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Offline sjlauritsen  
#1 Posted : 29 March 2014 11:02:17(UTC)
sjlauritsen

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Location: Denmark
Hi Guys

Inspired by this thread, I was wondering how those of you, who run with the pantographs in the up position, deal with the panto hitting the outrigger?

I set up my overhead line so that it "zig zags" over the track. Like this:

1. At the first mast the line is in the inner position
2. At the second mast the line is in the middle position
3. At the third mast line is in the outer position
4. Middle position
5. Inner position
etc.

Every so often when a train passes a mast with the line in the outer position, the panto hits the outrigger holding the line. Just barely, but enough to have me worried.

What can I do about it?
Søren from Denmark
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Offline river6109  
#2 Posted : 29 March 2014 12:30:00(UTC)
river6109

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Soren,

unless you show some pictures one can not automatically visualize your problem, you may have to bend the outrigger in such a way it is in a horizontal position, I've never heard of a middle position its either left or right.

John
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Offline sjlauritsen  
#3 Posted : 29 March 2014 14:33:11(UTC)
sjlauritsen

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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
I've never heard of a middle position its either left or right.

On a Märklin outrigger you have a middle position. You can skip it, but I think using it between the two outer positions gives the overhead line a nice "flow".

Anyway; After I wrote the post, I did try and bend the outrigger a bit downward, and it seemed to help. I wast just under the impression that I could use the masts "as is" and not having to modify them.


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Offline jvuye  
#4 Posted : 29 March 2014 15:22:12(UTC)
jvuye

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Hello Soren
Yes you have found the answer yourself!
Always make sure the "wire" end of the outrigger is always **lower** than the mast side.
I you make a profile drawing of it all and assuming the pantogarph pick up is more or less horizontal BigGrin .....you'll understsnd it's obvious! Cool
Cheers
Jacques Vuye aka Dr.Eisenbahn
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Offline sjlauritsen  
#5 Posted : 30 March 2014 10:01:51(UTC)
sjlauritsen

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Location: Denmark
Originally Posted by: jvuye Go to Quoted Post
I you make a profile drawing of it all and assuming the pantogarph pick up is more or less horizontal BigGrin .....you'll understsnd it's obvious! Cool

Actually, I looked it up on the Märklin page. There was no instructions with the products that I bought (I hope this is a mistake), but there is an old "catenary starter set" which has a booklet (#70000), that describes this problem exactly. I downloaded the manual as pdf, and adjusted some of my masts according to the instructions. I wish I would not have had to look up deprecated product pages to find it. Glare

Now with the Catenary Handbook out of production, and the manual (#70000) not included with anything. I wonder how people are supposed to have a fun day of setting up catenary.

Anyway, I can still buy the Catenary Handbook from the factory (as long as supply lasts). Does anyone have it, and can you recommend it? I have the Viessmann handbook and I find it really good.

Søren from Denmark
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Offline river6109  
#6 Posted : 30 March 2014 10:46:05(UTC)
river6109

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Soren, the joy of this hobby is as you go along you find so many things you haven't been aware of it before and I have found when I don't find the answer I do something else and if your job stops you of going any further your patience is required and all other previous actions, solutions and fixes are out of the window with other words you hit a brick wall and this can be very frustrating because suddenly your demands aren't met in your own mind.

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