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Zora la rousse		#1 Posted : 11 July 2008 12:07:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/10/2005(UTC) Posts: 856 Location: ,		Due to a derailment yesterday 10 July 2008 at Köln the ICE3 Amsterdam - Frankfurt am Main is temporary out of use. All sets will be investigated first before they return into service. Die Bahn (with PDF of trains taken out of use and alternative connections): http://www.bahn.de/blitz/view/index.shtml See also this newsitems in the German newspapers —> Der Spiegel: http://www.spiegel.de/re...ll/0,1518,564922,00.html Welt Online: http://www.welt.de/vermi...ptbahnhof_entgleist.html
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renevoorburg		#2 Posted : 11 July 2008 13:22:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/10/2005(UTC) Posts: 382 Location: Planet Earth (mostly)		This morning at Utrecht station it was announced like "Due to technical problems, there will be no ICE trains to Germany today. We apologize for the inconvenience." As simple as that, not alternatives given -[:(!] René - trying to obtain tickets to Zürich that were never delivered [:(]
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Weltenbummler		#3 Posted : 11 July 2008 16:57:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 459 Location: Berlin (D)		Hi, it's not only AMS - FRA. It's nearly all train relations run by ICE 3 all over Germany. Lots of lines are cancelled and a few ones are run by replacements trains like IC. This is a precaution check, as they learned something out of the Eschede desaster in the 90's.
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spitzenklasse		#4 Posted : 11 July 2008 18:59:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,573 Location: ,		I'm sure the delays will be short lived. The DB is well managed. It could have to do with the warmer season affecting wheelset linings? Wasn't the Eschede crash in May of 1988?
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Tivvy		#5 Posted : 11 July 2008 19:44:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 414 Location: Melbourne, Victoria		Is is at the Hauptbahnhoff or at Messe-Deutz?
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jonquinn		#6 Posted : 12 July 2008 05:08:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by spitzenklasse <br />I'm sure the delays will be short lived. The DB is well managed. It could have to do with the warmer season affecting wheelset linings? Wasn't the Eschede crash in May of 1988? if this was the very bad high fatality crash you are referring to, it was due to the steel "tire" delaminating from the wheel - unwinding almost as a piece of tape would from its spool. the straightened out steel tire thrust through the floor narrowly missing impaling a seated passenger. I guess at that point the train became unstable at the high speeds it was moving. http://en.wikipedia.org/...i/Eschede_train_disaster apparently a bad design.
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mmervine		#7 Posted : 12 July 2008 05:36:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,894 Location: Keene, NH		I wonder if there is any impact on Spain's AVE and China's versions?
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Tivvy		#8 Posted : 12 July 2008 05:47:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 414 Location: Melbourne, Victoria		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jonquinn <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by spitzenklasse <br />I'm sure the delays will be short lived. The DB is well managed. It could have to do with the warmer season affecting wheelset linings? Wasn't the Eschede crash in May of 1988? if this was the very bad high fatality crash you are referring to, it was due to the steel "tire" delaminating from the wheel - unwinding almost as a piece of tape would from its spool. the straightened out steel tire thrust through the floor narrowly missing impaling a seated passenger. I guess at that point the train became unstable at the high speeds it was moving. http://en.wikipedia.org/...i/Eschede_train_disaster apparently a bad design. That is essentially what happened, it is also believed to have put the axel out of place. This then caught on the rails at a point which is what finally caused the train to derail.
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Weltenbummler		#9 Posted : 13 July 2008 14:06:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 459 Location: Berlin (D)		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Tivvy <br />Is is at the Hauptbahnhoff or at Messe-Deutz? The train was geting out of the Hauptbahnhof crossing over the bridge to Deutz. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by spitzenklasse <br />I'm sure the delays will be short lived. The DB is well managed. It could have to do with the warmer season affecting wheelset linings? Wasn't the Eschede crash in May of 1988? The Eschede desaster happened on 3rd June 1998
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Tivvy		#10 Posted : 13 July 2008 15:26:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 414 Location: Melbourne, Victoria		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Thomas Duengefeld <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Tivvy <br />Is is at the Hauptbahnhoff or at Messe-Deutz? The train was geting out of the Hauptbahnhof crossing over the bridge to Deutz. So the train actually derailed whilst in/on the bridge.
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Weltenbummler		#11 Posted : 13 July 2008 16:31:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 459 Location: Berlin (D)		Part of the train was on the Hohenzollernbrücke already when the derailment happened. Last coaches were still at the platform so that all passengers could leave the train safely.
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Zora la rousse		#12 Posted : 14 July 2008 10:55:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/10/2005(UTC) Posts: 856 Location: ,		Spotted today some ICE3 running again. According to NS Hispeed sometimes you need to change in Emmerich or Köln.
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