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SierraDelta		#1 Posted : 24 February 2009 15:05:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 126 Location: Brussels, Belgium		According to posts at Stummi-forum, the following 2009 News items will not be produced: 29011, 29019, 29150, 29477, 29482, 29610, 55038 and 55039 This is still to be confirmed, but given the source as described on the forum, it seems to be credible.
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RayF		#2 Posted : 24 February 2009 15:12:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,873 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Very possible. Why would they need so many starter sets? Taking away the six mentioned still leaves 5 sets, which is more than enough. Shame about the Swiss one, though. It looked really nice. Ray
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MarioFabro		#3 Posted : 24 February 2009 15:16:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/10/2001(UTC) Posts: 793 Location: Pittsburgh,		I was considering the 29019 and 29482 also.. I though they were good value for the money. Especially the first one, had a Re 4/4 IV with mfx and sound.. something new.
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PeterG		#4 Posted : 24 February 2009 15:20:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/07/2008(UTC) Posts: 156 Location: Sydney,		Yes, its a real shame about the 29019. I was looking forward to it. Its only a minor setback however, since there are plenty of other sets with the MS2 to chose from.
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steventrain		#5 Posted : 24 February 2009 15:34:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,723 Location: United Kingdom		Thanks for the report, I haven't order it as well.
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alonso231gery		#6 Posted : 24 February 2009 15:45:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,959 Location: Hellas (Athens)		I was about to order the 29019, pitty...
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mjrallare		#7 Posted : 24 February 2009 16:20:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 563		I guess they found it impossible to produce enough MS2s (this year) for all these new starter-sets... /Torbjörn
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vilithejou		#8 Posted : 24 February 2009 16:29:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 850 Location: Vic, Barcelona		Some shops confirm it :-( http://www.modellbahn-west.de/
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atilla		#9 Posted : 24 February 2009 16:55:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/11/2008(UTC) Posts: 381 Location: Richmond, Virginia		Well, it is just a rumor. Why not use the old stock market motto, "Buy on the rumor, sell on the news!"
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jeehring		#10 Posted : 24 February 2009 17:28:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		It's a pity for the Swiss 29019 ! well, it seems that all startset with MS2 should be cancelled ! Some problems to produce the MS2 ? Only one startset remains with MS2 : the big one ( 3 loks )Is it because its delivery was planned later ?
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Davy		#11 Posted : 24 February 2009 17:48:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		If they can not produce the MS2. It is a further mfx disaster and it will probarly means the doom of Marklin. [xx(]
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rmsailor		#12 Posted : 24 February 2009 18:32:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 571 Location: Kirkcaldy, Fife		I would suspect that most new developments are in a state of suspended animation until the future of Marklin becomes clearer. It is unlikely that any capital expenditure would be autherised by the liquidators unless there was a chance of a return on the money invested. Bob M.
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mjrallare		#13 Posted : 24 February 2009 18:58:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 563		If it proves impossible to reconstruct Märklin we wouldn't have seen these start-sets at all. But if Mr Pluta is successful, we'll see plenty of startsets in 2010 instead. I understand that those who were planning a purchase are disappointed, but it could have been worse... /Torbjörn
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Goofy		#14 Posted : 24 February 2009 19:02:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,320		I´m not surpriced about that...! Because the prices of startsets... [xx(] Too expensive...! And perhaps not yet to producing MS2. Goofy
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MarioFabro		#15 Posted : 24 February 2009 19:09:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/10/2001(UTC) Posts: 793 Location: Pittsburgh,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />.. Too expensive...! No way! With 29019 you were getting two full mfx locos (with sound and all), four rollende landstrasse cars, four freight cars, two MS2, transformer and track for 549 Euros: only 100 Euros more than the 37320 two loco package and only one with sound. I thought it was a great bargain price.. maybe too good to be true. It may be the reason that they will not produce them: margins too little on these sets.
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Goofy		#16 Posted : 24 February 2009 19:21:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,320		It´s still anyway expensive for customer...! In Sweden it´s happens sometimes that hobbystore are selling products from startsets in pieces. Goofy
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jeehring		#17 Posted : 24 February 2009 19:31:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Davy <br />If they can not produce the MS2. It is a further mfx disaster and it will probarly means the doom of Marklin. [xx(] I think so . All which is destroying their brand image & destroying what makes Marklin unique , should be a disaster . The partnership with ESU was something poisonnous & sour mainly because ESU didn't care about Marklin 's specificity and help to introduce the process they use to developp for the DCC world .For a decoder manufacturer a grilled decoder means to replace a cheap electronic piece.In DCC world you may have 10/15% faulty decoders , they just give you another one. For Marklin , a faulty decoder means you have to bring back a whole model and they have to replace ( or repair) a whole Locomotive . That's why there were not such problems with Marklin-digital decoders (6090, 609xx ) : strong, simple, good design...etc...etc..(Marklin minded) That's the reason why a company like Marklin cannot work with the same standards as a simple decoder manufacturer.That's the reason - I think - why you may find some cheap DCC decoders too...
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Frostie		#18 Posted : 24 February 2009 19:32:32(UTC) Retweet
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MarioFabro		#19 Posted : 24 February 2009 20:01:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/10/2001(UTC) Posts: 793 Location: Pittsburgh,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring [br... That's why there were not such problems with Marklin-digital decoders (6090, 609xx ) : strong, simple, good design...etc...etc..(Marklin minded) That's the reason why a company like Marklin cannot work with the same standards as a simple decoder manufacturer.That's the reason - I think - why you may find some cheap DCC decoders too... One wonders why don't they equipp the Marklin locos with the 8 pin or 21 pin connectors? it would be very simple to switch the faulty decoder then...
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Minibahn		#20 Posted : 24 February 2009 20:45:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/05/2004(UTC) Posts: 137 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mjrallare <br />I guess they found it impossible to produce enough MS2s (this year) for all these new starter-sets... /Torbjörn Hello, they have not the money to pay all the MS2. The MS2 is coming in the Premium H0 Set. Kontron is not only producing the CS2 : http://www.industrial-embedded.com/news/db/?14503
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Goofy		#21 Posted : 24 February 2009 21:17:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,320		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mjrallare <br />I guess they found it impossible to produce enough MS2s (this year) for all these new starter-sets... /Torbjörn Why not producing only MS2 instead...? Not to placement MS2 in the startset...! [xx(] Goofy
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steventrain		#22 Posted : 24 February 2009 22:26:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,723 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Frostie <br />No Looney Tunes Set !!! Boo Hoo !!!!! Yeah, Many chilren getting loud crying.
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TimR		#23 Posted : 24 February 2009 23:38:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		I was keen on 29482. But if this is the case, I guess I better go off and get the 29481 instead. Can always go for an MS2 starter set next year, but the Re 421 is important for me.
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TimR		#24 Posted : 24 February 2009 23:41:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Frostie <br />No Looney Tunes Set !!! Boo Hoo !!!!! Yeah, Many chilren getting loud crying. I second that. This the one item that my wife actually encouraged me to buy!!
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laalves		#25 Posted : 25 February 2009 13:55:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,162 Location: Portugal		My dealer has just received an email from Märklin stating that more new 2009 items than those listed here will be cancelled. Details to come. Hopefully not the BR23 or BR39...
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mjrallare		#26 Posted : 25 February 2009 15:59:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 563		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves <br />My dealer has just received an email from Märklin stating that more new 2009 items than those listed here will be cancelled. Details to come. Hopefully not the BR23 or BR39... That was bad news indeed... [B)]
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jeehring		#27 Posted : 25 February 2009 16:07:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Very sad. Hope nothing from Marklin-digital will be cancelled , those CS2 and MS2 look so promising !( do like the concept with card reader too) And we need more developpment !
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MarioFabro		#28 Posted : 25 February 2009 18:12:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/10/2001(UTC) Posts: 793 Location: Pittsburgh,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves <br />My dealer has just received an email from Märklin stating that more new 2009 items than those listed here will be cancelled. Details to come. Hopefully not the BR23 or BR39... Keep us updated.. hope my order for 37320 and 37321 stands..
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steventrain		#29 Posted : 25 February 2009 19:44:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,723 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves <br /> Hopefully not the BR23 or BR39... Both are on my already order.
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mike c		#30 Posted : 25 February 2009 19:50:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,271 Location: Montreal, QC		One quick question pertaining to this thread about cancelled or delayed production. As Maerklin Hungary and the plant in Gyoer is not entirely covered by the bankruptcy, what control does Herr Pluta and his management have over this plant and the significant amount of production coming from Hungary? It also makes sense that some projects in development will be shelved in order to reduce the amount of expenditures, as the company is likely to focus on activities that bring a rapid influx of capital rather than long term investments. If anybody is interested in the 29482 Set with the Re 421, they can always opt for the currently available 29481 or the lok itself from eBay or some dealers in CH. Regards Mike C
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5HorizonsRR		#31 Posted : 25 February 2009 19:50:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 3,007 Location: CA, USA		Guys, While disappointing I have to point out some good new in this: 1: While a bargain for collectors, what little kid gets a $600 start set? I'm sure 80% or more of end users for the big sets were collectors not children.A bummer for us, but I'm sure these sets weren't very profitable compared to selling individual compenents. 2: Looney Tunes set is a bummer, but that probably saved a large licensing fee. 3: Same with new controls. I see this as a sign of proper management- finally. Do we really need 500 new items every year? No, not at all. of course we like the selection and variety but it is too much for the manufacturer. If they don't have enough orders they shouldn't make it. If you look at a catalogue from the 60's or 70's its maybe a dozen or so things new each year. This is easy to manufacture and for us with limited budget it is easier to keep up with our wish lists. The flip side is they need to produce all of this or they will loose market share, but I think if they do a few cool new pieces each year along with some repaints (which require minimal investment for M.)it is fine by me- as long as a few of therm are Swiss
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TimR		#32 Posted : 25 February 2009 22:50:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by 5HorizonsRR <br />Guys, While disappointing I have to point out some good new in this: 1: While a bargain for collectors, what little kid gets a $600 start set? I'm sure 80% or more of end users for the big sets were collectors not children.A bummer for us, but I'm sure these sets weren't very profitable compared to selling individual compenents. 2: Looney Tunes set is a bummer, but that probably saved a large licensing fee. 3: Same with new controls. I see this as a sign of proper management- finally. Do we really need 500 new items every year? No, not at all. of course we like the selection and variety but it is too much for the manufacturer. If they don't have enough orders they shouldn't make it. If you look at a catalogue from the 60's or 70's its maybe a dozen or so things new each year. This is easy to manufacture and for us with limited budget it is easier to keep up with our wish lists. The flip side is they need to produce all of this or they will loose market share, but I think if they do a few cool new pieces each year along with some repaints (which require minimal investment for M.)it is fine by me- as long as a few of therm are Swiss Precisely what I felt for a while now.. I think they should cut down on the number of “one time serries” limited production offering. It doesn’t really work after a while. If a customer is not buying them now, doesn’t mean that he/she won’t buy them later – in second hand market where Marklin made no profit and speculators gained to cash thanks to the “one time serries” special. Other people just going to sit tight and wait until the model become available in the standard programme item – which is of course, unavoidable since the toolings and/or colour scheme will have to be re-used anyway. For controllers – I also wondered why Marklin would introduce CS2 and MS2 so early. Don’t get wrong, I think they are great. But the older CS and MS have only been around for a few years, and unlike PC users, most won’t buy one too many new controllers every few years. And why can’t they get a rebadged / slightly modified ECOs or any other controller anyway to save production cost? I mean, is there any other MRR manufacturer that produce such comprehensive system as Marklin does? Maybe herein one of the problems. Now the funny thing is they have discontinued most of the 2008 starter sets in expectation of these (almost certainly) cancelled sets. What are they going offer now for 2009 to replace them? Marklin really can't not having any starter set available, especially for new customers.
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mike c		#33 Posted : 26 February 2009 02:54:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,271 Location: Montreal, QC		Regarding the CS2 and MS2 issue. The answer is very simple. The MS and CS were developed in cooperation with ESU. Since ESU and Maerklin are no longer working together, Maerklin had to develop a replacement product for these items, hence the new versions. Regards Mike C
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tototrains		#34 Posted : 26 February 2009 03:09:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 13 Location: Lawrence, Kansas		The "construction" set 29181 was also cancelled. And to make the list complete, the following MiniTrix starter sets were cancelled: 11127 Dgtl Era III Anniversary Starter Set, 11128 Freight Train Starter Set and 11487 DB Passenger Train Starter Set.
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Bigdaddynz		#35 Posted : 26 February 2009 04:11:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by tototrains <br />The "construction" set 29181 was also cancelled. I must admit I was eyeing that set up!
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nevw		#36 Posted : 26 February 2009 04:51:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		and also cancelled is hte 150th Train tour until a later date if it goes.
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mvd71		#37 Posted : 26 February 2009 08:11:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,946 Location: Auckland,		Gentlemen, whilst it is disapointing for those who were looking to buy some of these sets. It is most likely part of a product rationalisation that Marklin have no choice but to do. Probably it won't effect the sales of sets to genuine beginners, as they will buy a set anyway just to get started. What it will do is enable marklin to reduce inventory costs by having fewer product lines and reduce the complexity of co-ordinating excessive numbers of production runs. I would not be at all suprised to see some other lines cancelled also. Prehaps then Marklin will be able to focus on what I mentioned last year, of actually delivering product in a timely fashion. Cheers.... Mike.
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stenscience		#38 Posted : 26 February 2009 23:19:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 789 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico		[:0] Hi all. I got an email from my dealer yesterday (RJF Trains) that included the text of a message he got from M. Here is the relevant info. I am just passing the info on, so please don't flame me[}:)][}:)]I have no axe to grind... "Märklin GmbH has made the following announcement regarding the starter set program: Under consideration of the current situation of our company, the production program of this year's starter set assortment had to undergo a critical analysis. Therefore, the following starter sets are taken off the current offer: STARTER SETS CANCELLED FROM STARTER SET PROGRAM Märklin HO: 29011 Dgtl "Passenger Train" Starter Set w/New Mobile Station 29019 Dgtl "Switzerland" Megal Starter Set w/2 New Mobile Stations 29150 Dgtl "Freight Train" Starter Set w/New Mobile Station 29181 Dgtl "Construction Site" Starter Set w/Infrared Controller 29477 Dgtl "Regional Express" Starter Set w/New Mobile Station 29482 Dgtl "Swiss Freight Train" Starter Set w/New Mobile Station 29610 "Looney Tunes" Starter Set - Not available outside of Europe 29757 Dgtl "Fire Department" Starter Set w/Infrared Digital Controller Märklin 1-Scale 55038 Dgtl DB Era III 1 Gauge Starter Set w/New Mobile Station 55039 Dgtl DB Era III 1 Gauge Mega Starter Set w/2 New Mobile Stations Trix T11127 Dgtl "Era III" Anniversary Starter Set w/New Trix Mobile Station T11128 "Freight Train" Starter Set w/Analog Controller T11487 "DB Passenger Train" Starter Set w/Analog Controller EXPANSION SET CANCELLED FROM NEW ITEMS PROGRAM Märklin HO 78054 Regional Express Expansion Set"
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steventrain		#39 Posted : 28 February 2009 18:44:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,723 Location: United Kingdom		Still on Marklin database website, Should ask Marklin to removed it.
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I_love_Marklin_37538		#40 Posted : 01 March 2009 00:05:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2008(UTC) Posts: 957 Location: ,		is the class 17 cancelled?
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mvd71		#41 Posted : 01 March 2009 00:27:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,946 Location: Auckland,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:PS: My dealer also found out that some 2008 products/items yet to be delivered have just "disappeared" from his backlog list - but maybe they are already on their way from Märklin. I hope that they are being shipped, because we still have people waiting for their 2008 orders down here!
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Bigdaddynz		#42 Posted : 01 March 2009 01:05:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves <br />Hopefully not the BR23 or BR39... And hopefully not the Big Boy! Seeing Big Boys being assembled in the video re Marklin's insolvency gives me some hope! Hopefully it wasn't old video footage!
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TimR		#43 Posted : 02 March 2009 22:29:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves <br />Hopefully not the BR23 or BR39... And hopefully not the Big Boy! Seeing Big Boys being assembled in the video re Marklin's insolvency gives me some hope! Hopefully it wasn't old video footage! I think considering the situation, it is the new tooling models (Br 23, 39, Re6/6) that are more at risk from cost cutting exercises. We can hope that they will only have delayed release rather than cancelled.
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davemr		#44 Posted : 03 March 2009 00:23:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 983 Location: ,		I hope the list of items will be re-issued as if they are in stock when not sell them and get in some cash.
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mike c		#45 Posted : 03 March 2009 12:45:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,271 Location: Montreal, QC		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br />The following items will be re-issued instead of their canceled successors; maybe only "as long as stock is available": 29010 &lt;- 29011 29151 &lt;- 29150 29180 &lt;- 29181 29476 &lt;- 29477 29841 &lt;- 29482 29756 &lt;- 29757 This would make sense, as it seems that the reason for cancelling the new sets was the non-availability of the MS2. I guess this will provide Maerklin with the added opportunity to clear out any remaining inventory of CS at the same time. Regards Mike C
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kimballthurlow		#46 Posted : 03 March 2009 15:23:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,779 Location: Brisbane, Australia		Hi Lutz, Any news or developments on that? Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:PS: My dealer also found out that some 2008 products/items yet to be delivered have just "disappeared" from his backlog list - but maybe they are already on their way from Märklin. Like Michael in NZ, I am also waiting. I ordered a 37774 diesel train from the Australian dealer, and he is still waiting for news. regards Kimball
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Goofy		#47 Posted : 03 March 2009 20:42:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,320		I wonder sometimes if insidermodel and BR23 will been produced,because it´s complete new worktoy that costs very expensive. If not else they have already start massproducing those 2 models...? Goofy
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steventrain		#48 Posted : 08 March 2009 16:17:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,723 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br />The following items will be re-issued instead of their canceled successors; maybe only "as long as stock is available": 29010 &lt;- 29011@ 29151 &lt;- 29150@ 29180 &lt;- 29181 29476 &lt;- 29477@ 29481 &lt;- 29482@ 29756 &lt;- 29757 @The 29010, 29151, 29476 and 29481 on Marklin database are all red light mean no longer production.
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