Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand
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Do the Trix Express (wagons) series run okay on Marklin tracks, especially K Tracks? Reason why I ask is that I am interested in some wagons but I found the following on Wikipedia: "Apart from the centre pick-up, the Trix Express system also retained the larger wheel flanges, customary in the 1930’s, right till the recent end, making derailments rather uncommon, but at the same time making their rolling stock incompatible with more modern two-rail NEM systems."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trix_ExpressYour thoughts would be appreciated. Regards Tony |
Lord Macca New Zealand branch of Clan Donald.
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Joined: 14/04/2006(UTC) Posts: 304 Location: Southern California
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Tony, I had a Trix Express starter set in early sixties, and the rolling stock didn't go well in Marklin (M-track) which I got later on. The wheel flanges were thicker what Märklin used, and the wagons derailed in switches. Trix detailing was very good, maybe better than Märklin's 4600 series. I still have the tracks with stamped cardboard ties, but used the other suff for various projects. Maybe you can replace or modify the wheels and change the couplings.
BR, Juha
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The old Trix stuff doesn't work well here either, I set up my old TrixExpress set a couple of weeks ago after about 30 years of not running ,which my grandpa gave to me after taking down his layout ,and it worked. |
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Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand
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Thanks for the replies.
I am looking at the Express "Internationale Luxuszüge" 3339* range. |
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Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616
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Hi Tony,
I bought a couple of hopper cars with TRIX express wheels recently.The wheel flanges are too thick and too high for Märklin rail profiles and the cars derail on both K-track and C-track turnouts.
Rail profile hight for C-track is 2,3 mm K-track is 2,5 mm Trix Exp 2,9 mm
Kind regards Guus |
Kind regards, Guus |
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Joined: 02/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,448 Location: Italy
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I saw a big Trix express layout at the Stuttgart fair the last week. And and become curious have searched some info in internet. This is a good site to explore and where more questions could have an answer. http://www.trixexpress.de/ |
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Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand
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Thanks for the info guys. I have some old Marklin 40** coaches at home, I'll use those wheelsets for conversion. The 700150 wheelset appears to be the correct conversion so I wll have a play.
Regards Tony |
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Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,692 Location: United Kingdom
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Very nice picture, Thanks for the link.
My friend have some British trix in the 1950s. |
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Tony,
I operate both TRIX Express and Maerklin layouts. TRIX Express coaches and wagons will not run on any Marklin track because their flanges are too large. TRIX Express track has a profile height of 3.3 mm, the old TRIX International 2-rail track had a profile height of 2.7 mm. Maerklin C-track is 2.1 mm and K- and M-track are also around 2.1 or 2.3 mm profile heights thus are too low for TRIX Express wheel sets. You can always replace the wheels!! You will need to check the axles however. I can help you with TRIX Express stuff, I have had it since I was 3 years old!!
You can also find TRIX Express 3-rail track for sale on E-bay and you can run any manufacturer's locomotives and rolling stock on this track. You can even run Maerklin on "one side" and TRIX Express DC on the "other side" as all three rails are isolated from each other. If you can find the TRIX Express nickel-silver "super" track it is more resilient than the older fibre based track. However, the best turn-outs to use are the British TRIX 3-rail fibre Universal ones!!
With the purchase of TRIX by Maerklin it is unlikely that the Express line will ever be resurrected. It was poor management both by German and British TRIX that caused its eventual demise. Also, for its time it was always very highly priced!!
Regards (a Scot in Wisconsin)
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Regards (a Scot in Wisconsin),
Maurice [ETE, TTRCA, IG-TRIX Express, Maerklin-Insider & TRIX Profi-Club]
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Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand
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Thanks Maurice, Looking at both Express & DC cars, I figure I swap wheels over from my 402* cars initially and then order some 700150 wheel sets.
Leah (FD) likes the CIWL Blue "Internationale Luxuszüge" so I am trying to get some in time for Christmas to surprise her.
Regards Tony |
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Hi Tony,
Glad that swapping the wheel sets will work out. Those are nice coaches to run on your layout.
Regards (a Scot in Wisconsin) |
Regards (a Scot in Wisconsin),
Maurice [ETE, TTRCA, IG-TRIX Express, Maerklin-Insider & TRIX Profi-Club]
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Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Macfire <br />Thanks Maurice, Looking at both Express & DC cars, I figure I swap wheels over from my 402* cars initially and then order some 700150 wheel sets.
Leah (FD) likes the CWIL Blue "Internationale Luxuszüge" so I am trying to get some in time for Christmas to surprise her.
Regards Tony
I can see some good Brownie Points coming up. Hope they get there in time. N |
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around |
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Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Hope they get there in time. N
Hope so Nev, Keep getting outbid and due work (of course) the timing is wrong for me to watch an auction. Guess I'll have to up my limit .... |
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Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand
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Got 'em....  And they are AC..   Trix 43995 WL Schlafwagen 1000AC. Blue. CIWL  Trix 43996 WR Speisewagen 1687 AC. Blue. CIWL  Trix 43997 F Gepäckwagen 1205 AC. Blue. CIWL Scored these this morning on eBay. The pictures are from the seller's description. And I have also been a wee bit naughty, Check out: https://www.marklin-user...s&t=3215&whichpage=2 |
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Joined: 23/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,497 Location: Denmark
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Congratulations Tony.
Beautiful detailed wagons. Brownie Points in the basket. |
Regards, Benny - Outsider and MFDWPL  |
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Hi Tony,
Wonderful models. A great find since they were produced by TRIX specifically for Maerklin. The 4- designation tells you they were for AC track operation. If you see models with 2-, and or 3- before the final four digits they are for the TRIX 2-rail and 3-rail DC systems. These coaches were produced after 1986 when TRIX started some limited models for use with the "punktkontakt" (stud) track Maerklin system.
Happy Holidays (a Scot in Wisconsin).
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Regards (a Scot in Wisconsin),
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Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616
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Great models Tony,congratulations!
Kind regards Guus |
Kind regards, Guus |
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Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD
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No wonder you scored more. Whith Coaches Like that there would be heaps of Brownie Points. Nev |
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around |
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Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,692 Location: United Kingdom
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Congratulations, Macfire.  Very finely details![:p] |
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Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand
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Leah is very, very happy with these. Made a nice wee addition to her Christmas Prezzies.
Next question is:
What would be the best (Steam) Loco for these wagons? |
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Joined: 06/04/2006(UTC) Posts: 655
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Tony,
For these wagons you can use a Bavarian S3/6 steam locomotive or a BR 18.5.
Happy New Year and Regards (a Scot in Wisconsin),
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Regards (a Scot in Wisconsin),
Maurice [ETE, TTRCA, IG-TRIX Express, Maerklin-Insider & TRIX Profi-Club]
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Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand
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Cool, thought that it may have been a S3/6 but wasn't sure. Thanks Maurice
I'll have a wee dram for you (and Dave and what the hell - all forum members...) |
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand
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Great looking cars, Tony. Leah (and yourself) is very lucky. Have as many drams as you like.....(if you're not on duty).
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Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand
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On Duty - damn it. But come my 4 days off - Waikite Valley here we come...and some liquid refreshment of course... |
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Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,692 Location: United Kingdom
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Macfire <br />
Next question is:
What would be the best (Steam) Loco for these wagons?
It would be a class 18.4 or any steam with tender in Ep 1 or 2. |
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When shall Trix or and Brawa start producing "Kaiser" trainsets again...? What about "Rolaty" trainsets too...? I miss them on my soon super-advanced modelrailway...!!! Goofy [V]  |
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Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand
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It would be a class 18.4 or any steam with tender in Ep 1 or 2.
Cheers Steven, I'm going to chase a 33181 S3/6
Regards Tony |
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Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,
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Tony, My congratulations! I've lately lost an auction for these coaches... And for some reason I do recognize the pictures too...  |
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