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Hemmerich		#1 Posted : 28 January 2008 15:00:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		As known, an increasing number of new items is offered by both, Märklin and TRIX, with different road numbers. Especially with cars, TRIX models offer an excellent opportunity to complement their corresponding Märklin models/trains. Following you'll find a first list of those (no claim for 100% accuracy or completeness). Also listed are models which are offered on both product lines, but having same road numbers. M39020: DRG BR18 321 - SDS, mfx, full sound (T22180 same roadnumber) M39025: DRG BR18 327 - SDS, mfx, no sound (T22181 same roadnumber) M41928 DRG Rheingold car set (T23430 same roadnumbers) SA4ü-28: 20506, SA4ük-28: 20505, SB4ü-28: 24501, SB4ük-28: 24502, SPwü-28: 90201 M42755: Sleeper: 665A, 1961A; Baggage: 1204, 1206; Dining: 1733D M42760: Sleeper: 1959A, 1983A M39410: DB E41 208 - SDS, mfx, full sound (T22140 same roadnumber) T22142: DB E41 219 M43800: DB B4nzb-59 - 43058Stg() (T23407: 41237Stg ()) M43810: DB AB4nb-59 - 31229Stg (T23406: 32522Stg) M43820: DB BD4nf-59 - 96426Stg (T23405: 96385Stg) (*) different road number on katalog picture M39411: DB-AG 141 061-2 - SDS, mfx, full sound (T22141 same roadnumber) T22143: DB-AG 141 074-5 M43801: DB-AG B4rz 450.3 - 50 80 22 35966-7 (T23433: 50 80 22 35978-2) M43811: DB-AG AB4n 417.1 - 50 80 30 35112-7 (T23432: 50 80 31 54286-5) M43830: DB-AG Bnrdzf 463 - 50 80 82 34042-5 (T23431: Bndf 478 - 50 80 82 53911-7) M39189: DB 210 001-4 - SDS, mfx, full sound (T22222: 210 002-2) M39300: DB 230 001-0 - SDS, mfx, full sound M43958: DB "Bavaria" TEE car set (T23427) Avümz 111 - 61 80 19 70015-1 (T23427: Avmz 111 - 61 80 19 80025-8) Apümh 121 - 61 80 18 80105-9 (T23427: Apmz 121 - 61 80 18 70004-6) ARDümz 106 - 61 80 84 70201-7 (T23427: ARDmz 106 - 61 80 84 70202-5) M39421: SBB Re4/4-I 10023 - HLA, simple fx (T22353 same roadnumber) M36331: SBB Ee3/3 16367 - DC, mfx, no sound (T22335 same roadnumber) M43361: SBB A - 50 85 18 33037-0 (T23340: 50 85 18 33021-4) M43371: SBB B - 50 85 29 35595-4 (T23341: 50 85 29 35669-7) M43381: SBB B - 50 85 20 33044-2 (T23342: 50 85 20 33023-6) M43391: SBB WR - 50 85 88 33103-5 (T23343: 50 85 88 33100-1) M43401: SBB D - 50 85 92 33502-2 (T23343: 50 85 92 33521-1) M43430: SBB ABt - 50 85 38 33932-8 (T23340: 50 85 38 33933-6) And here just for completion some road numbers for specific models. M00770/1: DB AB3yg-54 - 37361Stg, B3yg-54 - 85950Stg M00770/2: DB B3yg-54 - 86626Stg, B3yg-54 - 86627Stg M00770/3: DB B3yg-54 - 86271Stg, BD3yg-54 - 99481Stg M26534: DB 38 1885 - DC, mfx, full sound M26544: SBB Re484 016-1 - DC, simple fx M29010: DB 01 1060 - SDS, mfx full sound (cars: A4üm-63 12059Esn, B4üm-63 19501Esn, 19505Esn) M29130: DB-AG Railion 185 156-7 - DC, simple fx M29151: DB 151 023-9 - HLA, mfx, no full sound M29160: DB 81 008 - DC, simple fx M29476: DB 218 424-0 - HLA, simple fx M29481: SBB Re 4/4-II 374-0 - HLA, simple fx (German/Swiss pantos) M29532: DB 86 130 - HLA, simple fx (with Telex) M36081: DB V80 005 - DC, simple fx (T22075 same roadumber) M36240: DB 24 016 - DC, simple fx M36420: DB-AG 232 658-5 - DC, simple fx (T22070 same roadnumber) M36421: DR 132 529-7 - DC, simple fx (T22071 same roadnumber) M36792: ÖBB 2016 25-5 - DC, simple fx (T22074 same roadnumber) M36826: DB-AG 323 541-3 - DC, mfx, no sound (T22139 same roadnumber) M36838: Veolia 185 CL002 - DC, simple fx (T22076 same roadnumber) M37033: SNCB Serie 64 - roadnumber not yet confirmed, DC, mfx, full sound (T22359 same model) M37054: DRG 59 004 - DC, mfx, full sound (Bellingrodt Edition) M37122: NS/ACTS 1251 - HLA, mfx, no full sound (T22149 same roadnumber) M37238: SNCB Serie 25.5 2551 - roadnumber not yet confirmed, DC, mfx, full sound (T22357 same model) M37253: DB Kittel Dt8 - DC, mfx, no sound (T22033 same road number), BD Karlsruhe, Bhf Freiburg M37421: NS ELD4 4221 "Koploper" - DC, mfx, no full sound (T22355 same roadnumber) M37539: DB-AG 120 123-5 - HLA, mfx, no full sound M37635: NS/ACTS MaK1206 7101 - DC, mfx, no sound M37636: CFL MaK1206 1502 - DC, mfx, no sound (T22360 same roadnumber) M37763: DB-AG VT 628-2 - 628 350-1, 928 350-8, HLA, mfx, no sound M37730: DB-AG 648.2 Lint - ABpd 648 752-6, Bpd 648 252-5 - DC, mfx, full sound (T22211 roadnumber yet tbd) M37735: DB-AG 648.2 Lint - ABpd 648 759-9, Bpd 648 259-0, DC, mfx, no sound M37670: DSB My1145 (Ep.V), My1103 (Ep.III) - HLA, mfx, full sound M37940: SJ T44 376 - roadnumber not yet confirmed, delivery planned for 2009, SDS, mfx, no sound (T22352 same model) M37848: DB 50 1035 - HLA, mfx, full sound M37887: SNCF 150 X 1518 - HLA, mfx, full sound, (T22147 same roadnumber) M37966: DRG 96 006 - HLA, mfx, full sound M39011: DRG 01 128 - SDS, mfx, full sound (T22028 same roadnumber) M39183: DB 218 26-6 - SDS, mfx, full sound (T22221 same roadnumber) M39343: DB-AG 152 005-5 - SDS, mfx, no full sound ("Patricia") M39501: DB 150 084-2 - SDS, mfx, no full sound (T22151 same roadnumber) M39640: DB 64 250 - SDS, mfx, full sound M39645: DB 64 278 - SDS, mfx, no sound M39641: ÖBB Rh 64 31´- SDS, mfx, full sound M39836: ÖBB Rh 1216 236-6 - SDS, mfx, full sound (delivery planned for 2009) M39892: Siemens/ÖBB ES 64 F4-006 - SDS, mfx, no full sound M39893: SBB Re 474 014-8 - SDS, mfx, no full sound M39894: SJ Hector-Rail 441 002-3 - SDS, mfx, no full sound M39191: DB 119 012-3 - SDS, mfx, no full sound T22348: ÖBB E18 42 T22606: DB 119 002-4 T22605: DRG E19 01 T22148: SBB Re 4/4-II 11250 TEE - (HLA, NEM) T22036: SJ G 1414 - (M37555 same roadnumber, new item 2007) Note: TRIX models are usually equipped with mtc-plug or 8-pin NEM socket. The following models are equipped with DCC/SX decoder and(optional) sound: T22053, 22070, 22071, 22074, 22076, 22139, 22140, 22141, 22147, 22149, 22180, 22181, 22203, 22213, 22214, 22222, 22307, 22352 Model railroading is fun! PS: Added some more models, motor and decoder type to the list (last updated 2008-11-22).


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RayF		#2 Posted : 28 January 2008 15:24:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,839 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Useful info. Thanks, Lutz
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mjrallare		#3 Posted : 28 January 2008 16:11:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 560		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich ... Model railroading is fun! That is indeed true! Thanks for the info Lutz. /Torbjörn


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bmcrae		#4 Posted : 28 January 2008 20:34:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 970 Location: Okanagan Valley, BC		Nice list Lutz. Vielen Danke!


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Goofy		#5 Posted : 28 January 2008 21:21:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,019		Ahummm,Lutz...! Trix dont have SDS motor anymore time,so it will been either 5 polig or clockanker motor from now and on...! There is some troubleshooting with SDS motor by using DCC digitalsystem... Goofy
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mike c		#6 Posted : 29 January 2008 03:56:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 7,898 Location: Montreal, QC		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br />As known, an increasing number of new items is offered by both, Märklin and TRIX, with different road numbers. M26544: SBB Re484 016-1 - DC, simple fx Lutz, According to the photo, this set will come with one SBB Apm (like 4368) in the Cisalpino livery, one Eurofima Bz (like 41896) in the same livery and a third coach, described as a Bpm SBB, but the model looks like the (false) 42163 rather than the Bpm EC (4369). Do you have more information about which coaches the set will come with, especially because the Bpm have been converted to domestic traffic and repainted in the ICN livery? The set should come with repainted EC material, either SBB or FS. Regards Mike C


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Goofy		#7 Posted : 29 January 2008 19:29:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,019		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy Trix dont have SDS motor anymore time,so it will been either 5 polig or clockanker motor from now and on...! No. TRIX still offers NEW models with SDS. Just take a look at the catalog or TRIX webpage. PS: My list was NOT intended to start (again) another discussion about the SDS; it should give this forum a better understanding of the product descriptions and the value of combined Märklin/TRIX offerings - especially with the various cars/sets. But,why is there no more symbol of SDS motor standing in the Trixcatalog...? Goofy
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Macfire		#8 Posted : 30 January 2008 03:23:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		Thanks Lutz. I for one like to have different running numbers for my rolling stock. I appreciate you efforts. Cheers Tony
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stephenbb		#9 Posted : 17 March 2008 00:27:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		thanks for the list Lutz
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steventrain		#10 Posted : 17 March 2008 10:10:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		I haven't read this topic before.[8)] Thanks for the information, Lutz.
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pa-pauls		#11 Posted : 19 March 2008 00:41:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,841 Location: Norway		Thank's Lutz Now I must order the rest of these wagons [:p] Edit : Got 02, 06 and 12 yesterday and just ordered the rest 9 models [:p]
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intruder		#12 Posted : 21 March 2008 19:30:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		Thanks for the good information, Lutz!
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TimR		#13 Posted : 14 May 2008 01:54:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Just have had a quick look at the Trix new items again; BR 120 (T22604) - first glance just like the Marklin version (37539) I thought, but then I look at the description to find that they are totally different toolings: 37539 is conventional Marklin e-lok layout - metal body, 5 pole motor, 2 axle powered. T22604 is metal frame, plastic body 5 pole motor with flywheel and all 4 axle powered.. similar layout to their TRAXX-2 and ICE-1. Interesting to see that Trix is apparantly moving away from sharing the tooling with Marklin and starts developing their own line independently. I like that they do 4-axle powered, but a bit put off with these new plastic body trend. Wouldn't customer feel that Trix is now not that different to say, Roco? (though I trust Trix would still be more durable, I suppose..) Maybe they don't want to be seen as DC version of Marklin? (which I actually thought is a good thing - and should be cheaper for both brands to share toolings from business perspective) Also interesting is the fact that new SDS models like the new E41, Re 4/4 I, etc... are advertised as having a "centrally mounted can motor". Hmmm... can't understand how Marklin is positioning Trix.. Luckily, I can say that I have no such concern with the selections that Marklin offers...
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mjrallare		#14 Posted : 08 October 2008 16:24:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 560		I ordered a couple of Trix-waggons because of the different road numbers. I just wanted to say that in some cases the destination signs doesn't have the same "city-names" on them. So you get a different road number but also different destination signs. I guess that this could be OK, since trains can have waggons that are heading towards different end stations. But personally, I'll rather have the same road number than different destination signs... Anyway, now you know... /Torbjörn


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pa-pauls		#15 Posted : 10 October 2008 22:29:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,841 Location: Norway		WOW - Thank's for all the work my friend [:I]
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pa-pauls		#16 Posted : 13 October 2008 17:50:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,841 Location: Norway		Hi Lutz After checking my wagon's 00770 I have noticed some different number's [B)] 01 - 37361 Stg / 85950 Stg - Same as your's 02 - 37583 Mü / 87309 Mü - You have 87583/87309 ! ? 03 - 37517 Hmb / 90414 Hmb - Same as your's 04 - 37418 Sbr / 88510 Stg - You have Sbr on both ! ? 05 - 86626 Stg / 86627 Stg - Same as your's 06 - 87317 Mü / 88240 Mü - You have 87317/88214 ! ? 07 - 89547 Hmb / 89548 Hmb - You have 89574/89548 ! ? 08 - 88449 Sbr / 88984 Sbr - Same as your's 09 - 86271 Stg / 99491 Stg - You have 86271/99481 ! ? 10 - 87324 Mü / 99301 Mü - Same as your's 11 - 85873 Hmb / 99607 Hmb - You have 85573/99607 ! ? 12 - 87863 Sbr / 99416 Sbr - Same as your's Could you please check this for me my friend Have you done some type mismatch maybe or is it really different number's out there
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mjrallare		#17 Posted : 15 October 2008 16:48:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 560		Well, I'm not Lutz Pål. But I do have the "Stuttgart-sets". My 09 reads the same as yours (86271 Stg / 99491 Stg). So I guess Lutz just made some typos. Not so strange. After all, he had to write quite many... /Torbjörn


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steventrain		#18 Posted : 22 November 2008 21:22:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		What is the running number on 00775?
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pa-pauls		#19 Posted : 22 November 2008 22:03:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,841 Location: Norway		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich Märklin set #0775 611 892 611 900 611 905 611 910 611 915 612 022 612 026 612 109 612 221 612 261 613 014 613 091 Here it is Steven
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steventrain		#20 Posted : 23 November 2008 10:05:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Thanks, Pal.
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Osterthun		#21 Posted : 27 November 2008 10:54:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2001(UTC) Posts: 111 Location: Netherlands		Does someone know the roadnumber of Trix 22054? (The 22053 is Bauart 1913, 96 025; T22703 = 96 020) Regards Frits
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Osterthun		#22 Posted : 27 November 2008 11:03:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2001(UTC) Posts: 111 Location: Netherlands		About Märklin 0775... here's my view: 613 105 Erz IIId 612 267 Erz IIId 612 513 Erz IIId 612 208 Erz IIId 611 999 Erz IIId 612 012 Erz IIId 612 052 Erz IIId 612 521 613 320 613 655 613 689 613 720 And to be complete with Trix 24202: 612 521 OOtz 613 320 OOtz 613 655 OOtz 613 689 OOtz 613 720 OOtz 613 105 OOtz – Erz IIId 612 267 OOtz – Erz IIId 612 513 OOtz – Erz IIId 612 208 OOtz – Erz IIId 611 999 OOtz – Erz IIId 612 052 OOtz – Erz IIId 612 521 OOtz – Erz IIId
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steventrain		#23 Posted : 28 November 2008 19:22:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Thanks Osterthun about on Erz IIId.
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pa-pauls		#24 Posted : 15 June 2009 22:48:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,841 Location: Norway		Steven, I have just checked my set and Osterhun's list of the set 00775 with wagen number's are the same as I have
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steventrain		#25 Posted : 15 June 2009 23:44:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by pa-pauls <br />Steven, I have just checked my set and Osterhun's list of the set 00775 with wagen number's are the same as I have Yes, He was right.
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