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Offline Mark5  
#1 Posted : 15 December 2014 21:28:11(UTC)
Mark5

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Hello all,
I found this article helpful to sort out a bit of history and the names for
F-Zug
FD-Zug
D-Zug
Ex-Zug
etc...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schnellzug

If you find or know of other useful articles to help decode train classifications, please post them on this thread.

Hope this is helpful,
Mark

Edited by user 16 December 2014 20:26:20(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

DB DR FS NS SNCF c. 1950-65, fan of station architecture esp. from 1920-70.
In single point perspective, where do track lines meet?
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#2 Posted : 16 December 2014 09:16:18(UTC)
kimballthurlow

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Location: Brisbane, Australia
Hi Mark and all,

I have used this site extensively to get some understanding of the German passenger trains.
I have given a link to the home page, and you can follow from there.

History of German long-distance train traffic from 1920.

http://www.dbtrains.com/en

regards
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline Mark5  
#3 Posted : 16 December 2014 20:13:58(UTC)
Mark5

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Also found this handy.
But would be nice to see how this is applied with images of the wagons.
Thinking about how they get compounded.

https://en.wikipedia.org...an_railway_wagon_classes

Printable PDF of this attached.
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DB DR FS NS SNCF c. 1950-65, fan of station architecture esp. from 1920-70.
In single point perspective, where do track lines meet?
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#4 Posted : 17 December 2014 12:06:48(UTC)
Alsterstreek

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Maybe still of interest in this context:

https://www.marklin-user...ositions.aspx#post380540
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Offline Token  
#5 Posted : 18 December 2014 13:52:49(UTC)
Token

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Posts: 300
Location: Sydney, NSW
Hi All,

while we are on this topic, I have been fruitlessly trying to classify a number of commonly utilised era III wagons to records in my collection. These are the 'privately operated' tank and gas cars but surely there would be a formal classification?

I refer to the Marklin sets 46456 and 46529. Perhaps more difficult are the specialised purpose cars such as Marklin 48250 or even Trix 24008 just for an extra challenge.

Could anyone help here?

Regards,

Token.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#6 Posted : 28 December 2014 23:43:49(UTC)
kimballthurlow

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Location: Brisbane, Australia
Originally Posted by: Token Go to Quoted Post
Hi All,

while we are on this topic, I have been fruitlessly trying to classify a number of commonly utilised era III wagons to records in my collection. These are the 'privately operated' tank and gas cars but surely there would be a formal classification?

I refer to the Marklin sets 46456 and 46529. Perhaps more difficult are the specialised purpose cars such as Marklin 48250 or even Trix 24008 just for an extra challenge.

Could anyone help here?

Regards,

Token.


Hi Token,

Classification of wagons was done to help railway employees decide what wagon could be used for a particular load, so they could call for one from the nearest holding yard.

As I understand it, and as I have read in Marklins' own treatises on the subject, privately owned tank cars are run on the railways by licence.
In other words, these cars are marshalled into and out of trains by the operator (eg. DB), as required by the wagon owner/lessee.

Apart from that the operator does not have to attend to them in any way, or make sure they are re-utilized.
The wagon will only be returned to base at the instruction of the owner/lessee.
So a wagon classification is unnecessary, as the railway operator will never utilize that wagon.

By the way, in both era II and era III throughout Europe (from what I can ascertain), privately owned cars were always allocated running numbers in the 500,000 series.
And in Germany, the letter P was added after the number, usually in a little painted border.

regards
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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