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Offline vilithejou  
#1 Posted : 20 January 2014 12:42:56(UTC)
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Hi

From stummi forum

BR 261 "Gravita 10BB":
Als Top-Neuheit für das Jahr 2014 dürfen wir Ihnen ein H0-Modell der neuen DB Rangierdiesellok BR 261 "Gravita" vorstellen. Im Gegensatz zu anderen Anbietern ist das ESU-Modell weitgehend aus Metall gefertigt und glänzt mit einer hohen Detaillierung wie geätzten Geländern, warmweissen LEDs mit korrekter Fernlichtbeschaltung und einer Kurz-Kupplungs-Kinematik. Zudem wird die Lok neben einem Rauchgenerator einen LokSound V4.0 M4 Decoder mit grossem Lautsprecher zwei neu konstruierte, funktionsfähige Digitalkupplungen erhalten. Angetrieben wird sie von einem Glockenankermotor. In Verbindung mit den Kurven- und Weichensensoren wird diese Lok ein Rangiererlebnis auf Epoche VI Anlagen. ESU wird die Lok in zunächst 5 Farbvarianten ausliefern.

BR 245 "Traxx ME":
Eine weitere Formneuheit ist die neue Dieselelektrische BR 245 "Traxx ME", welche im Vorbild die 218 beerben wird. Auch bei dieser Lok setzt ESU als einziger Anbieter auf ein Vollmetallgehäuse mit aufwendiger Gravur. Die Traxx wird zudem ab Werk eine Doppelraucheinheit erhalten. Unter den separat eingesetzten Dachlüftergittern werden die Lüfter erstmalig motorisch angetrieben. Selbstverständlich wird auch die BR 245 alle Funktionen der Engineering Edition wie LokSound V4.0 M4 Decoder mit Doppel-Lautsprecher, Kurven- und Weichensensor, PowerPack, umfangreiche Beleuchtung mit Führerpult und Fernlicht uvm. haben. Freuen Sie sich mit uns auch auf den ganz speziellen Klang dieser innovativen Lok!

EHG 388:
Neuland betritt ESU mit dem H0-Modell des Einheitshilfsgerätewagens EHG388. Wir stellen damit nicht nur unser erstes, hoch detalliertes Wagenmodell vor, sondern haben den Waggon mit einer umfangreichen Meßelektronik ausgestattet. Der Modellbahner kann damit die Geschwindigkeit und den zurückgelegten Weg seiner Loks messen und direkt auf dem LCD-Display anzeigen lassen. Der Waggon wird in 3 Ausführungen für die Epoche III in grün, die Epoche IV in gelb und die Epoche VI in rot erhältlich sein.

Two new locomotive, the same moldel like BRAWA but in metall!!!
A messwagen with LCD with speed, km, etc..

on 29.01.2014 the photos and more news...
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Offline river6109  
#2 Posted : 20 January 2014 13:01:32(UTC)
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there are other new items which will be announced shortly by ESU
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Offline RayF  
#3 Posted : 20 January 2014 13:18:39(UTC)
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Thanks Joan.

I already have Marklin models of the Br 261 and the TRAXX ME, so I'm not tempted enough to get either, even though these models, and escpecially the Br 245, will no doubt have more detail than the Marklin models.

I presume these will be available in 3 rail? Will they continue with the compromise solution of having one model for both AC and DC? I gather some have had problems with the wheels not running well through turnouts.

Ray
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Offline steventrain  
#4 Posted : 20 January 2014 13:19:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
there are other new items which will be announced shortly by ESU


See list in PDF.

http://www.digitale-mode...s/esu_neuheiten_2014.pdf
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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Offline RayF  
#5 Posted : 20 January 2014 13:24:44(UTC)
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I guess Stephen answered my question!
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
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Offline vilithejou  
#6 Posted : 20 January 2014 13:38:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
there are other new items which will be announced shortly by ESU


See list in PDF.

http://www.digitale-mode...s/esu_neuheiten_2014.pdf


Thanks Steve
the list includes V200 (anouncedo on MOBA), other paint sceme of class66 and some new digitals things..
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Offline jeehring  
#7 Posted : 20 January 2014 14:09:00(UTC)
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Gradually ESU occupies the place formerly occupied by Marklin as manufacturer of high tech Rolling stock.
.
Especially since Marklin went the other way, installing cheap 3 pôles motors, wanting to align themselves with manufacturers like Roco, Piko, etc ...etc.. taking as only argument the detailing of Rolling items just because they realized that the small plastic detail was cheap and did a good effect on part of the customers. **** ( this is what has made ​​the fortune of LSM, who has made ​​detailed models but poor quality).

Once again, I repeat : whenever Marklin wanted to be like the others, they were wrong and they had problems!
If Marklin does not react quickly they will regret some of their choices...

**** helped by journalits from MRR magazines with their close up photos..RollEyes .
Offline RayF  
#8 Posted : 20 January 2014 14:52:39(UTC)
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Small companies can afford the luxury of only producing high specification products. Producers of complete systems like Marklin need to be more aware of the bottom line, and have to appeal to all customers, not just those with money to burn.
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
Offline river6109  
#9 Posted : 20 January 2014 16:09:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Small companies can afford the luxury of only producing high specification products. Producers of complete systems like Marklin need to be more aware of the bottom line, and have to appeal to all customers, not just those with money to burn.


Ray, I don't agree with your assumption, larger companies can much easier absorb overheads and production costs than smaller companies.

for instance a BR 151 from ESU will set you back € 429.00 (RRP) and with this price people will decide which brand name they will choose and time will tell and ESU hasn't sofar stopped producing more models.

bigger companies may loose their focus point why they are in business and to go back to their core business they know best



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Offline Goofy  
#10 Posted : 20 January 2014 18:17:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Go to Quoted Post
Hi

From stummi forum

BR 261 "Gravita 10BB":
Als Top-Neuheit für das Jahr 2014 dürfen wir Ihnen ein H0-Modell der neuen DB Rangierdiesellok BR 261 "Gravita" vorstellen. Im Gegensatz zu anderen Anbietern ist das ESU-Modell weitgehend aus Metall gefertigt und glänzt mit einer hohen Detaillierung wie geätzten Geländern, warmweissen LEDs mit korrekter Fernlichtbeschaltung und einer Kurz-Kupplungs-Kinematik. Zudem wird die Lok neben einem Rauchgenerator einen LokSound V4.0 M4 Decoder mit grossem Lautsprecher zwei neu konstruierte, funktionsfähige Digitalkupplungen erhalten. Angetrieben wird sie von einem Glockenankermotor. In Verbindung mit den Kurven- und Weichensensoren wird diese Lok ein Rangiererlebnis auf Epoche VI Anlagen. ESU wird die Lok in zunächst 5 Farbvarianten ausliefern.

BR 245 "Traxx ME":
Eine weitere Formneuheit ist die neue Dieselelektrische BR 245 "Traxx ME", welche im Vorbild die 218 beerben wird. Auch bei dieser Lok setzt ESU als einziger Anbieter auf ein Vollmetallgehäuse mit aufwendiger Gravur. Die Traxx wird zudem ab Werk eine Doppelraucheinheit erhalten. Unter den separat eingesetzten Dachlüftergittern werden die Lüfter erstmalig motorisch angetrieben. Selbstverständlich wird auch die BR 245 alle Funktionen der Engineering Edition wie LokSound V4.0 M4 Decoder mit Doppel-Lautsprecher, Kurven- und Weichensensor, PowerPack, umfangreiche Beleuchtung mit Führerpult und Fernlicht uvm. haben. Freuen Sie sich mit uns auch auf den ganz speziellen Klang dieser innovativen Lok!

EHG 388:
Neuland betritt ESU mit dem H0-Modell des Einheitshilfsgerätewagens EHG388. Wir stellen damit nicht nur unser erstes, hoch detalliertes Wagenmodell vor, sondern haben den Waggon mit einer umfangreichen Meßelektronik ausgestattet. Der Modellbahner kann damit die Geschwindigkeit und den zurückgelegten Weg seiner Loks messen und direkt auf dem LCD-Display anzeigen lassen. Der Waggon wird in 3 Ausführungen für die Epoche III in grün, die Epoche IV in gelb und die Epoche VI in rot erhältlich sein.

Two new locomotive, the same moldel like BRAWA but in metall!!!
A messwagen with LCD with speed, km, etc..

on 29.01.2014 the photos and more news...


An interested notice...power pack for 2 and 3 rail!
Also notice Gravita arrives with Faulhaber motor!
This is how to present details Märklin! Flapper

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Offline Marius in Africa  
#11 Posted : 20 January 2014 18:33:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Small companies can afford the luxury of only producing high specification products. Producers of complete systems like Marklin need to be more aware of the bottom line, and have to appeal to all customers, not just those with money to burn.


Brawa Gravita BR 261 MRCE (p/n 42761), AC digital EXTRA - RRP Euro 379-90
ESU Gravita BR 261 MRCE (p/n 31151), AC/DC - RRP Euro 399-90 (in mostly metal construction)

Burning money, really? Looking at my ESU Class 77 loco, I know better!

Regards
Marius

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HO, ECoS 2, Märklin C-track, any country, any design, any era & any brand which i like.
Offline RayF  
#12 Posted : 20 January 2014 18:52:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Marius in Africa Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Small companies can afford the luxury of only producing high specification products. Producers of complete systems like Marklin need to be more aware of the bottom line, and have to appeal to all customers, not just those with money to burn.


Brawa Gravita BR 261 MRCE (p/n 42761), AC digital EXTRA - RRP Euro 379-90
ESU Gravita BR 261 MRCE (p/n 31151), AC/DC - RRP Euro 399-90 (in mostly metal construction)

Burning money, really? Looking at my ESU Class 77 loco, I know better!

Regards
Marius



For 400€ you can get a Marklin steamer with full sound. No matter how good it is, a diesel shunter should be much cheaper than a Steam tender locomotive.

I think that ESU and Brawa are both expensive. How about comparing with Marklin, Roco and Fleischmann?
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
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Offline RayF  
#13 Posted : 20 January 2014 18:56:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Small companies can afford the luxury of only producing high specification products. Producers of complete systems like Marklin need to be more aware of the bottom line, and have to appeal to all customers, not just those with money to burn.


Ray, I don't agree with your assumption, larger companies can much easier absorb overheads and production costs than smaller companies.

for instance a BR 151 from ESU will set you back € 429.00 (RRP) and with this price people will decide which brand name they will choose and time will tell and ESU hasn't sofar stopped producing more models.

bigger companies may loose their focus point why they are in business and to go back to their core business they know best



John



John,

You're not looking at this from the point of view of the average train enthusiast. These small companies have a small workforce concentrating on expensive and exclusive models. Trying to compete with this is what got Marklin bankrupt.

Marklin need to keep in mind that they have to appeal to young people and those with less income, as well as producing some nicer models for the collectors.
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
Offline RayF  
#14 Posted : 20 January 2014 19:16:25(UTC)
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Looking at my last couple of posts, I seem to be going off topic. It wasn't my intention to hijack this thread, sorry!

I've made my point, so I'll leave you guys to discuss the merits of the new ESU locos, which I'm sure will be very nice! ThumpUp
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Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
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Offline Webmaster  
#15 Posted : 20 January 2014 19:17:50(UTC)
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ESU can focus on a few models for the "high-end" that incorporate their latest electronics for "showcase" reasons without any real profit on these models since their "bread & butter" is their electronics to other manufacturers and also the "aftermarket" to all model railroaders...

It is great that they can afford to have these examples of "how things should be". However - I don't think they make any profit on it other than advertising their "usual" products .
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Offline jeehring  
#16 Posted : 20 January 2014 19:24:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Small companies can afford the luxury of only producing high specification products. Producers of complete systems like Marklin need to be more aware of the bottom line, and have to appeal to all customers, not just those with money to burn.


Ray,

One must admit that most Diesel & Electric with single body ( Google Gave me = "unibody"...?) actually produced by Marklin are sold between 230 & 320 E. A majority even are frankly below 300 E. While the same type of single body electric/Diesels made by ESU are sold over 400 E.... Manufacturing single body electric/Diesel is cheaper than for steamers. ESU produces only Diesel or electrical machines.

That is why I wonder if the current policy of Marklin is not to create a uniform standard for the best price in the intention of later developing a new range with a more sophisticated standard that should be purchased 25/30/35% more expensive.
Remember Marklin Delta VS Marklin Digital ...
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Offline RayF  
#17 Posted : 20 January 2014 20:55:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jeehring Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Small companies can afford the luxury of only producing high specification products. Producers of complete systems like Marklin need to be more aware of the bottom line, and have to appeal to all customers, not just those with money to burn.


Ray,

One must admit that most Diesel & Electric with single body ( Google Gave me = "unibody"...?) actually produced by Marklin are sold between 230 & 320 E. A majority even are frankly below 300 E. While the same type of single body electric/Diesels made by ESU are sold over 400 E.... Manufacturing single body electric/Diesel is cheaper than for steamers. ESU produces only Diesel or electrical machines.

That is why I wonder if the current policy of Marklin is not to create a uniform standard for the best price in the intention of later developing a new range with a more sophisticated standard that should be purchased 25/30/35% more expensive.
Remember Marklin Delta VS Marklin Digital ...


Good theory. I think you might be right.
Ray
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Offline vilithejou  
#18 Posted : 29 January 2014 07:44:36(UTC)
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Offline H0  
#19 Posted : 29 January 2014 09:15:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Small companies can afford the luxury of only producing high specification products. Producers of complete systems like Marklin need to be more aware of the bottom line, and have to appeal to all customers, not just those with money to burn.
ESU now offer the V 200 with metal body for almost exactly the same price as Märklin's V 200 with SDS (ESU € 399,00, Märklin € 399.95). Märklin's V 200 had a sophisticated motor (SDS), ESU's V 200 has sophisticated light functions and smoke generators.

The ESU locomotives are a demonstration of the capabilities of modern decoders.
Some of the ESU moulds are a co-operation with Liliput and plain vanilla variations of those moulds without sophisticated light and sound functions and without smoke generator are available from Liliput.

The full length version of the Blue Star Train is € 1550, the new Santa Fe Super Chief is € 1200. High specification products at solid prices ...

The early bird catches the worm. BR 187, BR 193 and Gravita have been announced this year - but not from Märklin.

Small companies have to search their niche markets. And Märklin leaves many niches for them.
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Offline Goofy  
#20 Posted : 29 January 2014 09:26:31(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post

ESU now offer the V 200 with metal body for almost exactly the same price as Märklin's V 200 with SDS (ESU € 399,00, Märklin € 399.95). Märklin's V 200 had a sophisticated motor (SDS), ESU's V 200 has sophisticated light functions and smoke generators.


ESU has 5 pole motor with double flywheels in the V200.
I compare this equal as SDS.
Ohhh...by the way SDS is not produced any more time from Märklin.
If Märklin produce V200 again,they will put back 5 pole DCM motor.

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Offline jeehring  
#21 Posted : 29 January 2014 11:11:24(UTC)
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....strange new ESU Mobile Station to be used with Ecos : in fact to replace the obsolete Ecos Radio.....(yes,IMO Ecos radio rapidly became obsolete...). With a big rotating knob, it's a piece of "non-Z1"..
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#22 Posted : 29 January 2014 14:47:30(UTC)
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I'm still waiting for stuff announced in 2013. Like the 54680 Railcom transmitter for those lokos (old FX sinus drive and multi speaker triebwagen-VT11.5 and multi motor V188) that I can not convert to V4 ESU decoders.

The new wireless transmitter looks darn fine though!
Matt
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But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
Offline Goofy  
#23 Posted : 29 January 2014 20:49:14(UTC)
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One notice:
Turnouts decoder switch pilot is now upgrade to version 2.0!! ThumpUp
Also with switch pilot servo.
And i was so closed to by the old version...but didn´t!
Phewww...
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#24 Posted : 29 January 2014 20:59:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jeehring Go to Quoted Post
....strange new ESU Mobile Station to be used with Ecos....


Originally Posted by: biedmatt Go to Quoted Post
The new wireless transmitter looks darn fine though!


It's a wireless remote, not a transmitter, but yes it does look an improvement over the EcosRadio. However, I would have thought ESU would be better served by producing an app that runs on ithingy / Android tablets for remote control purposes, and providing a way that 2 Ecos' could be connected together in a master / slave configuration the way Marklin has done with the CS2.
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#25 Posted : 29 January 2014 22:09:28(UTC)
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I've got the TouchCab app for my iPhone, but the throttle control on a touch screen is not the finest. If you want to throttle down to a craw, it's difficult to get that finite control. This tactile throttle on the remote will be nice.
Matt
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But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
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#26 Posted : 29 January 2014 22:48:36(UTC)
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Agreed Matt, I find it is all too easy to inadvertently set the throttle to maximum on a touch screen, just by slightly bumping it. It happened once with some 1 Gauge trains, you don't want those rear ending each other! Scared
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Offline Goofy  
#27 Posted : 08 February 2014 09:31:20(UTC)
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If i get ESU MS2,i must have Ecos to connect remote MS2...?
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#28 Posted : 08 February 2014 09:37:00(UTC)
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If i get ESU MS2,i must have Ecos to connect remote MS2...?


Goofy, the ESU Mobile Control 2 is an Android device, and as such it can run other Android apps. This means it will run RemoteCS2 or the Marklin Main Station / Mobile Station Android apps, which means you could use it with your CS2.
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Offline river6109  
#29 Posted : 08 February 2014 10:54:05(UTC)
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Dave, I found it very hard to control the speed with my radio control and many times I had to press the stop button to avoid a disaster, so yes I'll be looking at the new one and for another reason in case one goes kaputt.



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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#30 Posted : 08 February 2014 11:34:33(UTC)
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They ain't cheap John - Lokshop price inc VAT is 270 euro. But then, buying an android device isn't cheap either, and this one comes with a nice large control knob.
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#31 Posted : 08 February 2014 13:34:30(UTC)
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Dave, John,

A good Marklinist friend of mine in Sydney, who has two Ecos' controlling his large layout and the original ESU handcontroller which I know the Wgtn 1 Guage guys have a few of Dave , Wink , also has the "Control Radio".
When I was last there (2012) he stated that Touch Cab was a far better thing he thought because it displays the function symbols. No amount of changing IP addresses would let me infiltrate his system tho Sad Wink .He also had had trouble with the Joystick throttle.
The receiver cards that come with the ESU devices can be put into a CS1-R btw. Including the base mounted one that came with some of the original hand controllers. You just have to pull the base apart and get the card out !
Norm said that in both cases he had to file the edges of the said PC cards to fit neatly into his Ecos'

So this new Hand Control looks like a good thing but does it only connect via a router to the ECos/CS
Glen
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Offline Marius in Africa  
#32 Posted : 08 February 2014 19:19:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NZMarklinist Go to Quoted Post
So this new Hand Control looks like a good thing but does it only connect via a router to the ECos/CS


Hi Glen

Thus the ECoS have to be connected to the router via RJ45 cable?

Regards

Marius in Africa

HO, ECoS 2, Märklin C-track, any country, any design, any era & any brand which i like.
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