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Offline DTaylor91  
#1 Posted : 28 June 2008 00:10:13(UTC)
DTaylor91


Joined: 31/08/2007(UTC)
Posts: 414
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Hi all,

I thought it was about time to contribute something here besides trite jokes and weird questions!

I once picked up extra money by working for a couple train shops as a custom painter, and model builder. I wasn't the greatest out there by any means, but I did come up with a few tricks that maybe some of you will find useful.

This first one is VERY simple, and often overlooked. It's also a way for me to test out my new photobucket account![:I]

Often, and on more models than you think, there will be a representation of a detail that isn't as visible as it could be, simply because the part is not the color it would be on the prototype. The reason for a lot of manufacturers doing this is easy to figure out - It would be too labor-intensive and costly to do. But, a few minutes spent with a small paintbrush, and a little/lot of patience, you can take a model to "the next level", using only a little paint applied in the proper places.

The model below is my BR 86. It is my first digital Märklin locomotive, and it is one of the ubiquitous versions of the BR 86 found in Märklin's digital starter sets. I did the painting long before I found this forum, so the thought of taking "before and after" photos had not occurred to me. However, a photo of the starter set BR 86 shouldn't be too hard to find for comparison! wink

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The photo below is based on a photo of a BR 86 I found online, but I can't remember the site. All I know is that it was some kind of museum, and I really liked the way the front was painted:

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The only tricky part of this, and it's not so tricky with a little practice, is painting the side rods and valve gear. Let a decent amount of paint remain on the brush, and run it over the part you are painting, and don't worry about it going on the surface of the rod at all. The only thing to be cautious of is to not let paint get in a pivot point, or joint (HINT: a TINY drop of oil on all these points prevents this from happening, as the paint is water-based). As soon as the paint has filled in the depression in the rod, take a bit of tissue that is pulled tightly enough over your finger tip that it will not dip into the depression, but simply remove the excess paint on the surface. A close-up of the running gear:

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3/4 view from the rear:

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This paint is what I used, undiluted, and brushed on the model in all cases. It is so close to a perfect match to the Märklin red that I didn't even try to adjust the color. You can see the "part number" in the photo, and the paint is called "Signal Red":

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I hope my first attempt at image-posting works. Also, let me know how photo quality turns out on your end - too dark, too light, dithered, etc.. I use a Mac, with a nice LCD screen, and I know that Windows-based monitors are calibrated differently. The photos look just fine on my monitor, but may not on yours, so I want to learn how to strike a happy medium.Smile

P.S., Yes, the paint is water-based. Smile
Offline kimballthurlow  
#2 Posted : 28 June 2008 00:58:30(UTC)
kimballthurlow

Australia   
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC)
Posts: 6,765
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Hi Don,
Thanks for going to the trouble to detail your experience.
This is certainly one of the fun parts of the hobby, where you can make a model different to all the rest.
It works a treat for freight wagons as well.
regards
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
Offline DTaylor91  
#3 Posted : 28 June 2008 04:09:58(UTC)
DTaylor91


Joined: 31/08/2007(UTC)
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Location: Kennesaw, GA
Thanks Kimball! After I get used to holding an airbrush in my hand again (it's been awhile), weathering comes next!!

Don Taylor
Offline intruder  
#4 Posted : 28 June 2008 04:32:02(UTC)
intruder

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Location: Akershus, Norway
Very good, DTaylor91.

The same locomotive "as is", from the starter set 29530:
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Edit Jan. 21 2009: update image url
Best regards Svein, Norway
grumpy old sod
Offline DTaylor91  
#5 Posted : 28 June 2008 04:45:09(UTC)
DTaylor91


Joined: 31/08/2007(UTC)
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Location: Kennesaw, GA
Thanks for posting the "before" photo Svein!

I forgot to mention earlier, but everything that was red originally, I did NOT repaint! Especially, I didn't paint any of the wheels/drivers, I only painted the ends of the axles. Yes, that's just how well that paint matched the original!

Don Taylor

Offline Rowan  
#6 Posted : 28 June 2008 07:23:44(UTC)
Rowan


Joined: 09/04/2006(UTC)
Posts: 1,278
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Excellent thread and piccys,thanks mate!

Smile
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#7 Posted : 28 June 2008 10:37:13(UTC)
Bigdaddynz

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Location: New Zealand
Nice job Don!
Offline David Dewar  
#8 Posted : 28 June 2008 15:11:10(UTC)
David Dewar

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Location: Scotland
Excellent job Don. You must have a very steady hand and I presume you use top quality brushes. Good photos.

David
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Offline renevoorburg  
#9 Posted : 29 June 2008 00:29:57(UTC)
renevoorburg


Joined: 16/10/2005(UTC)
Posts: 382
Location: Planet Earth (mostly)
Hi Don,

It looks great!

But... it can look even better (more realistic) when you paint the electricity boxes yellow. See this thread https://www.marklin-users.net/fo...ult.aspx?g=posts&t=10272 on how I did that to my BR 64.

Cheers, René
Offline Marty  
#10 Posted : 29 June 2008 01:17:54(UTC)
Marty

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Joined: 29/05/2008(UTC)
Posts: 272
Location: USA
Thanks for the pictures. It's amazing how a little bit of paint can really bring out existing detail on a model. Steam locomotives, in particular, have lots of detail that can be highlighted with a little paint and tender loving care (whistles, bells, valves, fittings, etc). Cool
Marty
Offline steventrain  
#11 Posted : 29 June 2008 13:47:50(UTC)
steventrain

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Very good, Don.

Thanks for posting the pictures.
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline obxbill  
#12 Posted : 22 January 2009 01:43:25(UTC)
obxbill

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Nice job! I did something similar on my little 3000. I also blacked out that large "hanging" rod that they come with. Made it much less noticeable and more realistic to me. You used a better shade of red than I did, though. I'll have to use the Pollyscale next time. Thanks for the infromative thread!

Bill
Marklin HO and Z also Hornby 00 and US 2-rail
Offline FMS  
#13 Posted : 23 January 2009 01:01:04(UTC)
FMS


Joined: 01/01/2009(UTC)
Posts: 839
Location: PT
Hi there! I've got a small obstacle: i'm not going to find this paint brand arround here. Is there any other solution with Umbroll or something similar?
Regards
FMS
Offline FMS  
#14 Posted : 27 January 2009 01:41:18(UTC)
FMS


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Posts: 839
Location: PT
I managed myself...
Humbrol Acrylic paint(174)
Regards
FMS
Offline DTaylor91  
#15 Posted : 27 January 2009 02:45:23(UTC)
DTaylor91


Joined: 31/08/2007(UTC)
Posts: 414
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Quote:
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<br />I managed myself...
Humbrol Acrylic paint(174)


I'm glad you found this, I have no source of Humbrol in my area that I am aware of.

Don

Offline DTaylor91  
#16 Posted : 27 January 2009 05:49:36(UTC)
DTaylor91


Joined: 31/08/2007(UTC)
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Location: Kennesaw, GA
Hi All,

I finally got around to taking some "update" photos of the latest paint work, after digging around on the internet looking at even more protoype photos of the Br 86, and reading some of the excellent suggestions made above. Before I start weathering, I still need to add cab hand rails, and the white safety "circles" on the buffers. I'm not going to say anything else, I'd rather see if everything I've done since the last set of photos is noticeable.....

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As always, comments, especially ones correcting obvious mistakes, are welcome....

Don

Offline Darren W  
#17 Posted : 27 January 2009 07:06:35(UTC)
Darren W

Canada   
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Posts: 643
Location: Alberta
Thanks for starting this thread and sharing your work. I need to do some touch up work on a couple of locomotives and now finding a good colour match will be easy. I may even look for prototype pictures to do extra details.

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Offline Goofy  
#18 Posted : 27 January 2009 07:06:48(UTC)
Goofy


Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC)
Posts: 9,289
Just Fleischmanns BR86 is much better than Marklins BR86...!
Fleischmann has now with sound in BR86...!

Goofy

P.S.
Nice work anyway at yours BR86...!
H0
DCC = Digital Command Control
Offline FMS  
#19 Posted : 28 January 2009 01:11:22(UTC)
FMS


Joined: 01/01/2009(UTC)
Posts: 839
Location: PT
Yep! that's the work that matters in here!
Nice job Don!Smile
Regards
FMS
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