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Offline DaleSchultz  
#1 Posted : 31 January 2008 03:54:59(UTC)
DaleSchultz

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I sat down last night and painted 15 K-track bumpers...
http://layout.mixmox.com/1/buffer
Dale
Intellibox + own software, K-Track
My current layout: https://cabin-layout.mixmox.com
Arrival and Departure signs: https://remotesign.mixmox.com
Offline sudibarba  
#2 Posted : 31 January 2008 05:36:31(UTC)
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Dale,
I am amazed at the time you seem to have with your job, wife and teenagers. Nice work. As long as your wife keeps cutting the grass ( which I saw) I'm sure you will lead us on.
Eric
Offline foumaro  
#3 Posted : 31 January 2008 07:33:30(UTC)
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Congratulations for your work and especially congratulations for the
perfect way you present for us your great work.biggrin
Offline Legless  
#4 Posted : 31 January 2008 09:52:55(UTC)
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Love your work and thanks for showing up the evolution of your layout. biggrinbiggrin
Legless
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Offline Legless  
#5 Posted : 31 January 2008 09:56:48(UTC)
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Sorry Dale,
A typing mistake. It should have read;
Love your work and thanks for showing us the evolution of your layout.

Legless
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Offline PierreGILLARD  
#6 Posted : 31 January 2008 15:25:17(UTC)
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Very inspiring work, Dale. Smile

Thanks.

Pierre.
Offline ulf999  
#7 Posted : 31 January 2008 20:20:17(UTC)
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Dale, you keep a fast pace! I feel like a lazy bum![:I]
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Offline rschaffr  
#8 Posted : 31 January 2008 22:07:27(UTC)
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Dale: Beautiful work. I suppose I should start getting into weathering...Sparkling clean locomotives pulling sparkling clean coaches over shiny rails is a bit surrealistic, I admit, but I have never been able to get the nerve to approach my expensive models with paint and powder. Smile Your work is exemplary.
-Ron
Digital, Epoch IV-V(K-track/IB), Epoch III(C-track/6021/6036/6051)
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Offline DaleSchultz  
#9 Posted : 31 January 2008 22:21:49(UTC)
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I know the feeling. I even put some rust color all over the supporting structure of my digital rotary crane - had to take a deep breath and then do it. Even the virgin track bumpers had some level of 'original condition' that is of value as silly as they look. It will take me some more time before I start desecrating my rolling stock...:-) (but I can leave that until the end)
Dale
Intellibox + own software, K-Track
My current layout: https://cabin-layout.mixmox.com
Arrival and Departure signs: https://remotesign.mixmox.com
Offline steamfriend  
#10 Posted : 01 February 2008 01:40:05(UTC)
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SUPERB job, Dale ! Well done ! I envy your rust style... Is it the powder that makes it that lively ?

Bob
Offline Ross  
#11 Posted : 01 February 2008 04:34:42(UTC)
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Hi Dale,

Nice work. It's amazing what a little paint will do. Keep the paint and ideas flowing [:p]
Ross
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Offline DaleSchultz  
#12 Posted : 01 February 2008 06:59:35(UTC)
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powder ? I just use acrylic paint

thanks
Dale
Intellibox + own software, K-Track
My current layout: https://cabin-layout.mixmox.com
Arrival and Departure signs: https://remotesign.mixmox.com
Offline monster134  
#13 Posted : 01 February 2008 08:17:50(UTC)
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Dale,this is eerie.I did mine on the week-end too.Great minds hehehehehe.Anyway,i dont know if you had the same problem,but the actual white cross "sleeper",is very shiny.I battled to cover it.Even with some enamel paint it just falls off.

I used some 1200 waterpaper and just sanded it a bit and the paint took.

Fleischmann had a nice track end.The grey one.
If at any stage in the defusing of a bomb,you should see a bomb technician running,try your utmost best to keep up with him-Army magazine of preventative action.
Offline Legless  
#14 Posted : 01 February 2008 12:11:27(UTC)
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Can't wait to see the crane. [:p]
Legless
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Offline Purellum  
#15 Posted : 01 February 2008 12:48:33(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:the actual white cross "sleeper",is very shiny.
And on 1-gauge bumpers only the front side is done nicely,
the back is "plastic-mould-shaped".

I've seen some ( still 1-gauge ) take the red/white sleeper of,
and replace it by an unpainted weathered piece of wood.

I have no idea if it can be done in H0; just giving ideas.

Per.
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Offline David Dewar  
#16 Posted : 01 February 2008 13:25:37(UTC)
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unpainted weathered piece of wood. now I wonder who supplies those !!!

Excellent work Dale. You are fantastic at detail.

David
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Offline PierreGILLARD  
#17 Posted : 01 February 2008 15:00:10(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by rschaffr
<br />(...) I suppose I should start getting into weathering...Sparkling clean locomotives pulling sparkling clean coaches over shiny rails is a bit surrealistic, I admit, but I have never been able to get the nerve to approach my expensive models with paint and powder. (...)


I have the same feeling as you, Ron. So I buy cars and locomotives from other brands such as Roco, Mehano, Fleischmann, or Piko that I weatherize. I leave then all my Märklin stuff in pristine condition.

Pierre.
Offline Purellum  
#18 Posted : 01 February 2008 15:58:53(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Posted by David Dewar:

unpainted weathered piece of wood. now I wonder who supplies those !!!
The answer to David’s wonder can be found here; however still unweathered. [:p] [:p] [:p]

And sorry, All; I sincerely didn’t try to sneak commercials into this topic. [:I] [:I]

Per.
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Offline kbvrod  
#19 Posted : 01 February 2008 18:10:07(UTC)
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Hi all,
Dale super work,as usual!Cool

You can make your own:

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[:I]

Dr Dirt
Offline PierreGILLARD  
#20 Posted : 01 February 2008 18:25:20(UTC)
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Thanks Dr Dirt.

For American layouts, we may use Walthers Track Bumpers # 933-3511

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Pierre.
Offline steventrain  
#21 Posted : 01 February 2008 19:08:39(UTC)
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Very good.
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline DaleSchultz  
#22 Posted : 01 February 2008 19:12:50(UTC)
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Riekus - yes the white beam is very smooth. I lost some flecks of paint too and last night I weather over those spots again so I do agree folks should sand them lightly first.

Kevin and Pierre - yes but I do think those are not very prototypical for Germany, those will only work for trains without buffers. Now I bet someone will prove me wrong by finding an image of such buffers in Germany - (may not be for a tram - must be on track used by trains with buffers!) :-)
Dale
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My current layout: https://cabin-layout.mixmox.com
Arrival and Departure signs: https://remotesign.mixmox.com
Offline kbvrod  
#23 Posted : 02 February 2008 05:48:55(UTC)
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Hi Dale,all,
Well in the old days,......Smile
If you look at the photo,this was siding(short) near a pile of lok scape.It was only meant as a warning,but I swear,I have seen prototype photos of this the W, Germany!CoolAnd most,or more likely East (DR) Germany.

Dr Dirt
Offline Pianne  
#24 Posted : 02 February 2008 12:09:02(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Purellum
<br />
Quote:
I've seen some ( still 1-gauge ) take the red/white sleeper of, and replace it by an unpainted weathered piece of wood.
I've seen a lot of those in prototype, however, I have never seen a prototype that had buffers on it, like the M* items. Could it be that M* only attached the buffers to avoid damage to the coupling when a train hits the bumper?
Please prove me wrong with a pictureCool
Kind regards,
Pieter-Jan
Bruges, Belgium.
Offline DaleSchultz  
#25 Posted : 02 February 2008 17:46:13(UTC)
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wow yes ! I cant find an image with buffers that stick out, but most do have some sort of large area for the train buffers to hit...

like this:
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Dale
Intellibox + own software, K-Track
My current layout: https://cabin-layout.mixmox.com
Arrival and Departure signs: https://remotesign.mixmox.com
Offline DaleSchultz  
#26 Posted : 02 February 2008 19:01:44(UTC)
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I think you are right Pieter-Jan - the Märklin couplings protrude beyond the buffers of the rolling stock so without the buffers on the track bumper there would be derailments, but then they could have made them like the picture above and had the couplings go between the buffer plates...
Dale
Intellibox + own software, K-Track
My current layout: https://cabin-layout.mixmox.com
Arrival and Departure signs: https://remotesign.mixmox.com
Offline Jim Thompson  
#27 Posted : 02 February 2008 19:23:26(UTC)
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Dale,

Try here

http://www.spur-n.com/prellbock5.html

Lots of pictures of prellblock, some with buffers, fifth pic down ("Prellbock im Dornröschenschlaf"), probably more.Smile Hope this is what you were looking for; if not, oops [:I]...


Jim
Offline DaleSchultz  
#28 Posted : 02 February 2008 20:40:27(UTC)
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what a fantastic page of images !
There is indeed examples of two ties embedded as a stop - all the way up to concrete chunks or just a pile of earth!
I am pleased to see however that the Märklin bumper is modelled on what seems to be a very common design and apart form the additional buffers, is very true to the prototype. There are even examples with buffers!
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I also see that the Sh0 signal is more common than the red Sh2, both of which are mounted on the right hand end of the stop although Sh2 is also centrally mounted.

It also shows a US stop as shown by Pierre.

This image:
UserPostedImage
is described as a Gleissicherung rather than a Prellblock. The examples of this type of 'stop' all seem to be in the middle of some track rather than at the end of track - and I am wondering if it is more of a 'signal' or derailer than an actual 'Prellblock'
Dale
Intellibox + own software, K-Track
My current layout: https://cabin-layout.mixmox.com
Arrival and Departure signs: https://remotesign.mixmox.com
Offline mmervine  
#29 Posted : 03 February 2008 01:32:45(UTC)
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Dale:

As usual...great work! Looking forward to stopping by again and seeing the progress.

r/mark
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Offline Pianne  
#30 Posted : 03 February 2008 14:30:57(UTC)
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Thanks for the link, Jim.
Kind regards,
Pieter-Jan
Bruges, Belgium.
Offline Jim Thompson  
#31 Posted : 03 February 2008 18:03:59(UTC)
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You are very welcome! Smile Glad I could help.

Jim
Offline kbvrod  
#32 Posted : 03 February 2008 20:04:49(UTC)
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Hi Jim,all,
Nice link!!! I *knew* I was right!LOL!!!wink

Dr Dirt
Offline Purellum  
#33 Posted : 05 February 2008 01:57:02(UTC)
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Pianne, only to for you. biggrin

I don't have a picture including the track bumper right now; but on this picture
you can see, that couplings are well below bumpers on the train, most likely
made this way to make easy acces for the uncoupling devices. biggrin
The couplings can pass the plank of a track bumper, and does when standing bumper-to-bumper.

Per.
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Offline Pianne  
#34 Posted : 05 February 2008 23:03:33(UTC)
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Per,

As demonstrated by my friend Woody in the picture, the relex couplings of HO-scale cars wood get caught on the wooden plank, if it wooden't have buffers. Even a wooden hand uncoupler wood have a hard time uncoupling that!biggrin
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Kind regards,
Pieter-Jan
Bruges, Belgium.
Offline Purellum  
#35 Posted : 11 February 2008 17:48:03(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:As demonstrated by my friend Woody in the picture, the relex couplings of HO-scale
cars wood get caught on the wooden plank, if it wooden't have buffers.
We wooden want that to happen! [:0]

Send my regards to Woody. biggrin

wink biggrin wink biggrin wink biggrin wink

I once had a girlfriend called Woody, by some of her older friends.

When she heard it for the first time, she asked why they called her so.

The answer came prompt: Because of the haircut!

Woody: But Woody Woodpecker doesn't have a haircut?

Answer: See, that's why! biggrin biggrin biggrin


Per.



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Offline Pianne  
#36 Posted : 11 February 2008 19:31:04(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Purellum
[brWoody: But Woody Woodpecker doesn't have a haircut?
Answer: See, that's why! biggrin biggrin biggrin
Aaah, so that's why he didn't want to take off his hat for the picture...biggrinbiggrinbiggrin
Kind regards,
Pieter-Jan
Bruges, Belgium.
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