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waorb		#1 Posted : 07 April 2015 03:30:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 868 Location: Brazil		Hello! Looking this recent video from Jens (Link), I have an interesting question... It's possible to create the same effect of the smoke under the wheels in H0 scale? Someone have tips & ideas? Is there a product already on the market? Comments? Cheers, Walter
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H0		#2 Posted : 07 April 2015 07:45:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,265 Location: DE-NW		Hi! Originally Posted by: waorb It's possible to create the same effect of the smoke under the wheels in H0 scale? [...] Is there a product already on the market? Roco made at least two H0 models that have this, including the BR 10 Black Swan. Three-rail versions also available, but RRP is high (around € 750 incl. VAT IIRC).
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS

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Joseph Meiring		#3 Posted : 07 April 2015 09:00:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,157 Location: Western Cape Cape Town		Yes I recall reading a report in Continental Modeller a few years back of the Roco with smoke coming out the cylinders - must be very impressive....strange that Marklin haven't produced something similar yet....??? Joe


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Angus		#4 Posted : 07 April 2015 09:09:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 202 Location: Johannesburg		Monster123 (Riekus) has one of those Roco Br10's and yes it is very impressive. The other feature the Roco has is that the funnel smoke puffs along with the sound.

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EMD_GP7		#5 Posted : 07 April 2015 23:35:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/11/2010(UTC) Posts: 192 Location: U.K. Midlands		Hi all. There are usually only two reasons for steam from under the wheels. One is a bad leak from the cylinder or valve seals or more normally the clearing of condensed water from the cyliders by the use of the "Cylinder drain cocks or valves". This only happens for a short while when the loco starts and most efforts I have seen for H0 have the steam on all the while. I have seen comments such as " It looks better when movong fast " This should not happen unless you like leaky locos ! The only realistic H0 loco I have seen is this one so it is possible. No connection with the manufacturer or supplier but when I have the money I will buy one . Regards, Colin.

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Dangermouse		#6 Posted : 07 April 2015 23:57:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 115 Location: Wales		From the other end, you will never see a real steam engine move off without puffs from the drain cocks. Why? Well, when an engine stands the cylinders will cool, so that any steam injected into them will at least partially condense into water. Water cannot be compressed, and is likely to blow the end off the cylinder (much like an IC engine sucking water into the intake). The drain cocks allow the water to be blown out, and are closed after the cylinders have had a chance to warm up. I'm always a bit surprised to see people wanting smoke units for indoor layouts. My experience in G scale is that it forms a horrible oily mess over everything unless you have some breeze to take it away. Realistic, but not helpful for clean track!
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analogmike		#7 Posted : 08 April 2015 13:05:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 739 Location: NEW JERSEY, USA		i have been using LGB smoke fluid for years and never have i noticed it to leave any noticeable residue on anything. i will admit though, after a long run the top and front of the lok will get soaked, it always evaporates completely. even on a flat black, non-factory paint job. i even think it looks realistic when returning a dirty, hard-run lok to the shops for servicing. when friends bring the kids to see the trains and there is a steamer without smoke they want to know why! i never run non-smoking loks when the kids are arround. i always let them fill the smoke units. if they miss a few drops i don't mind. LGB even recomends using it to clean the tracks. i have tried it and it works fine but i prefer isopropyl because its cheaper. mike
		I love the smell of smoke fluid in the morning .

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waorb		#8 Posted : 08 April 2015 16:25:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 868 Location: Brazil		Hello folks! Thanks for the coments... really appreciate it. With those tips, I found on the net the specific model for 3-rail AC. Roco 68193. Several videos on Youtube. Roco installed an extra motor to make the Dynamic Smoke... Really cool. Cheers, Walter
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Bigdaddynz		#9 Posted : 09 April 2015 21:52:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: Joe Meiring ...strange that Marklin haven't produced something similar yet....??? Marklin have done this......but only on the Gauge 1 BR38 that was released last year.
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Nielsenr		#10 Posted : 10 April 2015 00:45:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 883 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL		I picked up the Roco 68193 last summer from Modelbahnlippe-shoppe late last summer when Roco was closing it out. Picked it up for about $460 US after VAT was removed. I love the effect!! Robert


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