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kimmo		#1 Posted : 21 March 2004 23:17:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 397 Location: ,		For those who like to look at pictures, I have just posted a lot of new pictures on my home page. These document the progress I have made during February (signals) and March (landscaping). Take a look and have fun. http://personal.inet.fi/private/kimmo.makinen/
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usbeauty		#2 Posted : 21 March 2004 23:32:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2003(UTC) Posts: 214 Location: San Francisco Bay area, California		It's really beautiful, kimmo. I like how you made C track blend in well with the ballast and landscape. Great job and thank you for sharing the photos. Bruce
		Modeling the Bruxelles - Nord to Knokke - Heist line on my layout, complete with pommes frites stand (frituur). (Epoch IV, digital and analog)
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rschaffr		#3 Posted : 22 March 2004 00:59:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,174 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		Nice work, Kimmo. I hope mine comes out half as nice.
		-Ron Digital, Epoch IV-V(K-track/IB), Epoch III(C-track/6021/6036/6051) http://www.sem-co.com/~rschaffr/trains/trains.html
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HueyCE		#4 Posted : 22 March 2004 01:31:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,528 Location: Groton, Connecticut		Excellent photos of the progression of the work. The landscaping came out really nice. Thanks for sharing.
		Building German Era I-II layout(Mk IIIc).
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jorge_vilarrubi		#5 Posted : 22 March 2004 02:51:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/12/2003(UTC) Posts: 655 Location: Buenos Aires,		Hi Kimmo, very nice layout in small space, a fine work. Thank you for sharing. Regards,
		Jorge Vilarrubí Buenos Aires ARGENTINA
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franciscohg		#6 Posted : 22 March 2004 05:22:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,209 Location: Patagonia		Really nice work Kimmo!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope my layout can get that look someday if i really get it finished (always thinking to expand and adding new tracks)
		German trains era I-II and selected III, era depends on the mood, mostly Maerklin but i can be heretic if needed XD, heresy is no longer an issue.. LOL
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Thanos		#7 Posted : 22 March 2004 09:12:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/03/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,088 Location: Athens,		I have said it before but I will also say it now! Bravo Kimmo, great work!!!
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kimmo		#8 Posted : 22 March 2004 13:34:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 397 Location: ,		I know that it is silly to open a new thread for this, as pretty much the same individuals will give the same polite comments as before. But it is the easiest way to let everyone know that the site has been updated.
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Thanos		#9 Posted : 22 March 2004 14:46:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/03/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,088 Location: Athens,		Opening a new thread to share your project with us is not silly!! [:p] Come on Kimmo!!! Have you seen my layout picture with the cows on the Faller Brewery thread? That's silly man![:I] Playing with little cows and being proud of it, is definitely silly... (That's a nice idea for another thread).
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kimmo		#10 Posted : 22 March 2004 15:01:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 397 Location: ,		Thanos, I have followed your brewery thread closely, and I admire the carefulness in which you do everything, and how much effort you put into it. You are a real modeller, far more than what I am doing. And regarding the cows, I am also planning to buy couple of cows and other farm animals to liven up the scenery around the forest house. They look really nice in the picture which you posted in the brewery thread. Keep it going, man!!
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rschaffr		#11 Posted : 22 March 2004 15:04:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,174 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		Kimmo: Definitely not silly. It is great to share techniques since everyone has a different approach to contouring and scenery development. Pictures like yours are very helpful to those of us that are still trying new techniques.
		-Ron Digital, Epoch IV-V(K-track/IB), Epoch III(C-track/6021/6036/6051) http://www.sem-co.com/~rschaffr/trains/trains.html
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usbeauty		#12 Posted : 22 March 2004 19:18:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2003(UTC) Posts: 214 Location: San Francisco Bay area, California		I would add that I don't feel we're offering just "polite" comments. Only other modelers know how difficult and time-consuming layout work is, and my comments to you are heartfelt and appreciative, not only for your nice work, but taking care to put up a site and share with us. Your work is a help to all of us. Thank you! Bruce
		Modeling the Bruxelles - Nord to Knokke - Heist line on my layout, complete with pommes frites stand (frituur). (Epoch IV, digital and analog)
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miccar		#13 Posted : 22 March 2004 21:10:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 35		Great layout Kimmo. Keep them pictures coming!
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franciscohg		#14 Posted : 23 March 2004 00:19:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,209 Location: Patagonia		Absolutely agreed with previous post. Keep sharing your layout with us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
		German trains era I-II and selected III, era depends on the mood, mostly Maerklin but i can be heretic if needed XD, heresy is no longer an issue.. LOL
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xxup		#15 Posted : 23 March 2004 10:35:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,404 Location: Australia		Ditto from me too.. Very Impressed..
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rschaffr		#16 Posted : 21 April 2004 21:32:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,174 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		I have finished the "North Valley" portion of my layout. This was my first effort in detailed scenery development (my previous interest has been in track laying and operation). I think it came out pretty well. Any suggestions? Here is a sample. Development of my layout is on my homepage http://www.sem-co.com/~rschaffr/trains/trains.html
		-Ron Digital, Epoch IV-V(K-track/IB), Epoch III(C-track/6021/6036/6051) http://www.sem-co.com/~rschaffr/trains/trains.html
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franciscohg		#17 Posted : 21 April 2004 21:40:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,209 Location: Patagonia		Hi Ron, it looks very nice, only the road seems to have been hitted by a grade 10 earthquake (When i post some pictures of my lanscaping you will certainly make such comments to me, so please don't get the comment in a bad way). BTW: The railroad tunnel (the important part, since we are here to play , sorry, operate trains) looks really really nice.
		German trains era I-II and selected III, era depends on the mood, mostly Maerklin but i can be heretic if needed XD, heresy is no longer an issue.. LOL
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rschaffr		#18 Posted : 21 April 2004 21:43:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,174 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		I know about the road. It's actually worse than it looks (proper positioning of the camera can do wonders). I tried to do it free form in plaster and couldn't get it just right. Maybe someday I'll tear that out and redo it. In the future, I will form the roads in wood and plaster around them. It was an interesting learning experience, though. I noticed that my site is getting unwieldy. When I can take a few moments away from the layout, I'll reorganize it then maybe I'll post it in the Links and Downloads section.
		-Ron Digital, Epoch IV-V(K-track/IB), Epoch III(C-track/6021/6036/6051) http://www.sem-co.com/~rschaffr/trains/trains.html
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kimmo		#19 Posted : 22 April 2004 15:06:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 397 Location: ,		Great work Ron! That K-track which is almost burried in the scenery material looks pretty good. Was it difficult to keep the studds and rails clean for good electrical contact?
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rschaffr		#20 Posted : 22 April 2004 15:55:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,174 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		Kimmo: No. Just did a lot of brushing with a narrow paint brush before I applied the scenery glue. I noticed in my pictures that I need to run some material further into the tunnels. Funny how things like that stand out in pictures that you don't see live.
		-Ron Digital, Epoch IV-V(K-track/IB), Epoch III(C-track/6021/6036/6051) http://www.sem-co.com/~rschaffr/trains/trains.html
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Thanos		#21 Posted : 22 April 2004 16:19:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/03/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,088 Location: Athens,		Great work Ron! I think I will be able to post some layout pictures as well this weekend. Now about the earthquake road - just kidding! . For my roads I haven't used any ready made road by Faller or Busch or Noch, as they look awful after some exposure to dust. I have originally used the Faller 170654 dark-grey landscape compound but it was not as good as I expected. Very messy when the sandpaper came into action. A lot of dust... [xx(] So I decided to paint over the dried compound. I used blue, white and some black to get the road color. It came out very nice and I really like it.
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Nuno		#22 Posted : 22 April 2004 21:12:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 235 Location: ,		Hi Ron I had a look at your site. Very nice work you are doing. Great pictures. Just one question about the catenary for the hidden parts of the layout: instead of the Noch (or Viessman?) system, wouldn't be enough to progressively raise the catenary wire as you go inside a tunnel? So that the loko would travel inside the tunnel most of the time with the pantographs raised and then at the way out there would be a symmetric descending wire. See what I mean? Do you think it could work just like that? Cheers, Nuno
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rschaffr		#23 Posted : 23 April 2004 01:41:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,174 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		Nuno: I use the catenary wires for power on all my e-loks. BTW that is the system sold by Noch, but I have seen identical items from other manufacturers. Anyone know who REALLY makes it?
		-Ron Digital, Epoch IV-V(K-track/IB), Epoch III(C-track/6021/6036/6051) http://www.sem-co.com/~rschaffr/trains/trains.html
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