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Offline Goofy  
#1 Posted : 16 May 2015 07:40:34(UTC)
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I did weathered my BR64 yesterday.

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Offline Goofy  
#2 Posted : 16 May 2015 09:09:38(UTC)
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This time shoot with aperture...

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Offline Goofy  
#3 Posted : 16 May 2015 11:03:47(UTC)
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Next time i will add rust on the locomotive.
Sorry about my pics!
In fact do my locomotive have more soft weathered,than what pictures says.
It depends internal flash in my camera,which cause colder pictures.
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Offline Goofy  
#4 Posted : 16 May 2015 19:16:20(UTC)
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A tip...
Use maskol to protecting the headlamps.
So you don´t need to dirt the lens on the headlamps!
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Offline Joseph Meiring  
#5 Posted : 17 May 2015 21:50:25(UTC)
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...here's my weathered 64 - done by Marklin.....
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Offline NZMarklinist  
#6 Posted : 18 May 2015 03:50:44(UTC)
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Apart from anything else, what Goofy got right here, is the water staining ThumpUp

Sorry Joe but I find it the big fault in all of M's weathered Steam Loks is that they don't do, or underdo, as in this case, the water staining ThumbDown

The Water stains are the first ones on a new Dampflok Wink

As for rust Goofy, when they are well used, if in current use, Damploks don't normally have a lot of rust stains, one of the thing that IMHO M's weathering aritists, seem to over do Bored
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Offline Goofy  
#7 Posted : 18 May 2015 18:42:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NZMarklinist Go to Quoted Post
Apart from anything else, what Goofy got right here, is the water staining ThumpUp

Sorry Joe but I find it the big fault in all of M's weathered Steam Loks is that they don't do, or underdo, as in this case, the water staining ThumbDown

The Water stains are the first ones on a new Dampflok Wink

As for rust Goofy, when they are well used, if in current use, Damploks don't normally have a lot of rust stains, one of the thing that IMHO M's weathering aritists, seem to over do Bored


Hello!
Yes it should show with the water staining too by dirty steam locomotive.
I did just an small mistake...i did weathered water staining first,before i did add black powder which did covered some over the water staining.
Water staining do in fact shows little more effect.
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Offline Goofy  
#8 Posted : 18 May 2015 18:46:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Joe Meiring Go to Quoted Post
...here's my weathered 64 - done by Marklin.....


It´s okey,but rust seems over ride weathered by of Märklin.
It looks like a leopard spots.
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Offline Webmaster  
#9 Posted : 19 May 2015 21:05:32(UTC)
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Nice & subtle weathering, Anders. ThumpUp

As others have said, the M factory weathering overdoes it regarding rust.

But constant water filling & leaks gives calcium residues, and grease & dirt does leave marks at the bottom end of the loco...
I guess this loco has been in service for 1-3 years, with the obvious dirt but has not started rusting yet due to poor maintenance... Smile
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Offline Shamu  
#10 Posted : 20 May 2015 08:49:11(UTC)
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Nicely done Anders.

From memory the only loco's that ever had any signs of rust were the shunter's/yard donkeys but that was just my observations at the old NSW Yeerongpilly yard where my uncle was the yardmaster and the Roma Street yard where my grandfather worked back in the 50/60's.

I certainly do not recall any of the mainline loco's ever looking "rusty", water stained yes but never rusty.
Sad when its cheaper to buy a new 29640 starter set from Germany than a CS2 on its own in Oz, welcome to the joys of Marklin down under .
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Offline Goofy  
#11 Posted : 20 May 2015 09:21:36(UTC)
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My next project to dirt locomotive will been Trix bayern steam locomotive and this loco used peat.
I will dirt locomotive some difference.
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Offline MikeR  
#12 Posted : 20 May 2015 09:56:32(UTC)
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Hi Anders

I really like the way your loco looks after weathering. I have never done any weathering. Can you perhaps tell me how you do it? Do you use chalk(kalk)? or do you use water based paints? Also some explanation of how you apply the weathering would be helpful (brush, sponge or some other applicator?). How do you make the black and red paint less shiny?

Looking forward to seeing your next loco.
Mike
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Offline carlos.rivas.16752  
#13 Posted : 20 May 2015 19:14:41(UTC)
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Here you are mine...I like my weathering to be slight.

I usually use thin brushes for water stains and round brushes for the edges. Flat brushes are used for general weathering; once the brush has some painting I clean almost everything and start painting very, very smoothly. Water based colors only and some oil painting now and then.

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Offline Goofy  
#14 Posted : 21 May 2015 18:24:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MikeR Go to Quoted Post
Hi Anders

I really like the way your loco looks after weathering. I have never done any weathering. Can you perhaps tell me how you do it? Do you use chalk(kalk)? or do you use water based paints? Also some explanation of how you apply the weathering would be helpful (brush, sponge or some other applicator?). How do you make the black and red paint less shiny?

Looking forward to seeing your next loco.


Good evening!
I use weathered powder,matt cote mix with the thinner,spray acryl varnish.
Also black enamel color mix with the thinner.
For the underframe i use black enamel color mix with the thinner,to look like dirt oil.
Don´t use too much black color!
The brushes are depending of where you want to dirty locomotive.
There is flat,rounded and small brushes to use.
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Offline MikeR  
#15 Posted : 21 May 2015 20:07:24(UTC)
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Thank you Anders. I am working on my layout but will find some time to weather a loco. I presume that the process is not reversible so if I don't like the result I cannot wash off the weathering and start again. I will need to try and apply more weathering to correct the effect. I will start with an old cheaper loco to learn how to do it. I will also work on the assumption that it is better to apply less and add more coats of weathering one at a time.
Mike
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Offline Goofy  
#16 Posted : 22 May 2015 19:35:31(UTC)
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You can try by test with an iron pipe.
Just paint black enamel color mix with the thinner on the iron pipe.
Let it dry!
Next step is to use matt cote mix with the thinner and coat it on the iron pipe.
Let it dry about 15-20 minutes.
Now use black powder and brush it on the iron pipe.
Use acrylic spray varnish to seal the color.
You can test by use with the rust and white powder too.
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Offline MikeR  
#17 Posted : 22 May 2015 22:10:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
You can try by test with an iron pipe.
Just paint black enamel color mix with the thinner on the iron pipe.
Let it dry!
Next step is to use matt cote mix with the thinner and coat it on the iron pipe.
Let it dry about 15-20 minutes.
Now use black powder and brush it on the iron pipe.
Use acrylic spray varnish to seal the color.
You can test by use with the rust and white powder too.


Thanks Anders. I will give it a try on an iron pipe as you suggest. Will be better than destroying a good loco.
Mike
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Analog - M track with solid centre rail (after C track layout is complete)
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Offline NZMarklinist  
#18 Posted : 25 May 2015 07:57:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MikeR Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
You can try by test with an iron pipe.
Just paint black enamel color mix with the thinner on the iron pipe.
Let it dry!
Next step is to use matt cote mix with the thinner and coat it on the iron pipe.
Let it dry about 15-20 minutes.
Now use black powder and brush it on the iron pipe.
Use acrylic spray varnish to seal the color.
You can test by use with the rust and white powder too.


Thanks Anders. I will give it a try on an iron pipe as you suggest. Will be better than destroying a good loco.


Actually I have half a mind to buy one or two beaten up old 3000s that sell for sfa (not much) Wink and practice on them hmmmmmmmm Scared
Glen
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#19 Posted : 25 May 2015 19:18:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NZMarklinist Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: MikeR Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
You can try by test with an iron pipe.
Just paint black enamel color mix with the thinner on the iron pipe.
Let it dry!
Next step is to use matt cote mix with the thinner and coat it on the iron pipe.
Let it dry about 15-20 minutes.
Now use black powder and brush it on the iron pipe.
Use acrylic spray varnish to seal the color.
You can test by use with the rust and white powder too.


Thanks Anders. I will give it a try on an iron pipe as you suggest. Will be better than destroying a good loco.


Actually I have half a mind to buy one or two beaten up old 3000s that sell for sfa (not much) Wink and practice on them hmmmmmmmm Scared


I got one recently as part of a two loco lot at auction, and have been thinking the same thing for it. Woot Woot Woot

Offline MikeR  
#20 Posted : 26 May 2015 09:51:10(UTC)
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I have an old 3000 which I intend using as a guinea pig. Still need to finish my layout before I get involved in these other activities.
Mike
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Analog - M track with solid centre rail (after C track layout is complete)
Collect all Eras - especially Crocodiles
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