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Offline Don Greenwood  
#1 Posted : 10 April 2015 15:57:42(UTC)
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I have Marklin M track uncouplers with lantern masts. There is the single yellow wire which obviously would hook up to the lighting connection via a distribution plate to my 280 Super transformer. Should I connect the single blue wire to a 7072 switch panel, or could I instead use a 7210 switch panel (which has four connections as opposed to the eight of the 7072)? The 7210 is in perfect shape (unwarped!).
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Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 10 April 2015 16:45:37(UTC)
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Hi!
With the 7072 the uncoupler will be activated only while you press a button. With a 7210 it will be on until you press the other button - forgetting that could fry the uncoupler track. Otherwise it will work.
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Tom
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Offline analogmike  
#3 Posted : 11 April 2015 03:46:02(UTC)
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yes, I agree with HO. The 7072 is the one you want. It would be referred to as a "momentary contact" switch. I remember reading an article about using 9V-dc to power these units in order to eliminate the loud "buzzing" they produce when energized. I would like to know if this is true, and if so is there any damage to the coils??? mikey
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Offline Don Greenwood  
#4 Posted : 11 April 2015 16:22:45(UTC)
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Thanks for the information. But exactly what is the 7210 suited for if you run the risk of frying something connected to it?
Offline H0  
#5 Posted : 11 April 2015 16:29:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Don Greenwood Go to Quoted Post
But exactly what is the 7210 suited for if you run the risk of frying something connected to it?
You can use it to turn lights on/off or to control the power of sidings (with isolated centre rail). And many other things.

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Tom
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Offline Don Greenwood  
#6 Posted : 21 April 2015 19:08:04(UTC)
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Thanks for the information regarding the 7210 panel. Another question: I have connected two 5112 M track uncouplers to a 7072 control panel. One of the uncouplers does not work. The other will engage, but it buzzes and does not retract when the other button is pushed, although the buzzing stops. Suggestions? Is the buzzing related to using AC current?
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Offline Brakeman  
#7 Posted : 21 April 2015 20:59:21(UTC)
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The solenoid activates when the green wire is earthed. The plastic uncoupler pops up, and drops in when circuit opens. There is no forced action to move it down, it relies on gravity.
Yes, it buzzes because of alternating current. If you use direct current, the solenoid will heat up and burn. In the past 2-Rail systems like Fleischmann used also AC for solenoids while track power was DC.

Regards,
Juha

Originally Posted by: Don Greenwood Go to Quoted Post
Thanks for the information regarding the 7210 panel. Another question: I have connected two 5112 M track uncouplers to a 7072 control panel. One of the uncouplers does not work. The other will engage, but it buzzes and does not retract when the other button is pushed, although the buzzing stops. Suggestions? Is the buzzing related to using AC current?


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Offline SteamNut  
#8 Posted : 21 April 2015 21:09:13(UTC)
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M track uncouplers do make a buzzing noise, which is rather loud, in use. If the uncoupling ramp does not come back down something may be binding or perhaps some lubrication with a electronic spray cleaner may help. With your other uncoupler there may be a wire disconnected which means to pry off the back to inspect it. The coil may be defective which you can check with a ohm meter. If all else fails there is eBay for a other one which in my experience is easier then a complicated fix or locating spare parts for a fix.
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Offline analogmike  
#9 Posted : 26 April 2015 03:34:17(UTC)
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i forget...won't the pickup shoe push the uncoupler down as the lok passes over it? i know them to stay up sometimes but never have they derailed a lok. mikey
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