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Offline steventrain  
#1 Posted : 18 October 2014 21:10:51(UTC)
steventrain

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This is the new world record for longest model train. Total length of train is 1,134' From beginning to end takes about 29 minutes to pass by.

The layout is about 28'W and 65'L.. Loops around 8 times then does a flyover to go back in the center then loops around again. Total length of the track is around 1,300'

used over 434 pieces of 3' flex track.

Power is a 12 volt DC car battery

Sorry it is a 2-Rail American modelling!

Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#2 Posted : 18 October 2014 21:45:56(UTC)
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A bit longer than Mehmet's BR44 headed train then, Stephen?
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#3 Posted : 18 October 2014 22:42:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
This is the new world record for longest model train. Total length of train is 1,134' From beginning to end takes about 29 minutes to pass by.

The layout is about 28'W and 65'L.. Loops around 8 times then does a flyover to go back in the center then loops around again. Total length of the track is around 1,300'

used over 434 pieces of 3' flex track.

Power is a 12 volt DC car battery

Sorry it is a 2-Rail American modelling!



whew, how many F7s id they have pulling that then? maybe they needed a complete set of Big Boys ? Haven't watched the video, about to go and catch up on some more sleep ...Sleep

Offline SteamNut  
#4 Posted : 18 October 2014 23:33:28(UTC)
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I wonder what couplers they used? The ones that Marklin uses now would surely pull out of the pockets. The longest I managed was about 60 cars with the old style couplers and a 4 percent grade using my old 3047 (44 060).
Offline foumaro  
#5 Posted : 19 October 2014 04:43:15(UTC)
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I have see my Alcos 37610 and 37613 pulling 85 cars on 5% grade very easily.
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Offline steventrain  
#6 Posted : 19 October 2014 09:30:40(UTC)
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23 Locomotives with 1,662 cars (72 cars per one loco).
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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Offline utkan  
#7 Posted : 19 October 2014 15:43:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
A bit longer than Mehmet's BR44 headed train then, Stephen?



How nice of you to remember me RollEyes with this event....Smile

and please allow me to correct a few facts....Smile

my old lady (DB 44) has managed to pull 201 passenger wagons(four axled)...RollEyes

she has also managed to pull 310 freight cars(two axled)....RollEyes

In both trials she was alone.....RollEyes

I wish I had seen a message of yours in my thread below,too....Sad


https://www.marklin-user...o--The-Game-is-Over.aspx

...and I share all the happiness you have felt with the 23 locod long train with you, too

Cheers,

m.utkan
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Offline utkan  
#8 Posted : 19 October 2014 15:51:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: SteamNut Go to Quoted Post
I wonder what couplers they used? The ones that Marklin uses now would surely pull out of the pockets. The longest I managed was about 60 cars with the old style couplers and a 4 percent grade using my old 3047 (44 060).






Hi SteamNut,

An experience of DB 44 690.....RollEyes

Cheers,

mehmet
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Offline utkan  
#9 Posted : 19 October 2014 15:58:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
I have see my Alcos 37610 and 37613 pulling 85 cars on 5% grade very easily.


Hi Foumaro,

An American Beauty approves your words....ThumpUp ThumpUp



Cheers,

mehmet
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Offline utkan  
#10 Posted : 19 October 2014 16:03:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
23 Locomotives with 1,662 cars (72 cars per one loco).




Good calculation of yours, Stephen....if had 23 DB 44s, I wonder what would be the number of wagons....Confused Confused




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Offline foumaro  
#11 Posted : 19 October 2014 16:48:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: utkan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
I have see my Alcos 37610 and 37613 pulling 85 cars on 5% grade very easily.


Hi Foumaro,

An American Beauty approves your words....ThumpUp ThumpUp



Cheers,

mehmet

Yes,she is perfect too.LOL ThumpUp Wub
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Offline utkan  
#12 Posted : 19 October 2014 17:01:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: utkan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
I have see my Alcos 37610 and 37613 pulling 85 cars on 5% grade very easily.


Hi Foumaro,

An American Beauty approves your words....ThumpUp ThumpUp



Cheers,

mehmet

Yes,she is perfect too.LOL ThumpUp Wub


All agreed....ThumpUp Wub BigGrin

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Offline Yumgui  
#13 Posted : 19 October 2014 21:12:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: utkan Go to Quoted Post
... and please allow me to correct a few facts....Smile
my old lady (DB 44) has managed to pull 201 passenger wagons(four axled)...RollEyes
she has also managed to pull 310 freight cars(two axled)....RollEyes ...

OK, let's have a look at a few facts (hoping my numbers are right) ...

1134ft = 345.64m / 23 locos = 15.03m per loco ... pretty good ratio ...

But, Mehmet did this :

1 BR44 loco with :

201 four axled passenger coaches @ 24cm (minimum) / coach = 48.24m train length,

310 two axled freight cars @ 11cm (minimum) / car = 34.10m train length,

... taking the minimum Märklin lengths into account, it seems Mehmet wins hands down !

Or put another way, 23 of Mehmet's locos would have pulled a 1109.52m train length = 3640ft ... more than three times the length of that video ... !
Woot !

Any rules on these world records ???

Y Cool

PS: Post on YT for that video, just to get the juices flowing:
Hi,
Very nice effort, but have a look here friend :
https://www.marklin-user...HO-scale.aspx#post470649
World records are relative ...
With 1000 locos and one caboose, I could win the record too ;)
Best,
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Offline utkan  
#14 Posted : 21 October 2014 10:44:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Yumgui Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: utkan Go to Quoted Post
... and please allow me to correct a few facts....Smile
my old lady (DB 44) has managed to pull 201 passenger wagons(four axled)...RollEyes
she has also managed to pull 310 freight cars(two axled)....RollEyes ...

OK, let's have a look at a few facts (hoping my numbers are right) ...

1134ft = 345.64m / 23 locos = 15.03m per loco ... pretty good ratio ...

But, Mehmet did this :

1 BR44 loco with :

201 four axled passenger coaches @ 24cm (minimum) / coach = 48.24m train length,

310 two axled freight cars @ 11cm (minimum) / car = 34.10m train length,

... taking the minimum Märklin lengths into account, it seems Mehmet wins hands down !

Or put another way, 23 of Mehmet's locos would have pulled a 1109.52m train length = 3640ft ... more than three times the length of that video ... !
Woot !

Any rules on these world records ???

Y Cool

PS: Post on YT for that video, just to get the juices flowing:
Hi,
Very nice effort, but have a look here friend :
https://www.marklin-user...HO-scale.aspx#post470649
World records are relative ...
With 1000 locos and one caboose, I could win the record too ;)
Best,



Hi Yumgui,

You have summed up the event in the best way....ThumpUp ThumpUp

...and I love the idea of 1000 loco and one caboose.....LOL LOL LOL

Cheers,

mehmet
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Offline Janne75  
#15 Posted : 21 October 2014 11:18:56(UTC)
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I totally agree Mehmet is the winner in total train lenghts per loco. We can all be very proud of that old analog DB BR 44 ThumpUp . In my opinion all these kinds of tests should be done like Mehmet & Co Wink did it = on straight track. There is however one thing different. It is harder for the locos and wagons to stay on the track and they have more resistance and sideway pulling forces when they are running in curves. I think this is also one reason why they used 23 locos to avoid wagons derailment as locos are heavier and kind of keep the wagons better on tracks when they are put between certain amount of wagons.

Just my thoughts about this... RollEyes

Cheers,
Janne
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Offline utkan  
#16 Posted : 21 October 2014 11:48:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Janne75 Go to Quoted Post
I totally agree Mehmet is the winner in total train lenghts per loco. We can all be very proud of that old analog DB BR 44 ThumpUp . In my opinion all these kinds of tests should be done like Mehmet & Co Wink did it = on straight track. There is however one thing different. It is harder for the locos and wagons to stay on the track and they have more resistance and sideway pulling forces when they are running in curves. I think this is also one reason why they used 23 locos to avoid wagons derailment as locos are heavier and kind of keep the wagons better on tracks when they are put between certain amount of wagons.

Just my thoughts about this... RollEyes

Cheers,
Janne



Hi Janne,

In our earlier trials we tried a big circle(elips)shapes....and as you said we noticed sideway pulling forces....Sad

the following video shows a trial of ours....another problem is that M-Track curves are very sharp for these kind of activities....Sad



Thanks for your interest, too...Smile

Cheers,

mehmet
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