loko set so soon. Perhaps they mean one that was built as a Ce and then upgraded to a Be, which is what I need, a green kroc in 1/87 scale. I have a version of all the others-four of the 1/75s and a brown 1/87. Just need a green 1/87. I passed on the one from the two loko set. While the double entry ladders for the cab were correct for that particular loko, it wasn't really indicative of the series when rebuilt and it just felt wrong.
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H0		#35 Posted : 01 January 2014 14:12:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,443 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: biedmatt The "and" is what puzzles me. Another translation artefact. The source reads "or ... respectively". The source is not Märklin. 37564 is the blue crocodile that was announced months ago.
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biedmatt		#36 Posted : 01 January 2014 14:40:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,343 Location: Southwest Ohio		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: biedmatt The "and" is what puzzles me. Another translation artefact. The source reads "or ... respectively". The source is not Märklin. 37564 is the blue crocodile that was announced months ago. Forgot about the blue Kroc. Wrong era, so I guess my wallet is solid for a while. I'll keep chasing sinus drive lokos.
		Matt Era 3 DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control. With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
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Janne75		#37 Posted : 01 January 2014 15:09:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/03/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,550 Location: Finland		That 37564 "blue Crocodile" prototype in the advertisement was 14305 Ce 6/8 III (like Märklin model 3756) originally green and weathered to look blue. I just wonder how can it then be Ce 6/8 II and Be 6/8 II? Märklin did 3756 model as a green version from Ce 6/8 III and Be 6/8 III (13305). A completely different engines... I mean II and III variant. I was hoping for a old mould center motored "big" blue Crocodile. I sent e-mail to that shop taking orders and asked details about this 37564 blue Crocodile model. So far no reply. Cheers, Janne
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steventrain		#38 Posted : 01 January 2014 15:38:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,689 Location: United Kingdom		Originally Posted by: Janne75 I was hoping for a old mould center motored "big" blue Crocodile. I sent e-mail to that shop taking orders and asked details about this 37564 blue Crocodile model. So far no reply. Cheers, Janne The 37564 was same model as 39560-39564. But 39560-4 have C-shine/SDS motors and 37564 will be five pole motor.
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H0		#39 Posted : 01 January 2014 16:15:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,443 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: Janne75 I just wonder how can it then be Ce 6/8 II and Be 6/8 II? It is Be 6/8 III or Ce 6/8 III. Somebody searched Märklin's web server for explosion diagrams of previously unknown models. He then derived the classes from the drawings. With this loco he made a mistake. 37564 is the old mould, one motor, three axles powered. Therefore we can only speculate if the models will come, which era and which livery they will be.
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Janne75		#40 Posted : 01 January 2014 17:29:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/03/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,550 Location: Finland		Well, if this is the case I will really consider if I will buy it or not. If it would have been old center motored "big" blue Crocodile I definitely want it. Why they print then photo of "3015 like" blue older Crocodile on the box? Maybe I will then buy instead older than 37567 black Crocodile 39564 instead as second hand purchase. Regards, Janne
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steventrain		#41 Posted : 03 January 2014 21:53:08(UTC) Retweet
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Janne75		#42 Posted : 03 January 2014 22:01:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/03/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,550 Location: Finland		Hi all, Today I got e-mail answer confirmation to my question what model 37564 blue Crocodile is based to. It is done to similar mould as 39560 like Stephen already wrote above. So it is quite sure I will not order it then. And if it has 5-pole DCM motor and costs 575 euro I will then buy an "old-new" 39564 black Crocodile in it's wooden box if I buy some very expensive locomotive in 2014. Or maybe old-new 37450 BR 45 . Regards, Janne
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foumaro		#43 Posted : 04 January 2014 05:06:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,430 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		Between black-blue-pink-red crokos,choose the BR45,believe me is is perfect.
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Janne75		#44 Posted : 04 January 2014 08:56:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/03/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,550 Location: Finland		Originally Posted by: foumaro Between black-blue-pink-red crokos,choose the BR45,believe me is is perfect. Hi, I think that this 37450 BR 45 will be "the locomotive" purchase of the year 2014 for me. It's best to forget other ones like Swiss Crocodiles, 37078 BR 78 and some others and just buy the real stuff and just enjoy it for years. I have wanted one over 10 years, so... But next no eBay purchases before I have paid my deal with the best seller in Germany (for me). I have bought from him over 50 locomotives. 37521 SBB De 6/6 "baby Crocodile" project and 37591 Ae 8/14 "giant" for only 200 euro together. These can well be my last SBB locomotives for a long time then. Time to really get that 37450 BR 45 in 2014. I will give a New Year's promise to get one in 2014, sooner or later. Cheers, Janne
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foumaro		#45 Posted : 04 January 2014 09:12:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,430 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		This is the right decision,you will not regret it believe me.Just have in mind that you have to collect some era III cars to make a nice train for the loco.Maybe you allready have,so this the best.Good hunting,we are expecting good news.
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Janne75		#46 Posted : 04 January 2014 19:32:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/03/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,550 Location: Finland		Originally Posted by: foumaro This is the right decision,you will not regret it believe me.Just have in mind that you have to collect some era III cars to make a nice train for the loco.Maybe you allready have,so this the best.Good hunting,we are expecting good news. Yes, I have many DB era III freight cars already to make a nice long freight train with 37450 BR 45. You will get the good news later. Now I have a total eBay buying break for a while... Cheers, Janne
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Goofy		#47 Posted : 04 January 2014 19:33:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,277		Originally Posted by: foumaro Between black-blue-pink-red crokos,choose the BR45,believe me is is perfect. To much mixed color is "gaying"... Nahhh...i prefer green or brown croco.
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Janne75		#48 Posted : 04 January 2014 19:40:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/03/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,550 Location: Finland		Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: foumaro Between black-blue-pink-red crokos,choose the BR45,believe me is is perfect. To much mixed color is "gaying"... Nahhh...i prefer green or brown croco. Hi Anders, Yes, I also prefer green and brown Crocodiles, but when you have already many of them you (maybe) want something different. I have then at the moment two "fantasy livery" big white Crocodile 31860 (New York Central Lines) and new black-red Crocodile 37567. As a collector I'm interested in 39564 black-red older Crocodile too. If the new "blue'" = weathered from green one 37564 Crocodile would have been also done to same mould as 31860 white = 3015 or CCS 800 I would have ordered it then. PS. I don't use pink shirts! Cheers, Janne
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Webmaster		#49 Posted : 04 January 2014 20:56:24(UTC) Retweet
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H0		#50 Posted : 07 January 2014 10:39:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,443 Location: DE-NW		A list of "confirmed" items appeared on Stummi's Forum (don't know who confirmed that information): http://stummiforum.de/vi...c.php?p=1126372#p1126372 English: Starter sets: 29043 - Digital Mega Starter Set "DB, Ep IV) - € 1599.95 29255 - Starter Set "French construction train" - € 439.95 29321 - Starter Set freight train of the Federal Railway (start up) - € 199.95 29463 - Digital Mega Starter Set "CH rail" - € 1599.95 29711 - Digital Starter Package "DB, epoch III" with 1 MS - € 359.95 The following locomotive models are confirmed: 37576 - BR 103, Ep IV - 299.95 € 37923 - BR 41 old, Ep III - 429.95 € 37924 - BR 41 old, Ep IIIa - 369.95 € 39730 - BR 648.2 DB AG - 549.95 € 39950 - BR VT 95.9 + VB 140, Ep IIIa - 379.95 € German: Folgende Startpackungen wird es geben: 29043 – Digitale Mega-Startpackung „DB, Ep. IV) – 1599,95 Euro 29255 – Startpackung „Französicher Bauzug“ – 439,95 Euro 29321 – Startpackung Güterzug der Bundesbahn (start up) – 199,95 Euro 29463 – Digitale Mega-Startpackung „CH Bahnverkehr“ – 1599,95 Euro 29711 – Digital-Startpackung „DB, Epoche III“ mit 1 MS – 359,95 Euro Folgende Lokmodelle sind bestätigt: 37576 – BR 103, Ep. IV – 299,95 Euro 37923 – BR 41 Altbau, Ep. III – 429,95 Euro 37924 – BR 41 Altbau, Ep. IIIa – 369,95 Euro 39730 – BR 648.2 DB AG – 549,95 Euro 39950 – BR VT 95.9 + VB 140, Ep. IIIa – 379,95 Euro
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