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Offline Janne75  
#1 Posted : 29 April 2014 10:57:04(UTC)
Janne75

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Hi all,

I have tried to search for old DRG 3 axle passenger cars maximum permissible speeds from Internet without any luck. Could someone put me into right direction where to find this kind of information? I would like to search many other passenger car types also to see if the locomotive used with them in my 1:87 scale is ok like the prototype was. I have for example DRG E 18 with these 3 axle DRG cars in my display case. I know that E 18 was a very fast locomotive for it´s era with top speed of 150 km/h, but I have no idea about these 3 axle cars?

Many thanks in advance!

Regards,
Janne

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Offline RayF  
#2 Posted : 29 April 2014 15:21:38(UTC)
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Hi Janne,

I can't find any references to actual permissable speeds either, but I think I am safe saying that speeds in excess of 100 km/h would not have been allowed for two or three axle coaches.

I think a better match for the DRG E18 would be the "skirted" coaches or any other bogie types.
Ray
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Offline H0  
#3 Posted : 29 April 2014 15:48:22(UTC)
H0


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Two links to Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donnerb%C3%BCchse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbau-Wagen

So the max. speed of the DRG coaches will probably be somewhere between 80 km/h and 100 km/h.
A faster locomotive won't be a problem - you can always pretend the E 18 is a substitute for the slower standard loco that failed on that day ...

Heating could be a problem: E 18 does not provide steam heating, the old coaches probably are not prepared for electric heating.
So pretend it's a summer day and heating is not required. Maybe the coaches have coal ovens.

Or pretend the loco hauls the train to the service shop or a depot.

The permitted speed of a train is determined by the permitted speed of the route and the lowest permitted speed of the rolling stock in the train.
The route could also be the limiting factor - with weak bridges, damaged tracks, tight curves or for other reasons.

PS: It regularly happened that express train locos hauled an express train from A to B, but hauled a slow train back from B to A.
Regards
Tom
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Offline Janne75  
#4 Posted : 30 April 2014 14:32:05(UTC)
Janne75

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Many thanks Tom and Ray for the answers. Now I know much more of these things as Tom´s reply gave me even more information about the prototypes.

Cheers,
Janne
Märklin H0 digital layout. I have analog and digital H0 Collection. Rolling stock mostly from era I, II, III and IV. Märklin 1 gauge beginner.
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