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GSRR		#1 Posted : 05 January 2010 21:27:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,339 Location: USA		Just a general query as to how many people may be thinking of going to The Big E train show? The ETE-ENE chapter will be sponsoring Euro East 2010 at the show. Regards, Thomas http://www.ete-ene.org/ http://www.railroadhobbyshow.com/abouttheshow.asp
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Bigdaddynz		#2 Posted : 06 January 2010 01:38:43(UTC) Retweet
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mnosal		#3 Posted : 06 January 2010 02:33:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 07/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 72 Location: ,		That's super news. I was planning on going again this year. ETE folk usually have a nice setup, so this should mean an even better display this year.
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jonquinn		#4 Posted : 06 January 2010 03:32:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		too far away for me, especially this time of year. I have never been to Massachusettes yet. I think maybe the regional chapters need to start holding their own meets, possibly joining with another nearby regional chapter and then picking a reasonably centralized location to hold the event.
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rschaffr		#5 Posted : 06 January 2010 04:39:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,180 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		Depends on when my Granddaughter's birthday party is. If it is not that weekend, I will probably be there.
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sudibarba		#6 Posted : 06 January 2010 04:47:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/07/2006(UTC) Posts: 880 Location: Augusta, GA USA		I'll be there. I'll see if I can talk Dale Schultz into going. Eric
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steventrain		#7 Posted : 06 January 2010 15:25:26(UTC) Retweet
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obxbill		#8 Posted : 07 January 2010 00:29:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,300 Location: manteo, nc		I'd go if it was a little farther south. New England is just too much of a drive. Especially this time of year. If it ever gets a bit more down the coast, I'd love to join in. Bill
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EuroKev		#9 Posted : 10 January 2010 18:39:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/01/2010(UTC) Posts: 63 Location: Pennsylvania,USA		Hey everyone new to the forum...i think i might got to this event. I did go to the springfield show many times years ago. I am guessing this is the same event with ETE there also?..I dont remember a big euro enthusiast presence..but it was and is a really big show.thanks Kev
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rbw993		#10 Posted : 10 January 2010 19:07:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 956		I am thinking of it. I haven't been in years. Roger
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GSRR		#11 Posted : 10 January 2010 19:19:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,339 Location: USA		Bigdaddynz wrote: Would if I could Thomas! Make sure you take lots of photos for those of us in far flung places of the earth. David, certainly will take some pictures and post. I may try the video / youtube thing, but may need some help with that. Regards, Thomas
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GSRR		#12 Posted : 10 January 2010 19:26:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,339 Location: USA		obxbill wrote: I'd go if it was a little farther south. New England is just too much of a drive. Especially this time of year. If it ever gets a bit more down the coast, I'd love to join in. Bill It's always a challenge here in the states. I went to the NMRA show in New Haven this summer. The Marklin / European presence was anemic at best. Never been to the MEA meet down in Pennsylvania, maybe the only thing closer to you? I think the advantage of being at The Big E is that it is such a big show you get a lot of traffic passing by the club layout and generate some interest hopefully amongst some newcomers. Regards, Thomas
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steventrain		#13 Posted : 10 January 2010 23:40:11(UTC) Retweet
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EuroKev		#14 Posted : 11 January 2010 02:53:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/01/2010(UTC) Posts: 63 Location: Pennsylvania,USA		steventrain wrote: Hi and welcome to the forum, Kev. Thanks Steven. I am glad i found this forum.I feel that I will learn a great deal from you people Kev
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obxbill		#15 Posted : 11 January 2010 03:11:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,300 Location: manteo, nc		GSRR wrote: obxbill wrote: I'd go if it was a little farther south. New England is just too much of a drive. Especially this time of year. If it ever gets a bit more down the coast, I'd love to join in. Bill It's always a challenge here in the states. I went to the NMRA show in New Haven this summer. The Marklin / European presence was anemic at best. Never been to the MEA meet down in Pennsylvania, maybe the only thing closer to you? I think the advantage of being at The Big E is that it is such a big show you get a lot of traffic passing by the club layout and generate some interest hopefully amongst some newcomers. Regards, Thomas What is the MEA meet? And welcome to the group, Kev! Bill
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GSRR		#16 Posted : 11 January 2010 04:06:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,339 Location: USA		What is the MEA meet? And welcome to the group, Kev! Bill Welcome to the group Kev. Bill, have a look here. http://www.modellbahn.com/marklin_clubs.html Regards, Thomas
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plavnostruev		#17 Posted : 14 January 2010 05:25:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 756 Location: New Jersey, USA		I always wanted to attend Euro East show, if not as a dealer, then at least to meet with ETE folks and check out their displays. Even though this show is right before start of Nurnberg Toy Fair, the stars seemed to have aligned favorably to come and bring some of that Marklin, Roco, Fleischmann, Piko, Schuco (and what not) gear. I will also present our new EMTZ Z line of vehicles and structures. So, New England, get ready, you ain't seen nothing yet! Michael
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Chris6382chris		#18 Posted : 14 January 2010 21:09:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/11/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,215 Location: Middle of the US		Would you say it is a show worth visiting if I live in California. I do attend the Eurowest shows here in CA and enjoy them. Is there alot of European stuff at this show as well? Chris
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rschaffr		#19 Posted : 14 January 2010 21:34:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,180 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		Remains to be seen. The old ones that were in Marietta PA were amateurish and somewhat trivial compared to some of the US shows I have been to. The attempt in 2009 of combining it with the show in Syracuse was all but invisible (I was there). I do have high hopes for this one though and will make an effort to be there. Depends on how long my commitment on Saturday is, we may drive part way up to Connecticut on Saturday night and be there for Sunday. I won't know really until that day, however. If anyone will be there Sunday why not arrange a meeting spot (perhaps Mike's booth?) and time. I will endeavor to join you.
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verheyen		#20 Posted : 15 January 2010 00:28:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 639 Location: ,		Sorry I missed you. Was there with my n-scale modules. p. rschaffr wrote: Remains to be seen. The old ones that were in Marietta PA were amateurish and somewhat trivial compared to some of the US shows I have been to. The attempt in 2009 of combining it with the show in Syracuse was all but invisible (I was there). I do have high hopes for this one though and will make an effort to be there. Depends on how long my commitment on Saturday is, we may drive part way up to Connecticut on Saturday night and be there for Sunday. I won't know really until that day, however. If anyone will be there Sunday why not arrange a meeting spot (perhaps Mike's booth?) and time. I will endeavor to join you.
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jonquinn		#21 Posted : 15 January 2010 02:34:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		wow - first post I have seen by Peter Verheyen in a long time. so how was the show, at least as far as euro trains go? was it worth the long trek for anyone? I still miss the Marietta PA shows, even 'though they were small in size/scope, they were the only euro theme train shows I've heard of in the USA. Not as massive as some of the Greenburg and other traveling shows they used(?) to have, but was OK for me - in those sometimes you get "lucky" and find some hugely overpriced marklin or other european trains (not counting LGB). From the ETE website it looked like the EuroWest has been much better organized and attended (especially by vendors) than any of the Marietta shows were.
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verheyen		#22 Posted : 15 January 2010 03:23:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 639 Location: ,		It was ok. I left ETE (won't go into details), but exhibited independently in the "Euro-East" area. I had my four modules, the Chapter, minus another member had the remaining modules set up as another layout, then a few sales tables - mostly sad like many of those at other EE shows with one real (and great vendor). Publicity was non-existent save one or two postings to other forums so very few Euros up for the show. Did meet and chat with Grant Markley and his wife - they're quite nice. Total of 6200 for the show, good central location with a lot of folks walking by. I was rather busy and the kids loved my n-scale modules as I had them set up on regular tables - great height for viewing with no stools or ropes. All were very well behaved. Also some good interactions with people interested in my scratch-built card structures. Videos and pictures on my website/blog at http://papphausen.blogsp...11/trains-in-motion.html. Was it worth it for a die hard Euro, probably not unless you enjoy viewing model railroads in general. I think being with non-euros was great and showed the breadth of the hobby. While a solo, Euro only show is a nice idea, the critical mass will never be there on the East Coast. Could it have attracted more Euros with better PR? Maybe, but the offerings need to be much better. More good layouts and real vendors. Was invited to go to the Amherst show by the ENE folks but the timing didn't work out. Amherst is a MUCH bigger show and they have a great layout. I hope the other Euro-trappings work out for them too and they are successful. Back to lurking (occasionally) p. jonquinn wrote: wow - first post I have seen by Peter Verheyen in a long time. so how was the show, at least as far as euro trains go? was it worth the long trek for anyone? I still miss the Marietta PA shows, even 'though they were small in size/scope, they were the only euro theme train shows I've heard of in the USA. Not as massive as some of the Greenburg and other traveling shows they used(?) to have, but was OK for me - in those sometimes you get "lucky" and find some hugely overpriced marklin or other european trains (not counting LGB). From the ETE website it looked like the EuroWest has been much better organized and attended (especially by vendors) than any of the Marietta shows were.
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mmervine		#23 Posted : 15 January 2010 15:01:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,884 Location: Keene, NH		For those planning to attend, this is one of the biggest train shows in the US. We will only be a small portion of the show. As far as I know this is what we will have: 2 or3 Euro layouts 3 or 4 Marklin dealers (including Mike!) 3 Clinics There should also be a few dealers with ESU decoders and ECOS systems. There will also be dinner (e-mail Barry if you want to attend) at a German Themed restaurant Staurday evening (and maybe Friday as well). Chance to meet and talk with some other Marklin/Euro enthisiasts. We know this is not as good as having a dedicated show, but it is better than not having it at all.
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rschaffr		#24 Posted : 15 January 2010 16:23:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,180 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		Peter: Great to hear from you! I am disappointed that I did not see your layout at Syracuse. Cheryl and I walked both halls twice looking for a "Euro East Section" and found no evidence of it. I was particularly looking for Euro layouts and I saw none. Where were you? The only Euro-centric thing I found was one vendor from whom I bought some stuff. It was not a wasted trip, since I do attend many non-euro shows (and belong to NMRA which has literally no Euro interest), but I would have loved to have seen more Euro there. I am going to do my best to get to Springfield because this concept will only survive if we support it (the same reason I kept going back to Marietta and why I always try to attend the anemic MEA swap meets). Hope to see you there.
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verheyen		#25 Posted : 15 January 2010 21:49:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 639 Location: ,		Ron, the area was bedecked with various Euroflags in the Center of Progress building (the main one that didn't smell of cow...). If you came in the main entrance and walked straight (without turning) past the garden scale thing on the floor we were behind the blue curtain - open on all 3 other sides... Floorplan at http://www.cnynrhs.org/Train_Fair/COP-2009.pdf. There are also snippets in the slideshow at http://www.cnynrhs.org/Train_Fair/train_fair.html- lots of images, but you'd pick it out. The picture below is part of that slideshow and shows me... Yes, it was very dull from the ETE group. Most of those selling were on walk about and not with their wares or otherwise talking to themselves. I had lots of fun with the kids and others though and it was not dead for me 85% of the time. Click on image below for a larger view... rschaffr wrote: Peter: Great to hear from you! I am disappointed that I did not see your layout at Syracuse. Cheryl and I walked both halls twice looking for a "Euro East Section" and found no evidence of it. I was particularly looking for Euro layouts and I saw none. Where were you? The only Euro-centric thing I found was one vendor from whom I bought some stuff. It was not a wasted trip, since I do attend many non-euro shows (and belong to NMRA which has literally no Euro interest), but I would have loved to have seen more Euro there. I am going to do my best to get to Springfield because this concept will only survive if we support it (the same reason I kept going back to Marietta and why I always try to attend the anemic MEA swap meets). Hope to see you there.
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ttenordave		#26 Posted : 25 January 2010 22:41:57(UTC) Retweet
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rschaffr		#27 Posted : 26 January 2010 21:57:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,180 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		Anyone else going on Sunday? I would say that I have an 80% probability of making it on Sunday. I will check in with Mike when I get there to see if anyone else is around.
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smoke006		#28 Posted : 27 January 2010 05:46:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 24 Location: spotswood, newjersey		jonquinn wrote: too far away for me, especially this time of year. I have never been to Massachusettes yet. I think maybe the regional chapters need to start holding their own meets, possibly joining with another nearby regional chapter and then picking a reasonably centralized location to hold the event. I agree, Perhaps looking into a centralize location will allow a reasonbile response to attend the Meeting.
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EuroKev		#29 Posted : 31 January 2010 07:26:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/01/2010(UTC) Posts: 63 Location: Pennsylvania,USA		I was planning on going to this meet, but it is just too far for me to enjoy.A possible 6 hour drive each way is no fun so I hope there might be a meet in my general area again soon (missed out on the marietta meets in the past).thanks Kev
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rbw993		#30 Posted : 31 January 2010 16:00:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 956		I made the trip to the Amherst Show and stopped by the EuroEast layout. I joined ETE and am looking forward to meeting the folks in my area. Also met Mike of Euro Model Trains and bought a few cars. This was the biggest train show I have ever been to. I don't remember how many layouts I looked at. One of the nicest was an On30 tidewater type layout out of Rhode Island. The layout was around five feet above the florr and you could walk up to and through it so you could really enjoy the scenery and trains. They kept trains moving which is nice. Nothing worse than a huge modular layout with one train running. No pictures, sorry. Roger
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rschaffr		#31 Posted: : 31 January 2010 17:26:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,180 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		We couldn't make it this year. I was planning to go but circumstances prevented it. Maybe next time.
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Ranjit		#32 Posted : 31 January 2010 18:00:45(UTC) Retweet
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sudibarba		#33 Posted : 01 February 2010 04:13:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/07/2006(UTC) Posts: 880 Location: Augusta, GA USA		I went today and spent about 4 hours there. Walthers had a display but very little Marklin - what a surprise. ESU had a table there with 2 people. Played with the Lok programmer - I think I'll get one. Aside from some light bases the only thing I bought was a ladle car - one of the two part set from a couple of years ago. Not that much Marklin there, but I did see some good deals - I passed considering what I have on order and that I will have to order the new three part F7. Eric
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plavnostruev		#34 Posted : 01 February 2010 22:28:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 756 Location: New Jersey, USA		Well, this has been by far the largest Train Hobby show in the US that I have been a part of (or ever attended). 4 buildings full of many excellent (and huge) displays in all gauges and themes, and a large number of vendors and manufacturers. They expanded available space this year and over 21,000 people were through the door. Words "model train hobby" and "expanded" rarely go hand in hand nowadays, so it was very refreshing to see such great interest. Way to go, New England! Euro East 2010 hosted by New England chapter of ETE naturally was an oasis for fans of European trains. They had rather large presence with superb Marklin layout and several auxiliary displays for kids and adults alike. There was a huge projection screen showing movies of European prototypes and they also did several presentations to the public. All I can say is: great job promoting this hobby, well done! I also wanted to thank all of ETE folks for accommodating and supporting us at the show. And we were gratified to meet so many Marklin fans from all parts of the area. Below pictures are of ETE Marklin layout; for most of the weekend it was jam-packed with people admiring the layout. Michael
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mmervine		#35 Posted : 01 February 2010 22:33:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,884 Location: Keene, NH		Mike-it was a pleasure to meet you. Thanks for coming to the show! Safe travels to Germany this week!!!
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EuroKev		#36 Posted : 02 February 2010 02:19:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/01/2010(UTC) Posts: 63 Location: Pennsylvania,USA		Hey thanks for posting the pics.I wish I could have made the trip there. Maybee next year
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ttenordave		#37 Posted : 02 February 2010 18:46:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 29 Location: Groton, CT		The show was great and for a change I was able to concentrate on the Euro stuff and not allow myself to get overwhelmed by the quantity and variety that is present elsewhere at this major train event. The ETE layout was absolutely wonderful in every way and was attracting lots of attention with a lot of children included which was encouraging. Meeting Mike was especially helpful as I need an enthusiastic, knowledgeable vendor to get me going beyond my starter set layout mentality at present. Dave R
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Ian555		#38 Posted : 02 February 2010 20:37:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,241 Location: Scotland		Hi all, Great pictures,thanks for sharing. Ian.
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steventrain		#39 Posted : 02 February 2010 21:30:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,610 Location: United Kingdom		Excellent pics, Mike.
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GSRR		#40 Posted : 02 February 2010 23:23:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,339 Location: USA		Here are some pictures I took of the ETE - ENE club layout. Regards, Thomas .. ..
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jhpstern		#41 Posted : 03 February 2010 00:39:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/04/2009(UTC) Posts: 15 Location: Belmont, NC		Michael & Thomas, Thanks for the great pictures. I attended a few shows here in NC but the shows were small and virtually no European trains, building, etc. Great pictures, makes me feel like I was there.
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sudibarba		#42 Posted : 03 February 2010 05:14:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/07/2006(UTC) Posts: 880 Location: Augusta, GA USA		GSRR wrote: Here are some pictures I took of the ETE - ENE club layout. Regards, Thomas .. Great photos. I was there and your pictures look better than I remember. That is probably due to the huge crowds interferring with looking. Model railroading might be dead but you could not tell it from the crowds and the conversations I over heard. Eric ..
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rcorreia		#43 Posted : 03 February 2010 12:27:06(UTC) Retweet
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